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black_white
    07-Jan-2021 10:10  
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Thanks for sharing. We are all just exchanging information and " forecasting" what the future would be like in these forums for the various stocks. If I made a mistake, I would admit it - I admit this was an oversight. Of course was excited to see that it has be redomiciliated to Singapore - It bodes well for the future of the company. Whether or not it becomes CPF-tradable or not, if it does, it will be exciting to see what demand will be like. But given that it is in catalist board, then it cannot be CPF-tradable. Do you know how it can be moved from Catalist Board to SESDAQ?

I try to be as factual as possible. There may be some oversights in some areas. That' s even with the big fluctuations and seemingly out of the norm movements, I couldn' t identify if it was shortsell or left to right hand. Certain things, while factual, like what many have posted, may not be seen immediately like the namechange. We all know it will change officially by a certain date, but it didn' t. And we read deeper to correct each other when it would be done. When it was finally done, even SGX also did not update the name change which led us to guess that namechange though ACRA may not necessitate name change in SGX. 

So we also discuss to get each other on the right track instead of misleading others. Never was there an intent on my part to mislead others - I did miss one portion (serial 2) that you mentioned. Hence I admit mistake on my part for that. But it was never an intent to mislead others. I was merely suggesting this is one parth that LG could go down and it would be interesting to see what happens then when LG can trade using CPF.

You seem more knowledgeable in this area. So maybe can you share with me (and us) a bit more, how was it determined for a stock to go Catalist or SESDAQ then? How come Blumont ended up as SESDAQ and not LG? You got any idea how it worked? And is it possible for them to change from Catalist to SESDAQ in the future?

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 09:54) Posted:

Tell you one more fact:

Liongold transferred from Mainboard listing to Catalist on 5-June-2015. So it was not a SESDAQ   counter according to your point 2.

You want to promote a stock, you backed it up with facts. If you post untrue info that mislead, you face scrutiny which you cannot defend. Do not be surprised that individuals do get charged by the authorities and the equity market related penalty can include fines and jail term.

black_white      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 09:25) Posted:

Firstly, you do your fact check yourself. You mean I must spoonfeed everyone here? This is the list that must be fulfilled before a particular stock can be bought using CPF:
  1. The shares are offered by a company incorporated in Singapore
  2. The shares are listed on the SGX Main Board as primary listing (The shares are not new Catalist shares or shares transferred from SGX Main Board to Catalist (except for former SESDAQ shares))
  3. The shares are traded in Singapore dollars
  4. Agent Banks are allowed by the company to appoint all CPF shareholders of the company as proxies to attend and vote at meetings
  5. The shares must not be on the SGX watch-list
https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Assets/members/Documents/LISTOFSHARESINCLUDEDUNDERCPFIS.pdf

Everything takes time. Even the name change to be properly reflected in SGX is not effected yet despite official name change. So can you wait? Just because redomiciliation approved yesterday doesn' t mean toay can start immediately trading using CPF. 

You need to think and analyse and research deeper, or you can just assume I am spouting nonsense. I am merely listing what it means for LG down the road -t can be today, tomorrow or much later down the road when proper filing has been done to effect it. 


 
 
Operator81
    07-Jan-2021 09:54  
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Tell you one more fact:

Liongold transferred from Mainboard listing to Catalist on 5-June-2015. So it was not a SESDAQ   counter according to your point 2.

You want to promote a stock, you backed it up with facts. If you post untrue info that mislead, you face scrutiny which you cannot defend. Do not be surprised that individuals do get charged by the authorities and the equity market related penalty can include fines and jail term.

black_white      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 09:25) Posted:

Firstly, you do your fact check yourself. You mean I must spoonfeed everyone here? This is the list that must be fulfilled before a particular stock can be bought using CPF:
  1. The shares are offered by a company incorporated in Singapore
  2. The shares are listed on the SGX Main Board as primary listing (The shares are not new Catalist shares or shares transferred from SGX Main Board to Catalist (except for former SESDAQ shares))
  3. The shares are traded in Singapore dollars
  4. Agent Banks are allowed by the company to appoint all CPF shareholders of the company as proxies to attend and vote at meetings
  5. The shares must not be on the SGX watch-list
https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Assets/members/Documents/LISTOFSHARESINCLUDEDUNDERCPFIS.pdf

Everything takes time. Even the name change to be properly reflected in SGX is not effected yet despite official name change. So can you wait? Just because redomiciliation approved yesterday doesn' t mean toay can start immediately trading using CPF. 

You need to think and analyse and research deeper, or you can just assume I am spouting nonsense. I am merely listing what it means for LG down the road -t can be today, tomorrow or much later down the road when proper filing has been done to effect it. 

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 09:02) Posted:

Don' t need. I just checked my poems account, they do not have the CPF option for Liongold. So 1-1. I go one step further, i just checked SGX website for list of CPF approved stock, Liongold is not in the list, So 2-1


 
 
black_white
    07-Jan-2021 09:49  
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All the volume for past few days doesn' t have any short selling. Hence the action we saw the past few days seems more likely left to right hand. 
 
 

 
black_white
    07-Jan-2021 09:33  
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Need time bro. It will not be so fast. All these paperwork from SGX side will take time. But you see what the management has been doing. If they are not serious about turning around  this company, they won' t go through all these trouble to re-locate the registration, etc etc. More such small action news will be coming prior to result announcement in Feb. Compared to many other takeovers that are just for show, this one so far has shown substance through the little actions they do so far.

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:53) Posted:

Can some other assist on this? I have hit limitation on my CPF account for this service.. and do a tier 2 verification.  

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:50) Posted:

That is conclusive that It is CPFIS approved? You can try to buy using CPF and see if it gets converted to cash trade


 
 
black_white
    07-Jan-2021 09:25  
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Firstly, you do your fact check yourself. You mean I must spoonfeed everyone here? This is the list that must be fulfilled before a particular stock can be bought using CPF:
  1. The shares are offered by a company incorporated in Singapore
  2. The shares are listed on the SGX Main Board as primary listing (The shares are not new Catalist shares or shares transferred from SGX Main Board to Catalist (except for former SESDAQ shares))
  3. The shares are traded in Singapore dollars
  4. Agent Banks are allowed by the company to appoint all CPF shareholders of the company as proxies to attend and vote at meetings
  5. The shares must not be on the SGX watch-list
https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Assets/members/Documents/LISTOFSHARESINCLUDEDUNDERCPFIS.pdf

Everything takes time. Even the name change to be properly reflected in SGX is not effected yet despite official name change. So can you wait? Just because redomiciliation approved yesterday doesn' t mean toay can start immediately trading using CPF. 

You need to think and analyse and research deeper, or you can just assume I am spouting nonsense. I am merely listing what it means for LG down the road -t can be today, tomorrow or much later down the road when proper filing has been done to effect it. 

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 09:02) Posted:

Don' t need. I just checked my poems account, they do not have the CPF option for Liongold. So 1-1. I go one step further, i just checked SGX website for list of CPF approved stock, Liongold is not in the list, So 2-1.

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:53) Posted:

Can some other assist on this? I have hit limitation on my CPF account for this service.. and do a tier 2 verification.  


 
 
Mk8080
    07-Jan-2021 09:06  
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Yap, i just called SGX. Yes LG is not in the list... apologies that i tot it is able to do so...but why does vickers allow me to chose the option...my bad on this. 

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 09:02) Posted:

Don' t need. I just checked my poems account, they do not have the CPF option for Liongold. So 1-1. I go one step further, i just checked SGX website for list of CPF approved stock, Liongold is not in the list, So 2-1.

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:53) Posted:

Can some other assist on this? I have hit limitation on my CPF account for this service.. and do a tier 2 verification.  


 

 
Operator81
    07-Jan-2021 09:02  
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Don' t need. I just checked my poems account, they do not have the CPF option for Liongold. So 1-1. I go one step further, i just checked SGX website for list of CPF approved stock, Liongold is not in the list, So 2-1.

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:53) Posted:

Can some other assist on this? I have hit limitation on my CPF account for this service.. and do a tier 2 verification.  

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:50) Posted:

That is conclusive that It is CPFIS approved? You can try to buy using CPF and see if it gets converted to cash trade


 
 
Mk8080
    07-Jan-2021 08:53  
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Can some other assist on this? I have hit limitation on my CPF account for this service.. and do a tier 2 verification.  

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:50) Posted:

That is conclusive that It is CPFIS approved? You can try to buy using CPF and see if it gets converted to cash trade.

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:48) Posted:

I check using my trading platform (vicker), i tried to load more before using cash and CPF which then it doesn' t shows I' m able to use my CPF, but just i check and it allow me to use my CPF.  


 
 
Mk8080
    07-Jan-2021 08:51  
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Yes please, sure, I' m a fact person too no worries... thk u for the constructive questioning, u have a good day... let continue to substantiate facts to support or caution to prevent or strengthen. Thk u    

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:48) Posted:

I am just doing fact finding to substantiate your post. 

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:43) Posted:

Who did you check with? CPF board or SGX ? What is his or her name


 
 
Operator81
    07-Jan-2021 08:50  
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That is conclusive that It is CPFIS approved? You can try to buy using CPF and see if it gets converted to cash trade.

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:48) Posted:

I check using my trading platform (vicker), i tried to load more before using cash and CPF which then it doesn' t shows I' m able to use my CPF, but just i check and it allow me to use my CPF.  

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:43) Posted:

Who did you check with? CPF board or SGX ? What is his or her name


 

 
Operator81
    07-Jan-2021 08:48  
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I am just doing fact finding to substantiate your post. 

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:43) Posted:

Who did you check with? CPF board or SGX ? What is his or her name?

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:26) Posted:

Morning all,   CPF before 30 Dec cannot be used to buy LG. Counter, now can.. provided u link you CDP account to your trading account. I have check to verify. 


 
 
Mk8080
    07-Jan-2021 08:48  
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I check using my trading platform (vicker), i tried to load more before using cash and CPF which then it doesn' t shows I' m able to use my CPF, but just i check and it allow me to use my CPF.  

Operator81      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:43) Posted:

Who did you check with? CPF board or SGX ? What is his or her name?

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:26) Posted:

Morning all,   CPF before 30 Dec cannot be used to buy LG. Counter, now can.. provided u link you CDP account to your trading account. I have check to verify. 


 
 
Operator81
    07-Jan-2021 08:43  
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Who did you check with? CPF board or SGX ? What is his or her name?

Mk8080      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 08:26) Posted:

Morning all,   CPF before 30 Dec cannot be used to buy LG. Counter, now can.. provided u link you CDP account to your trading account. I have check to verify. 

 
 
Mk8080
    07-Jan-2021 08:35  
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I think this counter float is bigger then other counter ie BLUMONT while other micro seen movement with a few BB picking it up with collective retailer buyer, but this is relatively slower compare to it, and needs significant accumulation couple with its history that retailer is slightly hasten despite its past year Q + report thus need a bit more effort to take places before it moves.

Weather gold price goes up or down affect or push to move the counter i felt its market sentiments, and gold price giver would only be a + for the company reserves, if they sell it at a higher price then it = to more profit to report in the coming Q report. Pls correct me if I' m wrong with what I' m seeing here...  

papayaface      ( Date: 07-Jan-2021 07:39) Posted:

Wait until gold price go up and come down already ...... LG still hybernating. Is something really wrong that we dont know ? Good luck

black_white      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 22:27) Posted:

1. The company was previously registered in Bermuda and has transferred the registration to Singapore instead, meaning it has to follow Singapore laws, which are stricter than Bermuda - If you noticed, a lot of suspended counters in the past had their companies registered in those countries with less stringent laws governing company registration.

2. With the registration in Singapore, it means CPF money can be used to buy this stock apart from cash (previously CPF money cannot buy this stock). Will this generate additional demand? Not sure. But it will be interesting to watch


 
 
Mk8080
    07-Jan-2021 08:26  
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Morning all,   CPF before 30 Dec cannot be used to buy LG. Counter, now can.. provided u link you CDP account to your trading account. I have check to verify. 
 

 
Operator81
    07-Jan-2021 07:58  
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Who told you CPF money can be used to buy this share? You better get your facts right before you mislead others. Do you know the criteria to qualify as a CPFIS approved stock? You need to stop spouting nonsense that will mislead other market participants.

black_white      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 22:27) Posted:

1. The company was previously registered in Bermuda and has transferred the registration to Singapore instead, meaning it has to follow Singapore laws, which are stricter than Bermuda - If you noticed, a lot of suspended counters in the past had their companies registered in those countries with less stringent laws governing company registration.

2. With the registration in Singapore, it means CPF money can be used to buy this stock apart from cash (previously CPF money cannot buy this stock). Will this generate additional demand? Not sure. But it will be interesting to watch!

DexterT      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 18:30) Posted:

What' s this?

Receipt of Certificate of Discontinuance

Following receipt by the Company of the Instrument of Continuance, the Company is registered in Singapore with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company had on 30 December 2020 (Bermuda time) completed the prescribed filing in Bermuda and a certificate of discontinuance has been issued by the Registrar of Companies in Bermuda.
Accordingly, the Company has been discontinued in Bermuda with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company has submitted a copy of the certificate of discontinuance to ACRA to complete the re-domiciliation process.


 
 
papayaface
    07-Jan-2021 07:39  
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Wait until gold price go up and come down already ...... LG still hybernating. Is something really wrong that we dont know ? Good luck

black_white      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 22:27) Posted:

1. The company was previously registered in Bermuda and has transferred the registration to Singapore instead, meaning it has to follow Singapore laws, which are stricter than Bermuda - If you noticed, a lot of suspended counters in the past had their companies registered in those countries with less stringent laws governing company registration.

2. With the registration in Singapore, it means CPF money can be used to buy this stock apart from cash (previously CPF money cannot buy this stock). Will this generate additional demand? Not sure. But it will be interesting to watch!

DexterT      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 18:30) Posted:

What' s this?

Receipt of Certificate of Discontinuance

Following receipt by the Company of the Instrument of Continuance, the Company is registered in Singapore with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company had on 30 December 2020 (Bermuda time) completed the prescribed filing in Bermuda and a certificate of discontinuance has been issued by the Registrar of Companies in Bermuda.
Accordingly, the Company has been discontinued in Bermuda with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company has submitted a copy of the certificate of discontinuance to ACRA to complete the re-domiciliation process.


 
 
black_white
    06-Jan-2021 22:27  
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1. The company was previously registered in Bermuda and has transferred the registration to Singapore instead, meaning it has to follow Singapore laws, which are stricter than Bermuda - If you noticed, a lot of suspended counters in the past had their companies registered in those countries with less stringent laws governing company registration.

2. With the registration in Singapore, it means CPF money can be used to buy this stock apart from cash (previously CPF money cannot buy this stock). Will this generate additional demand? Not sure. But it will be interesting to watch!

DexterT      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 18:30) Posted:

What' s this?

Receipt of Certificate of Discontinuance

Following receipt by the Company of the Instrument of Continuance, the Company is registered in Singapore with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company had on 30 December 2020 (Bermuda time) completed the prescribed filing in Bermuda and a certificate of discontinuance has been issued by the Registrar of Companies in Bermuda.
Accordingly, the Company has been discontinued in Bermuda with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company has submitted a copy of the certificate of discontinuance to ACRA to complete the re-domiciliation process.

 
 
DexterT
    06-Jan-2021 18:30  
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What' s this?

Receipt of Certificate of Discontinuance

Following receipt by the Company of the Instrument of Continuance, the Company is registered in Singapore with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company had on 30 December 2020 (Bermuda time) completed the prescribed filing in Bermuda and a certificate of discontinuance has been issued by the Registrar of Companies in Bermuda.
Accordingly, the Company has been discontinued in Bermuda with effect from 30 December 2020. The Company has submitted a copy of the certificate of discontinuance to ACRA to complete the re-domiciliation process.
 
 
cycy818
    06-Jan-2021 14:05  
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Mk8080      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 13:16) Posted:

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Andrew123      ( Date: 06-Jan-2021 11:39) Posted:

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