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better
    26-Sep-2020 17:48  
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Dear " TA Exper" , please enlighen us why do you say that SMM is a gambling chip? Isn' t all stock investment a gamble in a certain way? Couldn' t all stocks technically go to zero? 

Could you also let us know whether you are currently short, long or have no position in SMM so we take the lead from you?
 
 
TA_Expert
    26-Sep-2020 16:49  
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You don' t have to worry for others. From the threads, you can clearly see that there are still supporters / buyers despite that the ship is sinking.

SMM has become a gambling chip. Either you take all when Temasek privatise it higher than $0.20 or you lose all when it lets it bankcrupt or delist at $0.10.

RyantNg      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 16:39) Posted:

Going down below 10 ct.

Problematic counter , stay away.

 
 
RyantNg
    26-Sep-2020 16:39  
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Going down below 10 ct.

Problematic counter , stay away.
 

 
desmodeus
    26-Sep-2020 16:36  
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His average holding costs drastically reduced by virtue of his SCI entitlements. Go check SGX company announcement. He has option whatever TH decides to do which including privatisation. TH has no obligation to privatise at expensive valuation😏

better      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 16:01) Posted:

SMM' s CEO Wong Weng Sum bought $3.7 mil worth of SMM shares through the rights issue at $0.20/-

It is unlikely that he and the rest of the directors do not want to buy more at current price. All the directors subsribe to their full rights entitlement at $0.20, therefore it would be reasonabe to assume that they would want to buy even more at current lower prices, knowing what they know.

The only possible explanation is that they can' t buy. Because if SMM is going to announce some positive news soon and they buy now, they would be accused/ charged for insider trading. The same can be said about any Temasek action.

Glad that I am in the position to buy more....


 

 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 16:23  
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Not 20% he took 50% cut

better      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 16:18) Posted:

Dear  " des_khor" , actually Wong Weng Sum do have a choice not to subsribe fully to the rights. His basic pay is only $600k and recently took a 20% voluntary pay cut. To commit $3.7 mil to secure a $600k rice bowl is very costly indeed. Don' t you think so?
 

 
 
better
    26-Sep-2020 16:22  
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Unless he thinks that his procelain rice bowl is going to be upgraded to a golden rice bowl soon.
 

 
better
    26-Sep-2020 16:18  
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Dear  " des_khor" , actually Wong Weng Sum do have a choice not to subsribe fully to the rights. His basic pay is only $600k and recently took a 20% voluntary pay cut. To commit $3.7 mil to secure a $600k rice bowl is very costly indeed. Don' t you think so?
 
 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 16:14  
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Yeah without this sete brasil saga... scm might still be above $5 And order book above $5 billion
 
 
better
    26-Sep-2020 16:10  
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Thanks " Danger" for highlighting the Sete Brasil drill ships saga. Just went to have a closer look at the news and announcements surrounding it.

Seems that SMM is close to finding a buyer for the 2 almost completed drill ships. Likely a " $300 mil extraordinary gain" event when the deal is done.
 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 16:07  
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Denmark on Friday launched the tendering process for what will be its largest offshore wind farm - Thor. Thor will have a capacity of 800-1000 MW when it is fully installed and connected to the grid, which is expected to happen by 2027, at the latest The deadline for application for prequalification is no later than December 1, 2020, and potential bidders will in the period from October 1 to November 16, 2020, be able to ask questions in writing to the Danish Energy Agency about the tender.  The final tender deadline for the tender is expected to be November 8, 2021.   Thor is the first of the three offshore wind farms agreed to be established in the Danish Energy Agreement from 2018.  The total investment costs for Thor are estimated at a total of DKK 15.5 billion (USD 2,4 billion).

danger      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 16:01) Posted:

So hopefully in Q1 2021 ... another $1 billion from UK WINDFARM... and some leads for the Danish windfarm worth a few billions euro

danger      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 14:30) Posted:

Gross orderbook of existing contracts is $6.5 billion. Net order book as at end June 2020 stood at $1.91 billion. ❖ Including Repairs & Upgrades outstanding orders for execution of $280 million, net orderbook is $2.2 billion


 

 
des_khor
    26-Sep-2020 16:03  
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They got no choice to buy the rights and thus is their rice bowl .

better      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 16:01) Posted:

SMM' s CEO Wong Weng Sum bought $3.7 mil worth of SMM shares through the rights issue at $0.20/-

It is unlikely that he and the rest of the directors do not want to buy more at current price. All the directors subsribe to their full rights entitlement at $0.20, therefore it would be reasonabe to assume that they would want to buy even more at current lower prices, knowing what they know.

The only possible explanation is that they can' t buy. Because if SMM is going to announce some positive news soon and they buy now, they would be accused/ charged for insider trading. The same can be said about any Temasek action.

Glad that I am in the position to buy more....


 

 
 
better
    26-Sep-2020 16:01  
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SMM' s CEO Wong Weng Sum bought $3.7 mil worth of SMM shares through the rights issue at $0.20/-

It is unlikely that he and the rest of the directors do not want to buy more at current price. All the directors subsribe to their full rights entitlement at $0.20, therefore it would be reasonabe to assume that they would want to buy even more at current lower prices, knowing what they know.

The only possible explanation is that they can' t buy. Because if SMM is going to announce some positive news soon and they buy now, they would be accused/ charged for insider trading. The same can be said about any Temasek action.

Glad that I am in the position to buy more....


 
 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 16:01  
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So hopefully in Q1 2021 ... another $1 billion from UK WINDFARM... and some leads for the Danish windfarm worth a few billions euro

danger      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 14:30) Posted:

Gross orderbook of existing contracts is $6.5 billion. Net order book as at end June 2020 stood at $1.91 billion. ❖ Including Repairs & Upgrades outstanding orders for execution of $280 million, net orderbook is $2.2 billion.

danger      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 14:24) Posted:

I think it has to do with the suspended order for sete brasil drillships worth 5billio


 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 15:58  
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So the higher crude oil price the higher the urge for oil explorations and drillings to go fullsteam ahead
 
 
Peter88
    26-Sep-2020 15:25  
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Like that no so bad , may end up as extra ordinary gains if new buyersbuy over the rigs ?

danger      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 15:01) Posted:

Semcorp Marine said its seven rig contracts with Sete Brazil subsidiaries worth a total US$5.6 billion Sembcorp Marine received a total of $2.7 billion in progress payments for the rigs before payments stopped in November 2014. For five of the seven rigs, Sembcorp Marine will keep all works performed. The remaining two have made the most construction progress, and will be split between Sembcorp and Sete Brasil in proportion to payments already made by Sete Brasil. Sete Brasil has identified a buyer for its units that own the two drillships. The buyer is expected to negotiate with Sembcorp to enter new contracts to complete the drillships. So if new buyers or sete brasil can take over the 5 remaining drillships Then huat else pending few billions in shipyards..hanta kaki

 

 
ADS2200
    26-Sep-2020 15:19  
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pre-demerger
sci has ~ 61% of scm
sci public shareholders 50.7% and temasek 49.3%.
based on your 50% is probably about 1.65 - 2.2b shares
the vol of scm sold probably is touching 1.65b.

better if your assumption is correct, it would be better to hold on to the " bonus scm shares" .
certainly nobody knows when scm will bottom. don' t forget scm is labelled as hot stock, and law of diminishing returns will make the sell down more tailored.  anyway it will find its level soon
thanks for all the sharing. 

enjoy with family. relax and recreate. 


 

better      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 12:52) Posted:

The SCI retail shareholders received about 4.4 billion of SMM shares. Assuming half of them wanted to sell, the potential supply would amount to about 2.2 billion shares (18+% of SMM).

I speculate that this selling wave would continue til the second half of October when SMM is scheduled to give their 3rd Quarter biz update.

Personally, I hope that SMM can stay below 15 cents til then so I could accumulate more at favourable prices.

The breakdown of SMM ownership
Temasek- 42.6%
Formerly SMM minority shareholders- 19+% (unlikely to sell as their mother shares and rights shares are acquired at much higher prices than current)
SCI shareholders beside Temasek- 37+%


 

 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 15:01  
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Semcorp Marine said its seven rig contracts with Sete Brazil subsidiaries worth a total US$5.6 billion Sembcorp Marine received a total of $2.7 billion in progress payments for the rigs before payments stopped in November 2014. For five of the seven rigs, Sembcorp Marine will keep all works performed. The remaining two have made the most construction progress, and will be split between Sembcorp and Sete Brasil in proportion to payments already made by Sete Brasil. Sete Brasil has identified a buyer for its units that own the two drillships. The buyer is expected to negotiate with Sembcorp to enter new contracts to complete the drillships. So if new buyers or sete brasil can take over the 5 remaining drillships Then huat else pending few billions in shipyards..hanta kaki
 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 14:30  
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Gross orderbook of existing contracts is $6.5 billion. Net order book as at end June 2020 stood at $1.91 billion. ❖ Including Repairs & Upgrades outstanding orders for execution of $280 million, net orderbook is $2.2 billion.

danger      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 14:24) Posted:

I think it has to do with the suspended order for sete brasil drillships worth 5billion

Peter88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 14:08) Posted:

Hi danger , 

' ' ' ' Gross orderbook of existing contracts is $6.5 billion. Net order book as at end June 2020 stood at $1.91 billion.' ' ' '  

What is the difference between Gross orderbook of existing and net order book , why the different figures ? Please help to enlighten , thanks.


 
 
danger
    26-Sep-2020 14:24  
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I think it has to do with the suspended order for sete brasil drillships worth 5billion

Peter88      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 14:08) Posted:

Hi danger , 

' ' ' ' Gross orderbook of existing contracts is $6.5 billion. Net order book as at end June 2020 stood at $1.91 billion.' ' ' '  

What is the difference between Gross orderbook of existing and net order book , why the different figures ? Please help to enlighten , thanks.


danger      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 12:20) Posted:

Comes with : Gross orderbook of existing contracts is $6.5 billion. Net order book as at end June 2020 stood at $1.91 billion. More than current 1.8b market ca


 
 
Stocky901
    26-Sep-2020 14:12  
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Jialat elite teo suan liao.. next time don't anyhow blow ah.. but the 20c Rights issue really a joke.

jlong0005      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 10:54) Posted:

U are just talking nonsense. Suck kind of words should not come from an Elite trader like your goodself. Suggest you drop the Elite status. How can sembmarine become a blank sheet of paper. How can they call another rights after the big exercise. You think TH can allow SCM to become a blank sheet? Think before you made such comments. I own SCM shares from the spin off.

uiop1223      ( Date: 26-Sep-2020 07:21) Posted:

Soon u will holding blank sheets of paper. Worthless.

Worst still, call for another rights issue and ask u to pump more mone


 
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