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Biz Times june 26..Valuetronics to expand

Fake queue to sell at 60cts suddenly disapoear..will close 60cts and above...happy to sell all 79cts to 82cts in Jan 2020 when Trump killed Iran general and bought back 250 lots from 45 to 58 cts..will ride out and take dividends $6250 verses $8000 last year..😂 based on about S$0.25 per lot verses S$ 0.32 Better than put in bank at least can sleep peacefilly with valutronics..love to share where are u where this countrr below 60cts..u want 34cts..i doubt u buy...talk is cheap

 

typo...sin 0.02515

halleluyah      ( Date: 08-Jun-2020 08:46) Posted: div hk 14ct = sin 0.2515.....looks like heading 0.675....dyodd....

 

div hk 14ct = sin 0.2515.....looks like heading 0.675....dyodd....

 

I think they purposely make all these statements to bring down the price for accumulation ..
U know the Hongkies...

halleluyah      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 23:06) Posted: agak tis fellow must be a china ah pek type who wrote it n din mean anything tat bad....afterall most business also kena effect by tis virus or US/China trade war....i see tis px is worth longing wth its cash flow so i tikam some.... nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 22:33) Posted: the problem is valuetronics is being too honest and announce that their FY2021 will be significantly lower performance than FY2020, and saying it is in the toughest business environment in its operating history.. i dont think any other electronic counters give such a bad outlook in the way they write.. at most they just say they expect poorer performance, not to the extent of using the words " significantly" and " toughest" .. i appreciate companies to be frank about their business situation though and this should be the way all companies should behave, disclosing even the worse news possible to allow investors to have the correct information.. the only things analysts are useful is their information that companies disclose to them during investors meetings, which are info not accessible to retailers.. other stuff from analysts such as target price is just a pinch of salt.. cos if they want to fry the stock up or down, they use parameters that are favorable to them to justify their target price.. but in any case, valuetronics have a really strong cash on hand to tight any crisis, and hopefully they are able to win back customers that they lose in FY202

 

below 60cts will be for long..even though i ckeared all my positions a70-72..now buy back below 60cts..and can sleep well...represent good chance to accumulate as money in bank is less than the yield from this counter.😁 😀 😃 😄

 

let' s hope so.. analysts given estimates that eps could drop 30% in FY2021, which wasnt that bad in my definition as " significant" .. as long as it is not more than 50% drop in eps on a sustained basis, i think still can stomach the temporary downturn lol

halleluyah      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 23:06) Posted: agak tis fellow must be a china ah pek type who wrote it n din mean anything tat bad....afterall most business also kena effect by tis virus or US/China trade war....i see tis px is worth longing wth its cash flow so i tikam some.... nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 22:33) Posted: the problem is valuetronics is being too honest and announce that their FY2021 will be significantly lower performance than FY2020, and saying it is in the toughest business environment in its operating history.. i dont think any other electronic counters give such a bad outlook in the way they write.. at most they just say they expect poorer performance, not to the extent of using the words " significantly" and " toughest" .. i appreciate companies to be frank about their business situation though and this should be the way all companies should behave, disclosing even the worse news possible to allow investors to have the correct information.. the only things analysts are useful is their information that companies disclose to them during investors meetings, which are info not accessible to retailers.. other stuff from analysts such as target price is just a pinch of salt.. cos if they want to fry the stock up or down, they use parameters that are favorable to them to justify their target price.. but in any case, valuetronics have a really strong cash on hand to tight any crisis, and hopefully they are able to win back customers that they lose in FY202

 

I'm still vested, thinking long term. If there's a new president in the USA soon, perhaps the trade war situation may get better and that spells good news for this counter 🤔

 

This is where the track record of management in crisis is important. I remembered this management had the foresight to switch focus from CE to ICE products not too long ago when the profit margin of CE started to thin. I believed this management will again be able to steer Valuetronics out of this storm 

nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 22:33) Posted: the problem is valuetronics is being too honest and announce that their FY2021 will be significantly lower performance than FY2020, and saying it is in the toughest business environment in its operating history.. i dont think any other electronic counters give such a bad outlook in the way they write.. at most they just say they expect poorer performance, not to the extent of using the words " significantly" and " toughest" .. i appreciate companies to be frank about their business situation though and this should be the way all companies should behave, disclosing even the worse news possible to allow investors to have the correct information.. the only things analysts are useful is their information that companies disclose to them during investors meetings, which are info not accessible to retailers.. other stuff from analysts such as target price is just a pinch of salt.. cos if they want to fry the stock up or down, they use parameters that are favorable to them to justify their target price.. but in any case, valuetronics have a really strong cash on hand to tight any crisis, and hopefully they are able to win back customers that they lose in FY2021 nott1965      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 20:37) Posted: Besides AEM, which technolgy stocks or even other counters did not mention in their outlook the future is unclear, depending on the US-China, COVID outcomes? Why analysts target Valuetronics? They had also targetted Venture last month when they released their results. Look at Venture' s share price toda

 

agak tis fellow must be a china ah pek type who wrote it n din mean anything tat bad....afterall most business also kena effect by tis virus or US/China trade war....i see tis px is worth longing wth its cash flow so i tikam some....

nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 22:33) Posted: the problem is valuetronics is being too honest and announce that their FY2021 will be significantly lower performance than FY2020, and saying it is in the toughest business environment in its operating history.. i dont think any other electronic counters give such a bad outlook in the way they write.. at most they just say they expect poorer performance, not to the extent of using the words " significantly" and " toughest" .. i appreciate companies to be frank about their business situation though and this should be the way all companies should behave, disclosing even the worse news possible to allow investors to have the correct information.. the only things analysts are useful is their information that companies disclose to them during investors meetings, which are info not accessible to retailers.. other stuff from analysts such as target price is just a pinch of salt.. cos if they want to fry the stock up or down, they use parameters that are favorable to them to justify their target price.. but in any case, valuetronics have a really strong cash on hand to tight any crisis, and hopefully they are able to win back customers that they lose in FY2021 nott1965      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 20:37) Posted: Besides AEM, which technolgy stocks or even other counters did not mention in their outlook the future is unclear, depending on the US-China, COVID outcomes? Why analysts target Valuetronics? They had also targetted Venture last month when they released their results. Look at Venture' s share price toda

 

the problem is valuetronics is being too honest and announce that their FY2021 will be significantly lower performance than FY2020, and saying it is in the toughest business environment in its operating history.. i dont think any other electronic counters give such a bad outlook in the way they write.. at most they just say they expect poorer performance, not to the extent of using the words " significantly" and " toughest" .. i appreciate companies to be frank about their business situation though and this should be the way all companies should behave, disclosing even the worse news possible to allow investors to have the correct information.. the only things analysts are useful is their information that companies disclose to them during investors meetings, which are info not accessible to retailers.. other stuff from analysts such as target price is just a pinch of salt.. cos if they want to fry the stock up or down, they use parameters that are favorable to them to justify their target price.. but in any case, valuetronics have a really strong cash on hand to tight any crisis, and hopefully they are able to win back customers that they lose in FY2021

nott1965      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 20:37) Posted: Besides AEM, which technolgy stocks or even other counters did not mention in their outlook the future is unclear, depending on the US-China, COVID outcomes? Why analysts target Valuetronics? They had also targetted Venture last month when they released their results. Look at Venture' s share price today nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 19:57) Posted: That was the vietnamese analyst who gave tp 25cents and value one of their business segment as 0 value and ignore their cash on hand at that time which is around 20+ cents.. i did not dare to jeep that time after her report causing the crash, then subsequently went in at 40+ cents slowly.. holding for 5 years alr and getting stable dividends.. but valuetronics latest commentary kinda spook me.. although they got really strong cash, but dunno how significantly lower is their definition of lower for FY2021 vs 202

 

we all know whom trust the analysts report and who read and dyodd kind...
if analyst is so good at their report... they dont need to do analysis anymore... they will always be the first mover and can retired than everyone else...
investment analyst makes use of some typial cognitive biases that anchor readers perception... and that is what they are hired to do
 

nott1965      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 20:37) Posted: Besides AEM, which technolgy stocks or even other counters did not mention in their outlook the future is unclear, depending on the US-China, COVID outcomes? Why analysts target Valuetronics? They had also targetted Venture last month when they released their results. Look at Venture' s share price today nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 19:57) Posted: That was the vietnamese analyst who gave tp 25cents and value one of their business segment as 0 value and ignore their cash on hand at that time which is around 20+ cents.. i did not dare to jeep that time after her report causing the crash, then subsequently went in at 40+ cents slowly.. holding for 5 years alr and getting stable dividends.. but valuetronics latest commentary kinda spook me.. although they got really strong cash, but dunno how significantly lower is their definition of lower for FY2021 vs 202

 

still got chace to go down
but possibility is lower

so best is wait for w2 formation
no hurry

HappyZero      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 21:20) Posted: what are the chances that a new wave will start lower than wc?  SgYuan      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 20:25) Posted: wabc end 575 - wabc tgt near w4 575 new up wave going to start ​ day cloud support 575 day chart

 

what are the chances that a new wave will start lower than wc? 

SgYuan      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 20:25) Posted: wabc end 575 - wabc tgt near w4 575 new up wave going to start ​ day cloud support 575 day chart

 

Thanks to all the Bros who challenged the report. In fact the price re-bounded today sometime after lunch to 59.5.

Those who believed the threat have already handed over their shares to new buyers. Next week is back to 61 / 62. Have a great weekend.

 

Besides AEM, which technolgy stocks or even other counters did not mention in their outlook the future is unclear, depending on the US-China, COVID outcomes? Why analysts target Valuetronics? They had also targetted Venture last month when they released their results. Look at Venture' s share price today

nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 19:57) Posted: That was the vietnamese analyst who gave tp 25cents and value one of their business segment as 0 value and ignore their cash on hand at that time which is around 20+ cents.. i did not dare to jeep that time after her report causing the crash, then subsequently went in at 40+ cents slowly.. holding for 5 years alr and getting stable dividends.. but valuetronics latest commentary kinda spook me.. although they got really strong cash, but dunno how significantly lower is their definition of lower for FY2021 vs 2020 nott1965      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 19:17) Posted: My experience teaches me that to win in the stock market, one needs to study psychology and remain calm when prices go up or down. I am sure many BBs are waiting to buy this gem. Once they have picked up enough, they will issue new reports to say time to buy, with many reasons that they now will not say. Remember the lady analyst from KE many years ago who said Valuetronics is worth only about 10 cents. I picked from those who believed her. Sold off at 1 dollar plus I think abour 2 years later. Sometimes I wonder why CAD don' t investigate if there are collusions between stock broking houses when issuing buy or sell reports?

 

wabc end 575
- wabc tgt near w4 575
new up wave going to start
​ day cloud support 575
day chart

 

Lack of info to judge.. we dunno how significantly lower is their lower for FY2021 vs 2020.. we dunno whether their customers are jumping ship permanently to other suppliers or temporarily.. lack of these info cannot give us a good judgement.. we just have to bear in mind they have 44cents cash which will offer support (just few mths ago market irrationally priced it as 40+ cents during march).. but note that of the 1billion hk dollars cash they have, they probably would be spending couple of hundred millions hk dollars for capital investment on their vietnam site

ferarri79      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 19:31) Posted: so wat would be ur price for this stock? nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 18:59) Posted: U guys have to look carefully at the commentary in the financial report.. 2 sentences that spook investors is one saying its their biggest challenge for the current operating environment, and another is they expect FY2021 to be significantly poorer vs FY2020.. the thing is their current customer once they jump ship, it is hard to win them back i think cos it is abt long term stable supply chain for their customers.. but then again, valuetronics got 44cents cash.. now price is 15 cents ex-cash.. assuming 50% drop in profit next yr, still p/e less than 5 in ex-cash term basis.. analysts like to value fu yu highly and keep saying they are cash rich and value fu yu based on ex-cash p/e.. this valuetronics those analyst double standard lol

 

That was the vietnamese analyst who gave tp 25cents and value one of their business segment as 0 value and ignore their cash on hand at that time which is around 20+ cents.. i did not dare to jeep that time after her report causing the crash, then subsequently went in at 40+ cents slowly.. holding for 5 years alr and getting stable dividends.. but valuetronics latest commentary kinda spook me.. although they got really strong cash, but dunno how significantly lower is their definition of lower for FY2021 vs 2020

nott1965      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 19:17) Posted: My experience teaches me that to win in the stock market, one needs to study psychology and remain calm when prices go up or down. I am sure many BBs are waiting to buy this gem. Once they have picked up enough, they will issue new reports to say time to buy, with many reasons that they now will not say. Remember the lady analyst from KE many years ago who said Valuetronics is worth only about 10 cents. I picked from those who believed her. Sold off at 1 dollar plus I think abour 2 years later. Sometimes I wonder why CAD don' t investigate if there are collusions between stock broking houses when issuing buy or sell reports?

 

so wat would be ur price for this stock?

nqing87      ( Date: 05-Jun-2020 18:59) Posted: U guys have to look carefully at the commentary in the financial report.. 2 sentences that spook investors is one saying its their biggest challenge for the current operating environment, and another is they expect FY2021 to be significantly poorer vs FY2020.. the thing is their current customer once they jump ship, it is hard to win them back i think cos it is abt long term stable supply chain for their customers.. but then again, valuetronics got 44cents cash.. now price is 15 cents ex-cash.. assuming 50% drop in profit next yr, still p/e less than 5 in ex-cash term basis.. analysts like to value fu yu highly and keep saying they are cash rich and value fu yu based on ex-cash p/e.. this valuetronics those analyst double standard lol

 

My experience teaches me that to win in the stock market, one needs to study psychology and remain calm when prices go up or down.

I am sure many BBs are waiting to buy this gem. Once they have picked up enough, they will issue new reports to say time to buy, with many reasons that they now will not say.

Remember the lady analyst from KE many years ago who said Valuetronics is worth only about 10 cents. I picked from those who believed her. Sold off at 1 dollar plus I think abour 2 years later.

Sometimes I wonder why CAD don' t investigate if there are collusions between stock broking houses when issuing buy or sell reports?