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bamboo300306
    26-Apr-2020 21:56  
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For sure palm oil will recovered once the dust settle. The question is can GA weather through? The company has go through many crisis,. I think this time also no an exception.
 
 
AhLiang
    26-Apr-2020 16:10  
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Palm oil is the cheapest and most consumed oil in the world and is used in many products. Whether it is good or bad, we can't avoid using or eating it. Hence palm oil companies can die but palm oil cannot. Other palm oil companies can die but this sick elephant will continue breathing because it is the biggest palm oil company in Indonesia which is the world number one palm oil producing country and is owned by the second richest family there who has very good relationship with the government. Its share price is down because of MANY reasons and I believe it will continue to go down.
 
 
fatpanda
    26-Apr-2020 12:09  
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Bro,

Just passed by and saw some interesting posting here. Not so fast to see the steady climb in palm oil price. Reward is for the patient investors.
 

 
Trader-101
    26-Apr-2020 12:05  
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Hahaah Wah panda here Liao giving a boost to those who vested in this counter 
Shortists and bearish all better run before panda is proved to be correct 
By then too late Liao Hahahaha 

fatpanda      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 12:02) Posted:

Commodities price like crude oil, soybean are near or at bottom now. and definitely rebounce when inflation kick in and consumption start to pick up. So, be patient and wait. Monitor the crude oil and soybean prices and this would probably give you a clue when to start to load palm oil to your warehouse. Good luck!

 
 
tangoanna
    26-Apr-2020 12:04  
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Yes can monitor CPO prices. Not vested yet, but will buy some if hit 0.14... That guy is welcome to talk down golden-agri in the meantime hahahaa

fatpanda      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 12:02) Posted:

Commodities price like crude oil, soybean are near or at bottom now. and definitely rebounce when inflation kick in and consumption start to pick up. So, be patient and wait. Monitor the crude oil and soybean prices and this would probably give you a clue when to start to load palm oil to your warehouse. Good luck!

 
 
fatpanda
    26-Apr-2020 12:02  
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Commodities price like crude oil, soybean are near or at bottom now. and definitely rebounce when inflation kick in and consumption start to pick up. So, be patient and wait. Monitor the crude oil and soybean prices and this would probably give you a clue when to start to load palm oil to your warehouse. Good luck!
 

 
Trader-101
    26-Apr-2020 11:54  
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Lol I passed by and saw this forum , not vested 
What this guy is saying shows how he is being negative about Golden Agri business just for the sake of trying to prove his point 

If Palm oil does not have a future , u wouldn' t be seeing many products that u are using or even eating now Hahaha 
When you want to come forum to talk and prove ur points , make sure u research more about it before typing a post here lol

Not vested but I think Golden Agri price still have more downsides due to weak demands , but it' s still a viable business and still has a future. 

tangoanna      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 11:48) Posted:

1. Palm oil is not substitute for crude oil. Please do a simple look up for the uses of palm oil. Lots of products you consume today are made using palm oil. If you don' t mind using brent crude for your chicken rice then sure....
2. Efforts have been made to become more sustainable - less deforestation etc.

B30 mandate for biodiesel may face some obstacles in the short term due to low crude prices but it will still be pushed through for environmental reasons.


albeniz      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 11:41) Posted:

Does palm oil still have any future?

1.  Palm oil is supposed to act as an alternative to expensive crude oil.  With the proliferation of  renewable energy sources, the price of crude oil has fallen over the years.  As a secondary oil source, the price of palm oil wouldn&rsquo t be high and would not be able to fetch a good profit.

2. Harvesting of palm oil is environmental unfriendly.  There are penalties with deforestation activities.

Would it still be viable business? 
GoldenAgri has fallen dramatically over the last few years and is no longer good enough to be part of STI component.
I would give this counter a miss, based on the fundamentals for long term.
 


 
 
tangoanna
    26-Apr-2020 11:48  
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1. Palm oil is not substitute for crude oil. Please do a simple look up for the uses of palm oil. Lots of products you consume today are made using palm oil. If you don' t mind using brent crude for your chicken rice then sure....
2. Efforts have been made to become more sustainable - less deforestation etc.

B30 mandate for biodiesel may face some obstacles in the short term due to low crude prices but it will still be pushed through for environmental reasons.


albeniz      ( Date: 26-Apr-2020 11:41) Posted:

Does palm oil still have any future?

1.  Palm oil is supposed to act as an alternative to expensive crude oil.  With the proliferation of  renewable energy sources, the price of crude oil has fallen over the years.  As a secondary oil source, the price of palm oil wouldn&rsquo t be high and would not be able to fetch a good profit.

2. Harvesting of palm oil is environmental unfriendly.  There are penalties with deforestation activities.

Would it still be viable business? 
GoldenAgri has fallen dramatically over the last few years and is no longer good enough to be part of STI component.
I would give this counter a miss, based on the fundamentals for long term.
 

 
 
albeniz
    26-Apr-2020 11:41  
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Does palm oil still have any future?

1.  Palm oil is supposed to act as an alternative to expensive crude oil.  With the proliferation of  renewable energy sources, the price of crude oil has fallen over the years.  As a secondary oil source, the price of palm oil wouldn&rsquo t be high and would not be able to fetch a good profit.

2. Harvesting of palm oil is environmental unfriendly.  There are penalties with deforestation activities.

Would it still be viable business? 
GoldenAgri has fallen dramatically over the last few years and is no longer good enough to be part of STI component.
I would give this counter a miss, based on the fundamentals for long term.
 
 
 
cdodkny
    26-Apr-2020 11:00  
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Actually. When u look at stocks the up or down doesn?t really move just purely on cd. Who is buying and who is selling u see charts volumes all can tell.

Also, the sell down has been down past 7-10 days.

Is it going to recover ? See if there is a bottom for now.

Don?t get discourage just because u made a wrong call learn from it and be better.

We share ideas and suggestions here, there is no best trader but Traders that probably learn from the mistakes made.
 

 
vivacious
    26-Apr-2020 10:48  
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despite the CD, this stk is not gg up. Not gd. 
 
 
AhLiang
    26-Apr-2020 01:46  
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All will become cheaper and cheaper. Slowly but surely.
 
 
tritonyeah666
    25-Apr-2020 23:04  
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DBS not exactly cheap still close to 19. It was cheap back when it was 12-13 a few years ago.
 
 
AhLiang
    25-Apr-2020 14:13  
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Yes no sympathy to this counter. Let the BB play with himself - stack up mountains of buy and sell queues and buy sell buy sell with himself.

The golden opportunity of it going up is already gone. Who wants to buy and get screwed by the BB when bank stocks are now so bloody dirt cheap?
 
 
tritonyeah666
    25-Apr-2020 11:59  
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Disclaimer: I sold all of my GaR and loaded up Tuan Sing and Fuyu now when its still cheap.
 

 
vivacious
    23-Apr-2020 17:12  
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im out of this. 

AhLiang      ( Date: 22-Apr-2020 21:53) Posted:

It won't.

BB pushed all the way from 0.138 to 0.165 a few weeks ago and distributes discreetly for many days already. Hence even when it dropped down he is still making money. And because of the volumn, the profits were big. Many retailers averaged down in the process but if they have bought on contra, BB will make them sell low - because it is a zero sum game. BB sold them high, he will push the price down to buy back from them.

It is dangerous time to hold this counter now for all the reasons I have said in my earlier posts despite the coming dividend. Not vested long or short at present.

vivacious      ( Date: 22-Apr-2020 21:08) Posted:

tmr 16


 
 
AhLiang
    22-Apr-2020 22:09  
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P.S. Low oil price will void the bio-diesel effort. Palm oil price is affected in this way.
 
 
AhLiang
    22-Apr-2020 21:53  
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It won't.

BB pushed all the way from 0.138 to 0.165 a few weeks ago and distributes discreetly for many days already. Hence even when it dropped down he is still making money. And because of the volumn, the profits were big. Many retailers averaged down in the process but if they have bought on contra, BB will make them sell low - because it is a zero sum game. BB sold them high, he will push the price down to buy back from them.

It is dangerous time to hold this counter now for all the reasons I have said in my earlier posts despite the coming dividend. Not vested long or short at present.

vivacious      ( Date: 22-Apr-2020 21:08) Posted:

tmr 16

 
 
vivacious
    22-Apr-2020 21:08  
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tmr 16
 
 
AhLiang
    22-Apr-2020 20:56  
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For 2 days palm oil price dropped big.
 
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