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Hector
    26-Nov-2021 09:56  
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think this is what i mean from my post yesterday
There is highly chance for RS to gap up than going down further
Now without MCO, US and Europe countries to buy back Malaysia gloves rather than China gloves due to quality and effectively
RS has clean gloves, so have extra competitve advantage
Profit may not be peak, but it is still very profitable moving forward compared with other company with such high PE
Good chance to invest from this low level, but I maybe wrong
 
 
 
beng1102
    26-Nov-2021 09:49  
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If u have a lot of cash still can short.  Alternatively just naked short.  Is an open market.  Just need to pay up.  " unshortable" , I think just another way of manipulating the market by the brokerage house themselves.

sutiono      ( Date: 26-Nov-2021 09:39) Posted:

Read that unshortable message also , what did that mean ?

beng1102      ( Date: 26-Nov-2021 09:33) Posted:

Is a open market and eventually asset will be priced close to the fair value


 
 
sutiono
    26-Nov-2021 09:39  
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Read that unshortable message also , what did that mean ?

beng1102      ( Date: 26-Nov-2021 09:33) Posted:

Is a open market and eventually asset will be priced close to the fair value.

sutiono      ( Date: 26-Nov-2021 07:58) Posted:

Guess some smart monies are flowing into RS . Still accumulating.


 

 
beng1102
    26-Nov-2021 09:33  
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Is a open market and eventually asset will be priced close to the fair value.

sutiono      ( Date: 26-Nov-2021 07:58) Posted:

Guess some smart monies are flowing into RS . Still accumulating.

tritonyeah6666      ( Date: 26-Nov-2021 06:59) Posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/25/world/variant-south-africa-covid.html ---- The B1.1.529 variant has a ?very unusual constellation of mutations,? with more than 30 mutations in the spike protein alone, said Mr. de Oliveira. On the ACE2 receptor ? the protein that helps to create an entry point for the coronavirus to infect human cells ? the new variant has 10 mutations. In comparison, the Beta variant has three, the Delta variant has two, said Mr. de Oliveira


 
 
sutiono
    26-Nov-2021 07:58  
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Guess some smart monies are flowing into RS . Still accumulating.

tritonyeah6666      ( Date: 26-Nov-2021 06:59) Posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/25/world/variant-south-africa-covid.html ---- The B1.1.529 variant has a ?very unusual constellation of mutations,? with more than 30 mutations in the spike protein alone, said Mr. de Oliveira. On the ACE2 receptor ? the protein that helps to create an entry point for the coronavirus to infect human cells ? the new variant has 10 mutations. In comparison, the Beta variant has three, the Delta variant has two, said Mr. de Oliveira

 
 
tritonyeah6666
    26-Nov-2021 06:59  
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/25/world/variant-south-africa-covid.html ---- The B1.1.529 variant has a ?very unusual constellation of mutations,? with more than 30 mutations in the spike protein alone, said Mr. de Oliveira. On the ACE2 receptor ? the protein that helps to create an entry point for the coronavirus to infect human cells ? the new variant has 10 mutations. In comparison, the Beta variant has three, the Delta variant has two, said Mr. de Oliveira
 

 
vix787
    26-Nov-2021 00:56  
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Hehe....never trust analyst call. You don't realise most of the time their TP were missed. Why? You think with their resources they always make those mistake?
When they call anything only mean it suit their own interest.
If they wanna sell they will give a high call. If they want to buy they give a low call.... It is what it is.

investor999      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 23:16) Posted:

Wavehunter saw it..I believe his good intention. It is the Market that short sell itself. Take for example UOBKAYHIAN who was bullish on Top Glove bought and cut loss.and double down and call underweight..Called Riverstone CFD trading buy and also double down. When the BB cut loss and short sell to recover losses they can be very aggressive as they have to make up their losses by predating on retail players.

vix787      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:33) Posted:

If u come to think of it. If assume wavehunter is with a group that short RS, many things make sense. Timing wise. They did not convince anyone here to sell on rebound, it a long shot anyway. Only a couple of gullible one will take it.
What's collapse the share price is the EPF selling. Looks like EPF selling based on political direction so even at lose, they will just follow instruction to get funds to support their scheme.
Shortist just ride along the EPF selling and let someone constant writing something long-winded to complement their movement.....


 
 
beng1102
    26-Nov-2021 00:53  
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That what it meant by 200%.  Likely trying to help house traders who now planning to go long and make hard for anyone else to go short.

sutiono      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 22:37) Posted:

If sell short value is 100.00 , must provide cash deposit of 200.00 ?

beng1102      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 22:32) Posted:

I think it mean when they sold share from borrowing, margin (cash) is required as a security just in case need to force buy back


 
 
JessTrang
    26-Nov-2021 00:38  
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another way of thinking. Shortists boldness will decrease when the price gets lower. If they are confident and have plenty of ammunition, more likely they will keep encouraging people to load and drive the prices up to a level where they attack again.. 
 
 
investor999
    25-Nov-2021 23:16  
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Wavehunter saw it..I believe his good intention. It is the Market that short sell itself. Take for example UOBKAYHIAN who was bullish on Top Glove bought and cut loss.and double down and call underweight..Called Riverstone CFD trading buy and also double down. When the BB cut loss and short sell to recover losses they can be very aggressive as they have to make up their losses by predating on retail players.

vix787      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:33) Posted:

If u come to think of it. If assume wavehunter is with a group that short RS, many things make sense. Timing wise. They did not convince anyone here to sell on rebound, it a long shot anyway. Only a couple of gullible one will take it.
What's collapse the share price is the EPF selling. Looks like EPF selling based on political direction so even at lose, they will just follow instruction to get funds to support their scheme.
Shortist just ride along the EPF selling and let someone constant writing something long-winded to complement their movement.....

investor999      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:23) Posted:

Ha Ha. I am quite stupid one. Learning from Sif


 

 
sutiono
    25-Nov-2021 22:37  
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If sell short value is 100.00 , must provide cash deposit of 200.00 ?

beng1102      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 22:32) Posted:

I think it mean when they sold share from borrowing, margin (cash) is required as a security just in case need to force buy back.

sutiono      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 22:25) Posted:

If margin is 200 % what actually does it mean ? Sorry to ask this question , thanks.


 
 
beng1102
    25-Nov-2021 22:32  
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I think it mean when they sold share from borrowing, margin (cash) is required as a security just in case need to force buy back.

sutiono      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 22:25) Posted:

If margin is 200 % what actually does it mean ? Sorry to ask this question , thanks.

beng1102      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 22:20) Posted:

Could be that short exposure is too high and risk is too high.    So cheong to buy up tomorrow as we should expect a short squeeze


 
 
sutiono
    25-Nov-2021 22:25  
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If margin is 200 % what actually does it mean ? Sorry to ask this question , thanks.

beng1102      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 22:20) Posted:

Could be that short exposure is too high and risk is too high.    So cheong to buy up tomorrow as we should expect a short squeeze.

vix787      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:56) Posted:

I just saw a posting in investing note. Someone received text from their broker that Margin really 200%....RS become not shortable.
Look like condition for short squeeze is available. It's what happen to gamestop. Just need someone to start the ball rolling... 🤔


 
 
beng1102
    25-Nov-2021 22:20  
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Could be that short exposure is too high and risk is too high.    So cheong to buy up tomorrow as we should expect a short squeeze.

vix787      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:56) Posted:

I just saw a posting in investing note. Someone received text from their broker that Margin really 200%....RS become not shortable.
Look like condition for short squeeze is available. It's what happen to gamestop. Just need someone to start the ball rolling... 🤔

sutiono      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 19:40) Posted:

200% is too high , unlikely to be real ?


 
 
vix787
    25-Nov-2021 20:56  
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I just saw a posting in investing note. Someone received text from their broker that Margin really 200%....RS become not shortable.
Look like condition for short squeeze is available. It's what happen to gamestop. Just need someone to start the ball rolling... 🤔

sutiono      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 19:40) Posted:

200% is too high , unlikely to be real ?

investor999      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 19:27) Posted:

Someone said Riverstone is not shortable wef 24 Nov. Borrowing margin is 200% I think too much shorts utilised therefore short volume decrease


 

 
vix787
    25-Nov-2021 20:48  
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Also whoever claim he have no position, don't believe. If he/she said that he/she got short position, I am more willing to believe what he /she said. I applaud that becos implementing what she observe.
So don't give her too much credit becos I smell a rat... 😂
Anyway I just assume is "her" becos always so longwinded... LOL. Easier to type this way. No need to he/she anymore... 😂
 
 
vix787
    25-Nov-2021 20:33  
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If u come to think of it. If assume wavehunter is with a group that short RS, many things make sense. Timing wise. They did not convince anyone here to sell on rebound, it a long shot anyway. Only a couple of gullible one will take it.
What's collapse the share price is the EPF selling. Looks like EPF selling based on political direction so even at lose, they will just follow instruction to get funds to support their scheme.
Shortist just ride along the EPF selling and let someone constant writing something long-winded to complement their movement.....

investor999      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:23) Posted:

Ha Ha. I am quite stupid one. Learning from Sifu

vix787      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:19) Posted:

Don't think any shareholders with significant amount of shares will get psycho just by anyone from a forum.
If u do, u most probably a new investor who invest small, if u not. God bless u becos u don't realise u have the wrong mentality in investing...


 
 
investor999
    25-Nov-2021 20:23  
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Ha Ha. I am quite stupid one. Learning from Sifu

vix787      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:19) Posted:

Don't think any shareholders with significant amount of shares will get psycho just by anyone from a forum.
If u do, u most probably a new investor who invest small, if u not. God bless u becos u don't realise u have the wrong mentality in investing...

investor999      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:13) Posted:

Whatever people post. Sometimes with so much posts, we forget the basic simple logic. That is: as along as we can hold the shares no matter how low it goes, it will sure rebound. We are almost psychoed to think share price will keep suppressed for long time.


 
 
vix787
    25-Nov-2021 20:19  
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Don't think any shareholders with significant amount of shares will get psycho just by anyone from a forum.
If u do, u most probably a new investor who invest small, if u not. God bless u becos u don't realise u have the wrong mentality in investing...

investor999      ( Date: 25-Nov-2021 20:13) Posted:

Whatever people post. Sometimes with so much posts, we forget the basic simple logic. That is: as along as we can hold the shares no matter how low it goes, it will sure rebound. We are almost psychoed to think share price will keep suppressed for long time.

 
 
investor999
    25-Nov-2021 20:13  
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Whatever people post. Sometimes with so much posts, we forget the basic simple logic. That is: as along as we can hold the shares no matter how low it goes, it will sure rebound. We are almost psychoed to think share price will keep suppressed for long time.
 
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