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AddLuck
    09-Sep-2014 21:15  
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A note on RTO: Business may be ok.The share px is a different thing altogether.Speculators do the pump and dump themselves.....not the co who is attempting the RTO!!!

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 21:07) Posted:

10:1. Peak was above 0.09. If 10:1 should be at least 90 cents. Many were having high hope and sure will go past $1. But now not even half. Those who bought above 90 then lost 50%. Its a con RTO

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:57) Posted:



W corp is share consol issit? 5:1 or 10:1?? 

 


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 21:15  
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U so sure mah? Did JL sell his Scorpio east stakes at high?

 

pippo0305      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 21:12) Posted:

Yeah.. JL, kum, all haven sell a single lot.. If they were to sell, of course sell at previous high ma.. Now they also can't sell.. So it's still in tact. Just that the previous bb let us small player play..

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 21:06) Posted:



he is a major shareholder ( 5% above).......he must report if he sells off.......


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 21:14  
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Mr JL is not stupid not to know that. If he truly wants to sell he will have a way to find loophole de bro....

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 21:06) Posted:



he is a major shareholder ( 5% above).......he must report if he sells off.......

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:55) Posted:



Siao meh, got too much money also can donate to charity mah, or just go casino faster way of distributing wealth why go thru this kinda cek ark thing, con hundreds of retailers hard earn $ away, pump to 5c then toh back to 2c, make ple lose half their fortunes, if that' s what they are doing they going to have bad karma, they better had some BIG plan in mind. Don' t one day let me find out that JL is selling his stakes becos can' t get what he want just like Scorpio east like that. Now Scorpio east biz is dying and property biz is not getting anywhere. I remember lucky boy mentioned something like JL can' t be the substantial shareholder in Scorpio east so eventually sold his stakes? But why must JL be the controlling shareholder?.. And in this case adventus he is no longer the controlling shareholder. Is he quietly selling off???


 

 
pippo0305
    09-Sep-2014 21:12  
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Yeah.. JL, kum, all haven sell a single lot.. If they were to sell, of course sell at previous high ma.. Now they also can't sell.. So it's still in tact. Just that the previous bb let us small player play..

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 21:06) Posted:



he is a major shareholder ( 5% above).......he must report if he sells off.......

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:55) Posted:



Siao meh, got too much money also can donate to charity mah, or just go casino faster way of distributing wealth why go thru this kinda cek ark thing, con hundreds of retailers hard earn $ away, pump to 5c then toh back to 2c, make ple lose half their fortunes, if that' s what they are doing they going to have bad karma, they better had some BIG plan in mind. Don' t one day let me find out that JL is selling his stakes becos can' t get what he want just like Scorpio east like that. Now Scorpio east biz is dying and property biz is not getting anywhere. I remember lucky boy mentioned something like JL can' t be the substantial shareholder in Scorpio east so eventually sold his stakes? But why must JL be the controlling shareholder?.. And in this case adventus he is no longer the controlling shareholder. Is he quietly selling off???


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 21:11  
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RTO also can call the shots mah... Unless this CBC doesn' t have enough funds to RTO? Maybe he only can pay 1.7c per share total $14mil to gain control of adventus first? Then JL ropes in ms kum ping Wei to assist CBC to raise funds... ..? I can' t think anymore, my mind is very tired....

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 21:00) Posted:



You do placement to become no 1( in his case) and what more with your kakis.......together with them you call the shots in the meeting and pass all resolutions like nobody' s business.....with little objections......then go on as planned by him........if there' s already one.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:43) Posted:



I know what u meant bro, RTO saves costs, time and less stricter compliance, and usually share consolidation will follow. What I meant is why not directly RTO his hotel businesses into adventus instead of doing placement first. What' s the rationale? Sorrie I' m not too good in analysis.


 
 
doufei
    09-Sep-2014 21:08  
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Cross finger now. Pray that he is not selling.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 21:03) Posted:



I dunno yet bro, until I get confirmation first that he is not selling then I let u know again. 

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:58) Posted:

Siow liao if he is quietly selling. No hope liao then, drop to 1 cent also cannot buy.


 

 
doufei
    09-Sep-2014 21:07  
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10:1. Peak was above 0.09. If 10:1 should be at least 90 cents. Many were having high hope and sure will go past $1. But now not even half. Those who bought above 90 then lost 50%. Its a con RTO

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:57) Posted:



W corp is share consol issit? 5:1 or 10:1?? 

 

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:47) Posted:

Even RTO does not mean will huat. Look at W corp now. Based on peak of 90 and now its only 49.5


 
 
AddLuck
    09-Sep-2014 21:06  
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he is a major shareholder ( 5% above).......he must report if he sells off.......

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:55) Posted:



Siao meh, got too much money also can donate to charity mah, or just go casino faster way of distributing wealth why go thru this kinda cek ark thing, con hundreds of retailers hard earn $ away, pump to 5c then toh back to 2c, make ple lose half their fortunes, if that' s what they are doing they going to have bad karma, they better had some BIG plan in mind. Don' t one day let me find out that JL is selling his stakes becos can' t get what he want just like Scorpio east like that. Now Scorpio east biz is dying and property biz is not getting anywhere. I remember lucky boy mentioned something like JL can' t be the substantial shareholder in Scorpio east so eventually sold his stakes? But why must JL be the controlling shareholder?.. And in this case adventus he is no longer the controlling shareholder. Is he quietly selling off???

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Very likely is point 1. They are too rich, got plenty of money to burn.


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 21:03  
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I dunno yet bro, until I get confirmation first that he is not selling then I let u know again. 

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:58) Posted:

Siow liao if he is quietly selling. No hope liao then, drop to 1 cent also cannot buy.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:55) Posted:



Siao meh, got too much money also can donate to charity mah, or just go casino faster way of distributing wealth why go thru this kinda cek ark thing, con hundreds of retailers hard earn $ away, pump to 5c then toh back to 2c, make ple lose half their fortunes, if that' s what they are doing they going to have bad karma, they better had some BIG plan in mind. Don' t one day let me find out that JL is selling his stakes becos can' t get what he want just like Scorpio east like that. Now Scorpio east biz is dying and property biz is not getting anywhere. I remember lucky boy mentioned something like JL can' t be the substantial shareholder in Scorpio east so eventually sold his stakes? But why must JL be the controlling shareholder?.. And in this case adventus he is no longer the controlling shareholder. Is he quietly selling off???


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 21:01  
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Bro I' m surprised u lost on LG, didn' t u make a lot when LG cheong above 10c & u sold?

u go bottomfish issit? Looks like no sarpork for LG now lei, Jin chamz. 

cccx123      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:

MemstarT, Adventus, all these potential for RTO plays. Think the trio also. Blumont formerly adroit, liongold formerly thinkenv and gsh formerly Jel? Can't remember... I lost quite a bit on Liongold helping support at 6.5cts so yea... Now waiting for bottom then buy again.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:25) Posted:



Anyone ever heard of big investor firstly buys into an empty shell thru placement & then RTO his own businesses inside? That is real strange. 

paiseh, I never heard before. This CBC invests into this huge empty shell then became director then JL resign then takes his own hotel businesses to list back door? Is that it? Why go thru such a wide circle if u can just directly RTO from the start? I don' t understand it.


 

 
AddLuck
    09-Sep-2014 21:00  
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You do placement to become no 1( in his case) and what more with your kakis.......together with them you call the shots in the meeting and pass all resolutions like nobody' s business.....with little objections......then go on as planned by him........if there' s already one.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:43) Posted:



I know what u meant bro, RTO saves costs, time and less stricter compliance, and usually share consolidation will follow. What I meant is why not directly RTO his hotel businesses into adventus instead of doing placement first. What' s the rationale? Sorrie I' m not too good in analysis.

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:35) Posted:



Sorry. Meant to be a normal listing.


 
 
doufei
    09-Sep-2014 20:58  
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Siow liao if he is quietly selling. No hope liao then, drop to 1 cent also cannot buy.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:55) Posted:



Siao meh, got too much money also can donate to charity mah, or just go casino faster way of distributing wealth why go thru this kinda cek ark thing, con hundreds of retailers hard earn $ away, pump to 5c then toh back to 2c, make ple lose half their fortunes, if that' s what they are doing they going to have bad karma, they better had some BIG plan in mind. Don' t one day let me find out that JL is selling his stakes becos can' t get what he want just like Scorpio east like that. Now Scorpio east biz is dying and property biz is not getting anywhere. I remember lucky boy mentioned something like JL can' t be the substantial shareholder in Scorpio east so eventually sold his stakes? But why must JL be the controlling shareholder?.. And in this case adventus he is no longer the controlling shareholder. Is he quietly selling off???

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Very likely is point 1. They are too rich, got plenty of money to burn.


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 20:57  
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W corp is share consol issit? 5:1 or 10:1?? 

 

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:47) Posted:

Even RTO does not mean will huat. Look at W corp now. Based on peak of 90 and now its only 49.5.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Knn u just lost more than 50% overnight, then still dare buy rubbish stocks like that now?

u so sure adventus will not fail like the rest did?

honestly how many RTO can succeed big unless there is a huge investor backing. 

Even now, I' m losing more than 40% on this adventus, fast on the bankrupt track liao.


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 20:55  
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Siao meh, got too much money also can donate to charity mah, or just go casino faster way of distributing wealth why go thru this kinda cek ark thing, con hundreds of retailers hard earn $ away, pump to 5c then toh back to 2c, make ple lose half their fortunes, if that' s what they are doing they going to have bad karma, they better had some BIG plan in mind. Don' t one day let me find out that JL is selling his stakes becos can' t get what he want just like Scorpio east like that. Now Scorpio east biz is dying and property biz is not getting anywhere. I remember lucky boy mentioned something like JL can' t be the substantial shareholder in Scorpio east so eventually sold his stakes? But why must JL be the controlling shareholder?.. And in this case adventus he is no longer the controlling shareholder. Is he quietly selling off???

doufei      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Very likely is point 1. They are too rich, got plenty of money to burn.

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:14) Posted:



Let' s give some small thoughts and some scenerios:

1)CBC and Ms Kum threw in   $14 mil and $6 mil, respectively and become major shareholders because they are too rich and this is one good way of burning money.......they know this is a no hope and dying co!!!.......and they discard their warrants.....in the end , they are satisfied because this is a novel way of burning money!!!

2)CBC and Ms Kum have intention to pump and dump and convert their shares and distribute out. Need to pump extreme high price in order that they can covert and sell out considering there are 220 mil warrants oustanding between the 3 or 4 major shareholders. Price need to be HIGH for slow distribution....which will result in steady decline of px to nothingness.Of course, they have 120 days left to achieve this.......and take all investors for a ride.

3) CBC and Ms Kum pumped in a total of $20 mil in the hope that the existing business and their new Green Energy business make a turnaround and become big time business......which I am sure everybody and they themselves think.....FAT HOPE!!!......and what more take a risk with $20 mil buck for such a gamble.

4)CBC and Ms Kum pumped in a total $ 20 mil,one will hunt for funds and the other may consolidate his property businesses into one and list backdoor to become a property counter and hope to become billionaires.....because they bouy tahan seeing a few of their contemporaries and now bosses of Ho Bee, Fragrance and Soilbuild all become billionaires in few short years.

5)......any more contributions?????

 

 

 


 
 
doufei
    09-Sep-2014 20:48  
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佩 服 您 , bro. Wish you huat!

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:44) Posted:



Bro

I call this risk taking......even if i lose all.....it' s my doing.....am satisfied....just failed, that' s all......won' t blame anybody...

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Knn u just lost more than 50% overnight, then still dare buy rubbish stocks like that now?

u so sure adventus will not fail like the rest did?

honestly how many RTO can succeed big unless there is a huge investor backing. 

Even now, I' m losing more than 40% on this adventus, fast on the bankrupt track liao.


 

 
doufei
    09-Sep-2014 20:47  
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Even RTO does not mean will huat. Look at W corp now. Based on peak of 90 and now its only 49.5.

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Knn u just lost more than 50% overnight, then still dare buy rubbish stocks like that now?

u so sure adventus will not fail like the rest did?

honestly how many RTO can succeed big unless there is a huge investor backing. 

Even now, I' m losing more than 40% on this adventus, fast on the bankrupt track liao.

pippo0305      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:19) Posted:



Spivvy, I' m with you. This year feb, i bought Ocean sky at 26c. it dropped suddenly all the way to 17c on the very same day after i bought then it halted.. cant sleep the whole night. The next day opened at 11.5c! Faster sold off before it closed at 9.9c. 


 
 
pippo0305
    09-Sep-2014 20:46  
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High 5! Let's addluck together. The more ppl get together, the luckier we will become. Huat ar!

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:44) Posted:



Bro

I call this risk taking......even if i lose all.....it' s my doing.....am satisfied....just failed, that' s all......won' t blame anybody...

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Knn u just lost more than 50% overnight, then still dare buy rubbish stocks like that now?

u so sure adventus will not fail like the rest did?

honestly how many RTO can succeed big unless there is a huge investor backing. 

Even now, I' m losing more than 40% on this adventus, fast on the bankrupt track liao.


 
 
AddLuck
    09-Sep-2014 20:44  
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Bro

I call this risk taking......even if i lose all.....it' s my doing.....am satisfied....just failed, that' s all......won' t blame anybody...

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Knn u just lost more than 50% overnight, then still dare buy rubbish stocks like that now?

u so sure adventus will not fail like the rest did?

honestly how many RTO can succeed big unless there is a huge investor backing. 

Even now, I' m losing more than 40% on this adventus, fast on the bankrupt track liao.

pippo0305      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:19) Posted:



Spivvy, I' m with you. This year feb, i bought Ocean sky at 26c. it dropped suddenly all the way to 17c on the very same day after i bought then it halted.. cant sleep the whole night. The next day opened at 11.5c! Faster sold off before it closed at 9.9c. 


 
 
Spivvy
    09-Sep-2014 20:43  
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I know what u meant bro, RTO saves costs, time and less stricter compliance, and usually share consolidation will follow. What I meant is why not directly RTO his hotel businesses into adventus instead of doing placement first. What' s the rationale? Sorrie I' m not too good in analysis.

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:35) Posted:



Sorry. Meant to be a normal listing.

AddLuck      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:34) Posted:



Bro,

A normal RTO( that' s why it is called a REVERSE TAkeover) can take almost up to a year or 2 to just happen and you will spend a bomb for it to happen.......trust me ....been there before when working for one.

Did you see   one is trying on OLS???......check out the SGX disclosure on OLS.......and many other takeovers .....this is the fastest route. Btw, care to add item 5 to my last post?????


 
 
pippo0305
    09-Sep-2014 20:43  
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Spivvy bro, thanks for scolding.. Admit that I'm taking risk. Whatever thing we do, we are taking risk.. Just that there's high n low risk.. High n low return..

Spivvy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:36) Posted:



Knn u just lost more than 50% overnight, then still dare buy rubbish stocks like that now?

u so sure adventus will not fail like the rest did?

honestly how many RTO can succeed big unless there is a huge investor backing. 

Even now, I' m losing more than 40% on this adventus, fast on the bankrupt track liao.

pippo0305      ( Date: 09-Sep-2014 20:19) Posted:



Spivvy, I' m with you. This year feb, i bought Ocean sky at 26c. it dropped suddenly all the way to 17c on the very same day after i bought then it halted.. cant sleep the whole night. The next day opened at 11.5c! Faster sold off before it closed at 9.9c. 


 
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