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If share price drops to 0.9 cent, hardly anyone will subscribe to the rights.

The company can still try to offer rights at 0.9 cent (when share price is 0.9 cent) and some idiots/big supporters might subscribe for it, but there will NOT be any dilutive effect as every new share issued is backed by 0.9 cent cash.

if share price drops to 0.8 cent, just buy from the market at a cheaper price than the rights.

TigTig ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 20:29) Posted:

So if one buys at 0.009 and take the rights, effectively he is paying 1.8 cents per share.
If you buy at higher price, it just means you pay more per share. It' s still below the NAV, but the real issue is will money be made from the investment?
Seriously, I think this company do need our attention.

Uppermost in my mind is the existing business, how is it going? The oil reserves are going to give how much profit to the co, say at US 50? Are they running out, or have many years of life?
I don' t have a good feel at all, need to do some more checks. The oil is the backstop. I don' t know about the success of the new business, it could end up the garden path looking at Tarzan.

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I meant current shareholders would not subscribe to the rights. Simple.

dav781 ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 14:39) Posted:

Then who will buy the rights? How would it be dilutive if no one buys?

The company can withdraw the rights issue and there are previous examples.

Shifu8888 ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 14:34) Posted:

High chance of impasse nil paid rights scenario:

No bids
Huge volume to sell at 0.001

Hence this rights to shareholder is totally useless but very dilutive.

All the best to those who continue to believe.

I hope I am wrong. Sorry to see lots of people stucked.

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I am in the queue to snap up more at 1 cent. Contra players cannot hold. Too bad :-)

ifallgoeswell ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 14:32) Posted:

sad to say it seems like an eventuality... congrats those who manage to snap up at these prices

gravity8888 ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 13:28) Posted:

Hurrah 1 cts liao

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Then who will buy the rights? How would it be dilutive if no one buys?

The company can withdraw the rights issue and there are previous examples.

Shifu8888 ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 14:34) Posted:

High chance of impasse nil paid rights scenario:

No bids
Huge volume to sell at 0.001

Hence this rights to shareholder is totally useless but very dilutive.

All the best to those who continue to believe.

I hope I am wrong. Sorry to see lots of people stucked.

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The company should just withdraw the rights issue.

SSHs and normal shareholders like me are not gaining from this. Only the management is gaining from this -- they have more money to invest/play/pay themselves. We should go EGM and shoot down this rights issue!!!

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Can renounce. But u lose out when u don' t subscribe.

ifallgoeswell ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 09:52) Posted:

No money or don't wanna subscribe is fine, these are renounceable rights aren't they.

dav781 ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 09:49) Posted:

Yes. Contra players. And those without extra money to pay for the rights

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Yes. Contra players. And those without extra money to pay for the rights.

vivacious ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 09:47) Posted:

ya. Give this bugger a few more days to settle..

ifallgoeswell ( Date: 06-Oct-2017 09:44) Posted:

Not wise to play contra during this period man

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You are right to say that we do not know how low they would dump. But how much lower do u think they can dump Loyz, looking at current share price? They will lose much more than me by dumping. And by now, contra players should be avoiding Loyz and even if they want to dump and pump, they are likely to be playing mostly with their own money.

Anyway, we shall let Loyz' s future share price speak for itself.

Shifu8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 22:57) Posted:

Hi buddy, I am not a quarrelsome type. I enjoy differing views. I bought shares to attend agm sometimes. 10 lots also can attend. Low can be lower. Not that it?s oversold but there are some more shares in hostile hands and we don?t know how Low they will dump.

Next, I read that someone started calling yuuzoo boss: Tarzan. Also name calling. Why lambasted me? Funny.. unless it?s related party here..... About ego? Nope I don?t name a company name after my initial and hence ego is not impt to me.

Don?t trade with sentiments, trade with rational. Invest with prudence, profit with pride. All the best. Night.

dav781 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 22:18) Posted:

I am not out to quarrel with you.

No one would buy just to attend EGM. You want to buy because you know very well that at current share price, Loyz is a very attractive proposition.

We both know that Loyz is not really a good company, but there is price for every company at every situation. I think Loyz is oversold and somehow I think u would agree :-

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I am not out to quarrel with you.

No one would buy just to attend EGM. You want to buy because you know very well that at current share price, Loyz is a very attractive proposition.

We both know that Loyz is not really a good company, but there is price for every company at every situation. I think Loyz is oversold and somehow I think u would agree :-)

Shifu8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 22:05) Posted:

What?s your view of awarding 10m shares to a key executive? Not my concern anyway. I have said enough. Needs no repetition of their cash balance....and composition of nav.... after last results announcement when they trumpeted in their profit, I stated the company would be running out of cash soon and expect some fund raising. What name should I give to the boss when he trumpeted and then did an equity exercise? Also the proceeds used for? Expansion? Or something positive? Isn?t the name calling befitting? Be objective. Perhaps there are so many people start and want music. Sorry no music. Anyway, I am not vested but may buy some to join their egm to see the circus. See u there.

ifallgoeswell ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 19:34) Posted:

Many of your comments here these days are just full of mockery, making fun of people's name and unconstructive. Pls have some courtesy and not become like some of the other trolls around. Take care of your ego bro, don't let it consume you

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Every single indicator says that Loyz is oversold.

https://thewallstreetreview.com/loyz-energy-limited-594-si-seeing-increased-volatility-in-session/

I am very open about the fact that I am vested, @1.1/1.2 cents, which I still think is cheap. Based on fundamentals, Loyz is cheap under 2 cents. And I shared my reasons -- pls look at my previous posts. For those people talking it down, I hope to understand your reasons too. Hopefully, you are not talking this share down so that you can buy on the cheap :-) Most importantly, don' t be greedy, this share would not drop below 1 cent, based on current info.

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I am rather suprised that you are so doubtful about Loyz, its NAV and its SSHs dumping, and yet rather bullish about Yuuzoo, whose NAV is even more doubtful and has an even higher risk of shares being dumped, i.e. by its debtors (who lend Yuuzoo $$$ for shares)

Anyway, each of us has our own views. All the best!

Shifu8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 15:13) Posted:

You will be surprised. Rex still has quite a lot of shares. They may dump.

gravity8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 15:09) Posted:

Hahah I am waiting but seems to not going to happend

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I love your way of explanation. Indeed enlightening.

Shifu8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 10:17) Posted:

No need. Go do the homework yourself. One hint: they just made huge huge huge profit right? The profit numbers are cash accretive? What basis was the profit booked in? I don?t want to waste time here. I had said enough from previous posting. Look, nav low today doesn?t mean it cannot be built up tmr. And nav appears to be high today, does not mean it cannot be wiped out tmr. Don?t cry if latter happens. All the best.

dav781 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 10:08) Posted:

Can you back up your claim that a huge chunk of its NAV is hollow

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Can you back up your claim that a huge chunk of its NAV is hollow?

Shifu8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 09:52) Posted:

Though namesake, we are alike and deduction also same. The rights will be huge impasse like the ones for blumont. Note: blumont nav used to be huge and look at it now. Loyz will have huge write down, my analysis. Huge chunk in the nav is hollow. Dyoddsss. It should long be buried alive. The whole board lacks management expertise and should just change their job to stock brokers. 不要再害人 . Someone?s needs to report to CAD. Some brave souls needed. Allthe best.

gravity8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 09:38) Posted:

Buy below 1 cts

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I will show hand if this hits below 1 cent :-)

gravity8888 ( Date: 05-Oct-2017 09:38) Posted:

Buy below 1 cts

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We talk about BBs, TAs and many other factors. Let' s go back to fundamentals.

1. Even with 2 recent placements, to pay off Carnarvon and invest in a new JV, NAV per share is still worth around US 2.8 cents (SG 3.8 cents).

2. Loyz is still making money, though it might not be a lot as the production of its Thailand oilfield is reducing.

3. No near term debt problems, like Noble.

4. Even if we think the book of Loyz is overstated (I agree on this too), and we give it 50% discount, Loyz is still worth 1.9 cents per share.

5. Oil price, while trending down this week, is holding up well in general and should stay above USD$50 per barrel in the medium term.

6. In order for the rights issue to work and not for new significant shareholders to be unhappy (they " entered" at 1.6 cents and 1.3 respectively), current SSHs of the company have to do something.

7. While the usual volume transacted for Loyz seems big, it is actually only a small
company. Extremely easy for a BB or SSH to turn things around.

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If nothing to gain, no one will take up the rights. Might as well buy from open market.

Shifu8888 ( Date: 04-Oct-2017 13:17) Posted:

Reiterate CR 0.9/1. BB will not let u earn free rights ride
XR 0.5 cos objective of sucking from retailers achieved. For what they support Price. Of cos price is never a one way straight line. It will be achieved.

This stock should Long be like rpg.

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Everyone has to do their homework. I am vested and I am not hiding this fact. However, when I comment, it is based on facts and statistics. It is for everyone who read my posts to decide if I am biased or overstated.

1. Loyz has always owned only 20 percent of the Thai oil field. No change at all. Its results over the past 2 years were based on this 20 percent ownership. Now, it is merely venturing into a new business as O& G is unreliable and unpredictable. They did not say they are exiting the oil business.

2. I never bother to consider if loyz is a bad or good company. Or the management is good or not. I look at fundamentals and for every company, there is a price worth entering. The only companies I would avoid are those with the risk of going into receivership, like Noble.

3. I am not looking for a significant trend reversal or predicting the sky for Loyz. However, I am confident that it should be worth at least 1.5 cents based on current info available to all.

Some people like to talk down a share so that they can buy on the cheap. We must watch out for these people too :-)

Thinkvest ( Date: 03-Oct-2017 18:38) Posted:

Loyz O&G stake is now 20% https://www.theedgesingapore.com/loyz-energy-diversify-fund-management-trading-og-assets-shrink

Thinkvest ( Date: 03-Oct-2017 18:33) Posted:

Historically when ppl are trying to make rational analysis with evidence some ppl who are punters will push them with their bullish sentiments and comments which have a complete absence of logic, thats why some stocks which have a continuous downward slope chart formations manage to get new set of buyers at low points, these punters are temp figures who disappear once the stock plunges further. For loyz a small jump is quite possible but in a long run will it rise?When was the last time it had a significant trend reversal? Also the big question is will Loyz continue in the Oil business, correct me if wrong i think they have decided to not continue with Oil business and plan to move into a new line of business.

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I never doubted Loyz' s NAV is overstated. But at 1.2 cents, its share price is less than 1/3 its NAV per share. That' s the key point here. For every share, there is a share price worth entering. I don' t care whether the company is good or bad.

Shifu8888 ( Date: 03-Oct-2017 17:57) Posted:

Who warned it would crashed through 0.015 when it was 0.02? Lol. All the best. If u make money, I will be happy for u. No problems. Good luck. I stop my objective comments here. Last advice, go do your dd on what comprise their NAV. You will be very worried if u find out.

bernardc ( Date: 03-Oct-2017 16:46) Posted:

rubbish analysis..
one moment say safe buy at 9/10 price..
nextline say will crash to 5 on xr..
just rubbish...
twisted logic indeed

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As expected, strong demand at 1.1 cents to 0.9 cents. I expect this bugger to break 1.2 cents tomorrow and close at 1.3 cents. My gut feel :-)

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Information is updated as of Tue, October 03, 2017 at 05:24:05 PM

Last	Chng	Vol(K)	High	Low
0.012	0.000	14,152.9	0.012	0.011

Bid	Bid Vol	Ask	Ask Vol
0.011	25,925.8	0.012	6,809
0.010	26,394	0.013	9,608
0.009	22,382	0.014	19,204.8
0.008	16,990	0.015	8,634.3
0.007	2,121	0.016	8,289.7
0.006	120	0.017	3,050
0.005	650	0.018	1,710
0.004	180	0.019	460.1
0.003	200	0.020	1,450
0.002	1,499	0.021	2,100
0.001	1,000	0.022	210
--	--	0.023	2,050
--	--	0.024	2,215
--	--	0.025	2,375
--	--	0.026	3,450
--	--	0.027	900
--	--	0.028	250
--	--	0.030	320
--	--	0.031	160
--	--	0.032	350

*Showing up to 20 levels.

dav781 ( Date: 03-Oct-2017 17:18) Posted:

Aiyo. Let' s not say nasty things over Loyz. For the questions many of you raised, just go and look at the previous statements and announcements by the company and you will get a better picture. Let me answer a few:

1. The company was trading at 1.2 cents/1.3 cents last year when total outstanding shares than was less than one billion. This is right. But do you know why they issued more shares? To pay down its debts so that its balance sheet is much stronger now. Thus, last year, it had more debts but less shares outstanding. This year, it has less debts but more shares outstanding. All things being equal, you cannot say that its situation now is worse off than last year. And do you know what happened when was its share price was trading at 1.2 cents/1.3 cents last year? Oil price plunged. What is the oil price now?

2. Why 40% of rights issue need to be for working capital and operating expenses? Because its Thailand oil field need $$$ to explore more oil wells, so that future oil production can be higher. I agree that the company is low on cash now.

3. I agree that Loyz is small company and the total number of shares traded every day is not significant, in terms of $$$. I also agree that it is controlled by BBs or SSHs. That is why I am confident that this bugger will not drop below 1.1 cents, as the BBs and SSHs can easily step in. They need the rights issue to work in order to raise more money. If not, they will have to cancel the rights issue, which will lead to higher share price too.

My views :-)

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Aiyo. Let' s not say nasty things over Loyz. For the questions many of you raised, just go and look at the previous statements and announcements by the company and you will get a better picture. Let me answer a few:

1. The company was trading at 1.2 cents/1.3 cents last year when total outstanding shares than was less than one billion. This is right. But do you know why they issued more shares? To pay down its debts so that its balance sheet is much stronger now. Thus, last year, it had more debts but less shares outstanding. This year, it has less debts but more shares outstanding. All things being equal, you cannot say that its situation now is worse off than last year. And do you know what happened when was its share price was trading at 1.2 cents/1.3 cents last year? Oil price plunged. What is the oil price now?

2. Why 40% of rights issue need to be for working capital and operating expenses? Because its Thailand oil field need $$$ to explore more oil wells, so that future oil production can be higher. I agree that the company is low on cash now.

3. I agree that Loyz is small company and the total number of shares traded every day is not significant, in terms of $$$. I also agree that it is controlled by BBs or SSHs. That is why I am confident that this bugger will not drop below 1.1 cents, as the BBs and SSHs can easily step in. They need the rights issue to work in order to raise more money. If not, they will have to cancel the rights issue, which will lead to higher share price too.

My views :-)