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Conman
    10-Dec-2020 18:50  
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Where do the broking houses get their revenue besides earning that little commssion from their retailers buying/selling 5 lots of CDG shares after 3 years of waiting? When you see the house people walking in and out of your bosses' office you know something is going to happen.

I am only guessing : this is why almost every analyst report that we see is asking you to long. The big boys need them to ask you to buy.

Everybody has to work in the way his/her boss want if he/she still wants the job.

Except for IceBerg, who has its own modus oprandi, who dares to bite the fingers of any big listed company?

I expect Grab's capitalisation to be bigger than Sing Tel when it is listed. Everybody knows that it will list. The only question is when.

 

 
Conman
    10-Dec-2020 17:36  
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More on this subject of masses of customers:

Taxi companies earn from drivers' rental payment while taxi drivers earn the fares. The number of taxis is a result of amount of rental charged by the companies, the number of passengers available for the drivers to pick and how many uncles are willing to bear the stigma of being taxi drivers to drive taxis. And an equilibruim is always maintained over the up and down time.

Equilibruim means that the loss of customers to Grab does not affect the drivers as much as it affect the companies (because many have returned their taxis to either drive PHV or retire or change lines) Drivers still earn the same or about the same little income by driving 12 hours a day (at least) every day. But once rental is raised from the current level ($92), the number of taxis will shrink more.

Hence all is no good for CDG.

I will explain in my next post why we dont see any 'analyst' talking about PHV's challenge at CDG's taxis, which is a fact even the most ignorant uncles and aunties are fully aware of.
 
 
Conman
    10-Dec-2020 15:53  
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Wont ,because that is only for fun, ie have a paromanic view of the city. Got money and can take risk can try. Taxis serve the masses of the most ordinary people and not the very rich who were never their customers anyway.

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Conman
    09-Dec-2020 19:28  
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I am not asking you to buy or sell. Your money, you decide.

justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 18:21) Posted:

some of those uncles who bought at 1.3x have already laughed their way to the banks
the remaining uncles are waiting for a bigger laugh 

Conman      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 17:34) Posted:

The dream of any 'founder' is public listing. $1 put in can become $1000 after IPO. Then after that, get a fund manager to punt the stock up and down to squeeze the uncles. Get some 'analysts' to share tips with them to make them cough out their CPF money to buy.

Dont be one of those uncles


 

 
justicebaogaliao
    09-Dec-2020 18:21  
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some of those uncles who bought at 1.3x have already laughed their way to the banks
the remaining uncles are waiting for a bigger laugh 

Conman      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 17:34) Posted:

The dream of any 'founder' is public listing. $1 put in can become $1000 after IPO. Then after that, get a fund manager to punt the stock up and down to squeeze the uncles. Get some 'analysts' to share tips with them to make them cough out their CPF money to buy.

Dont be one of those uncles.

Starship      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 13:18) Posted:



 
 
Conman
    09-Dec-2020 17:34  
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The dream of any 'founder' is public listing. $1 put in can become $1000 after IPO. Then after that, get a fund manager to punt the stock up and down to squeeze the uncles. Get some 'analysts' to share tips with them to make them cough out their CPF money to buy.

Dont be one of those uncles.

Starship      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 13:18) Posted:



justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 12:27) Posted:

worst is spend money until bankrupt but the girl end up go to somebody else 


 
 
Starship
    09-Dec-2020 13:18  
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justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 12:27) Posted:

worst is spend money until bankrupt but the girl end up go to somebody else 

Conman      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 09:52) Posted:

Of course. Chase after girls also must spend money. But the final objective is worth all the spendings


 
 
justicebaogaliao
    09-Dec-2020 12:27  
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worst is spend money until bankrupt but the girl end up go to somebody else 

Conman      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 09:52) Posted:

Of course. Chase after girls also must spend money. But the final objective is worth all the spendings.

justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 08:10) Posted:

wht would i want to get rid of it, ppl are leeching good money from its ride hailing rebates and payment services 


 

 
Conman
    09-Dec-2020 09:52  
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Of course. Chase after girls also must spend money. But the final objective is worth all the spendings.

justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 08:10) Posted:

wht would i want to get rid of it, ppl are leeching good money from its ride hailing rebates and payment services 

Conman      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 05:05) Posted:

I know you dont like Grab, neither do I. But can you get rid of it now that it is beginning to invade into every home except those without a phone line? When the services of the two giants are bundled together no one can escape from it. Even the 3 big banks and the other 2 telcos and the Ah Longs will kena.

The only choice you are left with is qhether to support the share price of a iron-rice-bowl company surviving on tax-payers' money ànd Merdeka uncles' rental contributions in their final stage of working life.

Your money you decide.



 
 
Conman
    09-Dec-2020 09:41  
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Of course. Why would you think these 'analysts' want to burn midnight oil cracking their heads to tell you so many good things?

They just want to make you buy.

Entropy72      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 08:33) Posted:



UOBKH: ComfortDelGro Corp (CD SP)

Trading Buy Range: S$1.67-1.68 Last price: S$1.66
Target price: S$1.80
Protective stop: S$1.60


Price has retraced to the middle Bollinger band, which is also the 20-day EMA support and the Fibonacci 38% correction point. The 20-day EMA is heading upwards, suggesting potential upside ahead. The MACD is still strong and bullish at the moment. These could increase chances of the stock price rebounding from this support to move higher.

We see increasing odds of stock price testing S$1.80. Stops could be placed at S$1.60.

Approximate timeframe on average: 1 week (initiate this trade idea if the stock hits the entry price range within three trading days)

Our institutional research has a fundamental BUY and target price of S$1.78.

 
 
Entropy72
    09-Dec-2020 08:33  
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UOBKH: ComfortDelGro Corp (CD SP)

Trading Buy Range: S$1.67-1.68 Last price: S$1.66
Target price: S$1.80
Protective stop: S$1.60


Price has retraced to the middle Bollinger band, which is also the 20-day EMA support and the Fibonacci 38% correction point. The 20-day EMA is heading upwards, suggesting potential upside ahead. The MACD is still strong and bullish at the moment. These could increase chances of the stock price rebounding from this support to move higher.

We see increasing odds of stock price testing S$1.80. Stops could be placed at S$1.60.

Approximate timeframe on average: 1 week (initiate this trade idea if the stock hits the entry price range within three trading days)

Our institutional research has a fundamental BUY and target price of S$1.78.
 
 
justicebaogaliao
    09-Dec-2020 08:10  
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wht would i want to get rid of it, ppl are leeching good money from its ride hailing rebates and payment services 

Conman      ( Date: 09-Dec-2020 05:05) Posted:

I know you dont like Grab, neither do I. But can you get rid of it now that it is beginning to invade into every home except those without a phone line? When the services of the two giants are bundled together no one can escape from it. Even the 3 big banks and the other 2 telcos and the Ah Longs will kena.

The only choice you are left with is qhether to support the share price of a iron-rice-bowl company surviving on tax-payers' money ànd Merdeka uncles' rental contributions in their final stage of working life.

Your money you decide.



justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 23:48) Posted:

you speak as though Grab is the only company awarded with the digital bank license, and there are no other competitors as well as traditional banks with digital banking facilities around

how much money is Grab-Singtel going to burn this time to monopolize the market? Grab only gets 60% of the pie? u sure it' s going to huat


 
 
Conman
    09-Dec-2020 05:05  
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I know you dont like Grab, neither do I. But can you get rid of it now that it is beginning to invade into every home except those without a phone line? When the services of the two giants are bundled together no one can escape from it. Even the 3 big banks and the other 2 telcos and the Ah Longs will kena.

The only choice you are left with is qhether to support the share price of a iron-rice-bowl company surviving on tax-payers' money ànd Merdeka uncles' rental contributions in their final stage of working life.

Your money you decide.



justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 23:48) Posted:

you speak as though Grab is the only company awarded with the digital bank license, and there are no other competitors as well as traditional banks with digital banking facilities around

how much money is Grab-Singtel going to burn this time to monopolize the market? Grab only gets 60% of the pie? u sure it' s going to huat?

Conman      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 17:20) Posted:

Thanks for the nice words and good discussion.

Cash : I dont know where its cash came from but I suspect it came from taxis because of its monopoly of the trade in the past many years. Taxi is a very lucrative business even until
now with only 8,000 taxis. Even the smallest taxi company is still making money. And one invests in CDG only if one believes in taxis. Otherwise one can just buy SBS or Vicom.

Overseas : How is it doing overseas nobody knows. I believe taxis in China, UK, Indonesia or Australia have either died or are dying because of attacks by Uber, Grab, GoJek, Didi, etc
everywhere. The basis of my arguement is that : Singapore is the best place for taxi business and yet the company is saying here that it is running down its fleet, can taxi business elsewhere be good?

Vicom and Driving School : With the freeze of human and car population, one can buy Vicom if one still thinks that it is a growth stock.

Grab Losing Money : This will not affect Grab's stay in Singapore and its ride business. Uber has been losing money and still is, but its public listing has earned the investors a thousand times of their investors. Its founder Travis Kalanic only put in US$2m to start up Uber but he is now a multi-millionaire even after he was fired by his own board and later left the company. Grab will be the same, and its investors will huat more now that it has got a bank licence.



 

 
justicebaogaliao
    08-Dec-2020 23:48  
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you speak as though Grab is the only company awarded with the digital bank license, and there are no other competitors as well as traditional banks with digital banking facilities around

how much money is Grab-Singtel going to burn this time to monopolize the market? Grab only gets 60% of the pie? u sure it' s going to huat?

Conman      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 17:20) Posted:

Thanks for the nice words and good discussion.

Cash : I dont know where its cash came from but I suspect it came from taxis because of its monopoly of the trade in the past many years. Taxi is a very lucrative business even until
now with only 8,000 taxis. Even the smallest taxi company is still making money. And one invests in CDG only if one believes in taxis. Otherwise one can just buy SBS or Vicom.

Overseas : How is it doing overseas nobody knows. I believe taxis in China, UK, Indonesia or Australia have either died or are dying because of attacks by Uber, Grab, GoJek, Didi, etc
everywhere. The basis of my arguement is that : Singapore is the best place for taxi business and yet the company is saying here that it is running down its fleet, can taxi business elsewhere be good?

Vicom and Driving School : With the freeze of human and car population, one can buy Vicom if one still thinks that it is a growth stock.

Grab Losing Money : This will not affect Grab's stay in Singapore and its ride business. Uber has been losing money and still is, but its public listing has earned the investors a thousand times of their investors. Its founder Travis Kalanic only put in US$2m to start up Uber but he is now a multi-millionaire even after he was fired by his own board and later left the company. Grab will be the same, and its investors will huat more now that it has got a bank licence.



seba240698      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 14:48) Posted:

Hi, with due respect, you points are valid but please look at the following points too. 1) CDG has strong cashflow. It has public transport and VICOM as its backbone, so what if CDG doesn't operate taxi 5 or even 2 years from now, what will it become? I would believe this, CDG will be running buses and trains in Singapore, plus VICOM, plus its overseas businesses, it still can survive well and pays 4 to 5% dividends like the pre-COVID days. Moreover, when we talk about CDG not operating taxis, we are talking as a worst case scenario. 2) Grab has not made a SINGLE CENT of profit since 2013, when it entered Singapore market. What makes you think it can make profit in the future? Look at Uber, it is still making losses even after listing in USA stock exchange. Don't you smell rat? Doesn't this tell you that ride hailing business is a non profitable and unsustainable business? Grab has to move AWAY quickly from its ride hailing business, then this will benefit CDG taxi business, albeit a small one. My 2-cent. DYODD.


 
 
Conman
    08-Dec-2020 17:24  
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Correction : Travis Kalanick, muli-billionaire
 
 
Conman
    08-Dec-2020 17:20  
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Thanks for the nice words and good discussion.

Cash : I dont know where its cash came from but I suspect it came from taxis because of its monopoly of the trade in the past many years. Taxi is a very lucrative business even until
now with only 8,000 taxis. Even the smallest taxi company is still making money. And one invests in CDG only if one believes in taxis. Otherwise one can just buy SBS or Vicom.

Overseas : How is it doing overseas nobody knows. I believe taxis in China, UK, Indonesia or Australia have either died or are dying because of attacks by Uber, Grab, GoJek, Didi, etc
everywhere. The basis of my arguement is that : Singapore is the best place for taxi business and yet the company is saying here that it is running down its fleet, can taxi business elsewhere be good?

Vicom and Driving School : With the freeze of human and car population, one can buy Vicom if one still thinks that it is a growth stock.

Grab Losing Money : This will not affect Grab's stay in Singapore and its ride business. Uber has been losing money and still is, but its public listing has earned the investors a thousand times of their investors. Its founder Travis Kalanic only put in US$2m to start up Uber but he is now a multi-millionaire even after he was fired by his own board and later left the company. Grab will be the same, and its investors will huat more now that it has got a bank licence.



seba240698      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 14:48) Posted:

Hi, with due respect, you points are valid but please look at the following points too. 1) CDG has strong cashflow. It has public transport and VICOM as its backbone, so what if CDG doesn't operate taxi 5 or even 2 years from now, what will it become? I would believe this, CDG will be running buses and trains in Singapore, plus VICOM, plus its overseas businesses, it still can survive well and pays 4 to 5% dividends like the pre-COVID days. Moreover, when we talk about CDG not operating taxis, we are talking as a worst case scenario. 2) Grab has not made a SINGLE CENT of profit since 2013, when it entered Singapore market. What makes you think it can make profit in the future? Look at Uber, it is still making losses even after listing in USA stock exchange. Don't you smell rat? Doesn't this tell you that ride hailing business is a non profitable and unsustainable business? Grab has to move AWAY quickly from its ride hailing business, then this will benefit CDG taxi business, albeit a small one. My 2-cent. DYODD.

Conman      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 14:31) Posted:

I dont know how to drive Grab but I know a little bit more than you about it because my eyes are always observing and my brain always thinking.

The imending Grab-GoJek merger and the new digibanking licence Grab and Sing Tell got are definitely negagative for CDG. Its so-called booking app will become a white elephant and used only by 0.1% of the riders.

Grab or GoJek or Tada or Ryde do not have their own drivers. The drivers are called PHD collectively and are free to take any PHV booking.

The merger will make the Grab app the preferred app of Singapore. And by end-2021, you probably can use the same app to apply for a loan or redeem your HP reward points to book a ride or order your wan tan mee.

For the drivers, if they turn on their Grab app, bookings will shoot out from their HPs like machine guns firing. They will brag a $500 earning a day in their forum.

Now you already see CDG taxis queuing long long at the malls. No calls from their app because you only use the Grab or GoJek app. Next year, the drivers will not even bother to wait for calls. You either find them queuing at Geylang Serai or Tekka market ...before retiring within just a few more years


 
 
justicebaogaliao
    08-Dec-2020 15:36  
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ya Grab giving out more free money that ppl gladly receive with open hands and open brains 

Conman      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 14:31) Posted:

I dont know how to drive Grab but I know a little bit more than you about it because my eyes are always observing and my brain always thinking.

The imending Grab-GoJek merger and the new digibanking licence Grab and Sing Tell got are definitely negagative for CDG. Its so-called booking app will become a white elephant and used only by 0.1% of the riders.

Grab or GoJek or Tada or Ryde do not have their own drivers. The drivers are called PHD collectively and are free to take any PHV booking.

The merger will make the Grab app the preferred app of Singapore. And by end-2021, you probably can use the same app to apply for a loan or redeem your HP reward points to book a ride or order your wan tan mee.

For the drivers, if they turn on their Grab app, bookings will shoot out from their HPs like machine guns firing. They will brag a $500 earning a day in their forum.

Now you already see CDG taxis queuing long long at the malls. No calls from their app because you only use the Grab or GoJek app. Next year, the drivers will not even bother to wait for calls. You either find them queuing at Geylang Serai or Tekka market ...before retiring within just a few more years!

justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 12:22) Posted:

Conman knows nothing about Grab or CDG business.. he is out to confuse and short and confuse and short 


 
 
seba240698
    08-Dec-2020 14:48  
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Hi, with due respect, you points are valid but please look at the following points too. 1) CDG has strong cashflow. It has public transport and VICOM as its backbone, so what if CDG doesn't operate taxi 5 or even 2 years from now, what will it become? I would believe this, CDG will be running buses and trains in Singapore, plus VICOM, plus its overseas businesses, it still can survive well and pays 4 to 5% dividends like the pre-COVID days. Moreover, when we talk about CDG not operating taxis, we are talking as a worst case scenario. 2) Grab has not made a SINGLE CENT of profit since 2013, when it entered Singapore market. What makes you think it can make profit in the future? Look at Uber, it is still making losses even after listing in USA stock exchange. Don't you smell rat? Doesn't this tell you that ride hailing business is a non profitable and unsustainable business? Grab has to move AWAY quickly from its ride hailing business, then this will benefit CDG taxi business, albeit a small one. My 2-cent. DYODD.

Conman      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 14:31) Posted:

I dont know how to drive Grab but I know a little bit more than you about it because my eyes are always observing and my brain always thinking.

The imending Grab-GoJek merger and the new digibanking licence Grab and Sing Tell got are definitely negagative for CDG. Its so-called booking app will become a white elephant and used only by 0.1% of the riders.

Grab or GoJek or Tada or Ryde do not have their own drivers. The drivers are called PHD collectively and are free to take any PHV booking.

The merger will make the Grab app the preferred app of Singapore. And by end-2021, you probably can use the same app to apply for a loan or redeem your HP reward points to book a ride or order your wan tan mee.

For the drivers, if they turn on their Grab app, bookings will shoot out from their HPs like machine guns firing. They will brag a $500 earning a day in their forum.

Now you already see CDG taxis queuing long long at the malls. No calls from their app because you only use the Grab or GoJek app. Next year, the drivers will not even bother to wait for calls. You either find them queuing at Geylang Serai or Tekka market ...before retiring within just a few more years!

justicebaogaliao      ( Date: 08-Dec-2020 12:22) Posted:

Conman knows nothing about Grab or CDG business.. he is out to confuse and short and confuse and short 


 
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