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Echoes
    27-Feb-2024 18:27  
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50cts tomorrow is too much la . I did a rough estimation, if they stick to a 50% payout ratio its will be around 40 cts .

But if its 40cts tomorrow , many will be dissapointed and dump . Cos last year the payout ratio is 53% . Also , because DBS has set the bar too high devil

42 to 45cts is most likely IMO .  Of course , I wouldnt mind if its more .

We will know is about 12 hrs time . 
 
 
Goldfinger
    27-Feb-2024 15:52  
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Yes, I have decided to wait until after the results tomorrow, before more buying of OCBC.  While those who bought before the DBS announcement were proven right, it may be prudent to wait out the OCBC results first.

RL16EGG      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 12:44) Posted:

Hope so, haha.
I prepared for at least -50c if it misses eps come tomorrow lol given the brutal selling off on uob -$1.
Be minded, STI has dropped by abt 80ts since Fri.
 

Goldfinger      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 11:18) Posted:

50 cents would be delightful.  But, that would have to include some CET1 capital returns I suspect.  Anyway, I am hoping for some bonus issue, like from DBS, but this is a remote chance.


 
 
seanpent
    27-Feb-2024 15:06  
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as long shorting goes on ?

think Korea also don' t allow

moonsun      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 15:02) Posted:

Looking at price action, doubt there is any special dividend etc.. every mkt record high except spore?
Really sick of sgx.. banks should be immune..
Let see..

 

 
moonsun
    27-Feb-2024 15:02  
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Looking at price action, doubt there is any special dividend etc.. every mkt record high except spore?
Really sick of sgx.. banks should be immune..
Let see..
 
 
RL16EGG
    27-Feb-2024 12:44  
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Hope so, haha.
I prepared for at least -50c if it misses eps come tomorrow lol given the brutal selling off on uob -$1.
Be minded, STI has dropped by abt 80ts since Fri.
 

Goldfinger      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 11:18) Posted:

50 cents would be delightful.  But, that would have to include some CET1 capital returns I suspect.  Anyway, I am hoping for some bonus issue, like from DBS, but this is a remote chance.

huattuatua      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 11:08) Posted:

mkt talk is 50 cts min for this earnings report and looking forward to another 50 cts next half.

just listen to grapevine nia, could be very wrong.

dyod


 
 
Goldfinger
    27-Feb-2024 11:18  
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50 cents would be delightful.  But, that would have to include some CET1 capital returns I suspect.  Anyway, I am hoping for some bonus issue, like from DBS, but this is a remote chance.

huattuatua      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 11:08) Posted:

mkt talk is 50 cts min for this earnings report and looking forward to another 50 cts next half.

just listen to grapevine nia, could be very wrong.

dyodd

Goldfinger      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 11:03) Posted:

What are people expecting for the dividend announcement?  I am crossing fingers for 45 cents.


 

 
huattuatua
    27-Feb-2024 11:08  
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mkt talk is 50 cts min for this earnings report and looking forward to another 50 cts next half.

just listen to grapevine nia, could be very wrong.

dyodd

Goldfinger      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 11:03) Posted:

What are people expecting for the dividend announcement?  I am crossing fingers for 45 cents.

huattuatua      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 10:21) Posted:

all eyes on tomorrow earnings report.


 
 
Goldfinger
    27-Feb-2024 11:03  
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What are people expecting for the dividend announcement?  I am crossing fingers for 45 cents.

huattuatua      ( Date: 27-Feb-2024 10:21) Posted:

all eyes on tomorrow earnings report.

 
 
huattuatua
    23-Mar-2021 20:05  
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all eyes on tomorrow earnings report.
 
 
seanpent
    27-Feb-2024 09:51  
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seems like won' t be spared too

moonsun      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 14:09) Posted:

All banks kenna sell down despite other mkts hitting record highs..
What happening? Ocbc to dip below 13 ? Was hoping 14 soon..

 

 
moonsun
    23-Feb-2024 14:09  
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All banks kenna sell down despite other mkts hitting record highs..
What happening? Ocbc to dip below 13 ? Was hoping 14 soon..
 
 
Echoes
    23-Feb-2024 11:51  
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Lol good one .

UOB effect can still swallow . If SIA or Genting effect then no eye see liao .

prophetjul      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 11:03) Posted:

UOB effect. 

seanpent      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 10:27) Posted:

sliding down in anticipation of ?


 
 
seanpent
    23-Feb-2024 11:51  
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seems like the beginning of more weakness 
 
no win-win situation 


prophetjul      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 11:03) Posted:

UOB effect. 

seanpent      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 10:27) Posted:

sliding down in anticipation of ?


 
 
bishan22
    23-Feb-2024 11:06  
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Irritating temple street adver .pop up and pop up...
 
 
prophetjul
    23-Feb-2024 11:03  
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UOB effect. 

seanpent      ( Date: 23-Feb-2024 10:27) Posted:

sliding down in anticipation of ?

 

 
seanpent
    23-Feb-2024 10:47  
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Hope OCBC can maintain its price & not succumbed to market sentiment
 
 
seanpent
    23-Feb-2024 10:27  
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sliding down in anticipation of ?
 
 
Echoes
    21-Feb-2024 09:43  
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DBS announced the assistance  first , then OCBC follow suit .

Hopefully OCBC next week results also follow suit . 
 
 
Echoes
    21-Feb-2024 09:39  
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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ocbc-one-payment-1000-junior-employees-cost-living-4135966

 


SINGAPORE: OCBC is giving 4,600 junior employees in Singapore  S$1,000 (US$743) each  to help them better cope with rising cost-of-living concerns.

The payout is part of a one-off support for close to 14,000 junior employees globally and totals around S$9 million, the bank announced on Tuesday (Feb 20).The support will help more than 40 per cent of OCBC Group&rsquo s overall headcount in its 19 markets and includes employees across OCBC and its subsidiaries including Bank of Singapore, OCBC Securities and Great Eastern Holdings.

The employees will receive the payout from February to March this year, said OCBC.

In Singapore,  those receiving the one-off support make up about 40 per cent of the total number of employees based in the country, and include new entrants to the workforce and unionised employees.

Core inflation in Singapore is " expected to decrease more gradually only towards the last quarter of 2024" , according to the bank. Singapore' s  core inflation rose to 3.3 per cent  in December.

The one-off payment is aligned with a  recommendation from the National Wages Council  (NWC) in October 2023 which urged employers to give workers one-off payment to help with the rising cost of living, beyond the support from the government.

" Providing a one-off assistance payment, with heavier weightage for lower to middle income employees, was one of the recommendations that was accepted by the Singapore government," said OCBC.



For employees outside Singapore, the one-off support takes into consideration the respective local market conditions, OCBC said.

OCBC&rsquo s head of group human resources, Ms Lee Hwee Boon said: &ldquo The amount, for each of the 14,000 who will benefit, may not be large. 

" However, we hope that this can help colleagues defray concerns on the rising cost of living."

The bank also said that it " regularly reviews its employees&rsquo built-in wage increases and variable payments to ensure that they commensurate with the bank&rsquo s performance and employees&rsquo contribution" .
DBS bank had on Feb 7 announced a similar one-time bonus of S$1,000 for its junior employees - who make up half of its total headcount.
Source: CNA/fh(rj)
 
 
Goldfinger
    06-Feb-2024 10:29  
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I think final dividend no less than 40 cents.  They typically do not lower, once they raise the dividends.  HIgher would be a pleasant surprise.

RL16EGG      ( Date: 30-Jan-2024 15:55) Posted:

hmmm 13.4 ? 0.78 dividend, 0.582 yield.
Also, p/b 1.188, nav 11.28 at 13.4
I better wait at 12.61, around 200ma level if it ever comes down lol
Anyway, I think it should do better than 13.4 as ocbc so far keeps to 50%+ payout ratio.
At least, in short term surge. Of course, barring any disaster.

Joelton      ( Date: 30-Jan-2024 13:28) Posted:

OCBC&rsquo s results for 4QFY2023 should not surprise, but dividends may: RHB
 
The Singapore research team at RHB Bank Singapore has kept its &ldquo neutral&rdquo call on Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC) ahead of the bank&rsquo s results for the 4QFY2023 and FY2023 ended Dec 31, 2023, on Feb 28.
 
To the team, the bank&rsquo s results for the final quarter should come as expected although its dividends may be a surprise.
 
For the FY2023, the team expects the bank&rsquo s results to meet their estimates as well as that of the consensus.
 
&ldquo A peaking rates cycle will likely lead to income pressures and dampen share price performance of Singapore banks under coverage. However, decent dividend yield should provide downside support,&rdquo it writes.
 
On a q-o-q basis, the team is expecting a slight easing in the bank&rsquo s 4QFY2023 bottomline on the back of lower non-interest income and catch-up on operating expenditures (opex). However, OCBC&rsquo s earnings should still register y-o-y growth from a stronger net interest income (NII) and lower loan impairments.
 
For the quarter, the RHB team expects to see sustained loan growth with weakness in trade-related loans cushioned by stable mortgage and non-trade corporate lending.
&ldquo OCBC noted pockets of aggressive mortgage pricing in 4Q, but refrained from competing aggressively despite its ample liquidity. 3QFY2023 loan book contracted by 2% YoY (+1% y-o-y, constant currency terms) and for FY2023, growth should look broadly similar (FY2023 guidance: low-single digit growth),&rdquo says the team.
 
Meanwhile, the bank has ample liquidity (with a loan-to-deposit ratio of 79.9% for the 3QFY2023), which has allowed it to run off some of the costlier fixed deposits to keep funding cost pressures manageable.
 
&ldquo Recall that 3QFY2023/9MFY2023 net interest margin (NIM) of 2.27% and 2.28% were trending ahead of the [estimated] 2.25% guidance. OCBC had guided for a weaker 4Q NIM q-o-q on muted loans growth, deposit competition and lower exit NIM (of 2.23%) &ndash all of which appear to have shaped up as expected,&rdquo says the team.
 
The final quarter of the year is a seasonally soft one for wealth management activities and the RHB team expects OCBC&rsquo s 4QFY2023 results to be no exception. The team also expects the bank&rsquo s trade- and loan-related fees to reflect the continued softness in loans growth.
 
However, card fees are expected to be a &ldquo bright&rdquo spark for the bank, similar to one of its peers, whose card fees remained healthy in the 4QFY2023 thanks to the holiday season.
 
Overall, non-interest income in the 4QFY2023 is unlikely to excite, unless insurance and non-customer flow trading income surprises positively.
 
Other positives identified by the team: the bank&rsquo s asset quality, in which the team expects to see relatively stable credit cost q-o-q in the 4QFY2023 and the acquisition of PT Bank Commonwealth
 
The latter is a &ldquo smallish, bolt-on acquisition&rdquo that will help OCBC Indonesia&rsquo s operations broaden its product offerings such as auto financing, as well as help it build scale. There is also little overlap in the customer base between both parties.
 
&ldquo Near-term, the deal is not likely to have any major impact on capital or earnings but should be positive over the longer term,&rdquo says the RHB team.
 
While the team has no changes to its earnings forecasts, it expects a final dividend per share (DPS) of 38 cents, which would bring OCBC&rsquo s DPS for the FY2023 to 78 cents, above the 68 cent-dividend in FY2022. FY2023&rsquo s estimated dividend represents a yield of 6% and a payout of 49.5%.
 
The team has lowered its target price to $13.40 from $13.70 to reflect its new 0% environmental, social and governance (ESG) premium and, or discount after a change in the country&rsquo s median ESG score.


 
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