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halleluyah
    24-Dec-2016 11:43  
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Senile liao...forgotten wat he cakap earlier on...lol

destinykraze      ( Date: 24-Dec-2016 00:06) Posted:



you have cognitive dissonance or what? You just said you would not be surprised to see StarHub drop to $1.5-$1.7 in 2017.

Then how can starhub be a safe buy in price at $2.30~$2.50.

You are contradicting yourself. Are you trolling?

 

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 15:36) Posted:

If TPG ropes in Telstra for Singapore market , expect M1 Starhub to drop by - 15% at least.
(Singtel go Australia for Optus...)
Now is ....: )


 
 
dc16888
    24-Dec-2016 11:38  
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This type is a real life loser la.

destinykraze      ( Date: 24-Dec-2016 00:06) Posted:



you have cognitive dissonance or what? You just said you would not be surprised to see StarHub drop to $1.5-$1.7 in 2017.

Then how can starhub be a safe buy in price at $2.30~$2.50.

You are contradicting yourself. Are you trolling?

 

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 15:36) Posted:

If TPG ropes in Telstra for Singapore market , expect M1 Starhub to drop by - 15% at least.
(Singtel go Australia for Optus...)
Now is ....: )


 
 
destinykraze
    24-Dec-2016 00:06  
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you have cognitive dissonance or what? You just said you would not be surprised to see StarHub drop to $1.5-$1.7 in 2017.

Then how can starhub be a safe buy in price at $2.30~$2.50.

You are contradicting yourself. Are you trolling?

 

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 15:36) Posted:

If TPG ropes in Telstra for Singapore market , expect M1 Starhub to drop by - 15% at least.
(Singtel go Australia for Optus...)
Now is ....: )6

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 15:01) Posted:

I said it before , can only safely buy Starhub at $2.30 ~ 2.50.

Once TPG roll out their business, let's see how market reacts.

License awarded starhub price already adjusted from $3 to $2 80.

When actual business war starts , see who can do the business better.



 

 
amandayoung
    23-Dec-2016 15:36  
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If TPG ropes in Telstra for Singapore market , expect M1 Starhub to drop by - 15% at least.
(Singtel go Australia for Optus...)
Now is ....: )6

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 15:01) Posted:

I said it before , can only safely buy Starhub at $2.30 ~ 2.50.

Once TPG roll out their business, let's see how market reacts.

License awarded starhub price already adjusted from $3 to $2 80.

When actual business war starts , see who can do the business better.


 
 
amandayoung
    23-Dec-2016 15:01  
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I said it before , can only safely buy Starhub at $2.30 ~ 2.50.

Once TPG roll out their business, let's see how market reacts.

License awarded starhub price already adjusted from $3 to $2 80.

When actual business war starts , see who can do the business better.

 
 
jeremyow
    23-Dec-2016 14:47  
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http://www.fool.sg/2016/02/18/can-starhub-ltd-sustain-its-current-dividend/

Yes. Agree that the 20 cents dividends may not be sustainable going into next year. See the article by the Motley Fool for a discussion on the factors which could affect the sustainability of Starhub' s dividends. Pls note that this discussion provides us some important factors to think about concerning the sustainability of amount of dividends payout by Starhub and is not conclusive that Starhub' s dividends payout will decline next year. We will only know by next year whether the dividends payout will decline or not.  

elea88      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 12:04) Posted:



the 20 cent div might not be sustainable...

desmondquek      ( Date: 17-Dec-2016 10:45) Posted:



1 year dividend 20cent...6-7% yield...


 

 
seanpent
    23-Dec-2016 13:31  
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very sensible and  logical view yes

destinykraze      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 13:29) Posted:



Obviously, you are not very good at macro business.
go think about these pts first.
How much market share can they handle. Even my republic said they would be aiming for 5% of market share.
Most customers already on several year contracts, how much loss they would incur if they tried price war with 3 existing incumbent
Singapore market is so small, why pay so much for the bid ($105m) then plan for 3-5 year of loss making.

If price wars really happen because TPG really stupid. the more likely scenario would be m1 and tpg kamikaze together.

You think all investors are stupid?

 

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 12:25) Posted:

If i were TPG, my game plan would be :
1. Rope in a strong telco backer
2. Price war with best value price plans ... they do $50 for this dataplan, we do $35 ....

Get market share with tied up contracts 1st...1st 3 years making small losses is ok....

Then gradually fine tune after getting a sizeable market share....

The current situation is : starhub singtel m1 do fail consumers in one way or anothe


 
 
destinykraze
    23-Dec-2016 13:29  
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Obviously, you are not very good at macro business.
go think about these pts first.
How much market share can they handle. Even my republic said they would be aiming for 5% of market share.
Most customers already on several year contracts, how much loss they would incur if they tried price war with 3 existing incumbent
Singapore market is so small, why pay so much for the bid ($105m) then plan for 3-5 year of loss making.

If price wars really happen because TPG really stupid. the more likely scenario would be m1 and tpg kamikaze together.

You think all investors are stupid?

 

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 12:25) Posted:

If i were TPG, my game plan would be :
1. Rope in a strong telco backer
2. Price war with best value price plans ... they do $50 for this dataplan, we do $35 ....

Get market share with tied up contracts 1st...1st 3 years making small losses is ok....

Then gradually fine tune after getting a sizeable market share....

The current situation is : starhub singtel m1 do fail consumers in one way or another

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 12:14) Posted:

To say with the entry of the 4th Telco TPG, Starhub M1 have no impact is

Self - Deceiving

Market Size is ONLY so big, the cake size

You share with 3 players and you share with 4 players there is for sure a difference in market share

If TPG performs well, impact will be HUGE

TPG maybe small player from Australia, but if they rope in say Fox , PCCW, O2 ....
they can have better game play


 
 
amandayoung
    23-Dec-2016 12:25  
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If i were TPG, my game plan would be :
1. Rope in a strong telco backer
2. Price war with best value price plans ... they do $50 for this dataplan, we do $35 ....

Get market share with tied up contracts 1st...1st 3 years making small losses is ok....

Then gradually fine tune after getting a sizeable market share....

The current situation is : starhub singtel m1 do fail consumers in one way or another

amandayoung      ( Date: 23-Dec-2016 12:14) Posted:

To say with the entry of the 4th Telco TPG, Starhub M1 have no impact is

Self - Deceiving

Market Size is ONLY so big, the cake size

You share with 3 players and you share with 4 players there is for sure a difference in market share

If TPG performs well, impact will be HUGE

TPG maybe small player from Australia, but if they rope in say Fox , PCCW, O2 ....
they can have better game play

 
 
amandayoung
    23-Dec-2016 12:14  
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To say with the entry of the 4th Telco TPG, Starhub M1 have no impact is

Self - Deceiving

Market Size is ONLY so big, the cake size

You share with 3 players and you share with 4 players there is for sure a difference in market share

If TPG performs well, impact will be HUGE

TPG maybe small player from Australia, but if they rope in say Fox , PCCW, O2 ....
they can have better game play
 

 
elea88
    23-Dec-2016 12:04  
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the 20 cent div might not be sustainable...

desmondquek      ( Date: 17-Dec-2016 10:45) Posted:



1 year dividend 20cent...6-7% yield...

 
 
seanpent
    23-Dec-2016 11:15  
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yes

GreatHarvest      ( Date: 17-Dec-2016 12:43) Posted:



7% yield is attractive

 
 
seanpent
    23-Dec-2016 11:14  
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guess new entrant yet tested .....

now Starhub double bottoming, seems may see an imminent technical reversal .....

Goldfinger      ( Date: 15-Dec-2016 19:23) Posted:

Could be Virgin Mobile - bled and died shortly after launch???

chengwh1      ( Date: 15-Dec-2016 18:50) Posted:



Closed at 2.81 today ! Looking at how well it can do after this is important, since the fourth payer has finally been confirmed and announced officially. TPG may get the licence, but how about the cashflow to set everything up ?? A very big challenge there,......... recalled there was another telco player who tried earlier but failed.


 
 
GreatHarvest
    17-Dec-2016 12:43  
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7% yield is attractive
 
 
desmondquek
    17-Dec-2016 10:45  
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1 year dividend 20cent...6-7% yield...
 

 
amandayoung
    16-Dec-2016 01:19  
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i m still quite shocked when i learnt :

winning bid : $105 mil
losing bid : $102.5 mil

is so close (if electoral voting may need recount worrrr.....)

amandayoung      ( Date: 15-Dec-2016 20:59) Posted:

winning bid 105 mil vs losing bid 102 mil ?
agonizingly close
such a coincidence both think +/- 105 mil

let TPG rope in FOX as backer, or PCCW so that we have more TV and cable content

 
 
amandayoung
    15-Dec-2016 20:59  
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winning bid 105 mil vs losing bid 102 mil ?
agonizingly close
such a coincidence both think +/- 105 mil

let TPG rope in FOX as backer, or PCCW so that we have more TV and cable content
 
 
chengwh1
    15-Dec-2016 20:05  
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I think so,... that' s also an Australian one,.. I think,.....

Goldfinger      ( Date: 15-Dec-2016 19:23) Posted:

Could be Virgin Mobile - bled and died shortly after launch???

chengwh1      ( Date: 15-Dec-2016 18:50) Posted:



Closed at 2.81 today ! Looking at how well it can do after this is important, since the fourth payer has finally been confirmed and announced officially. TPG may get the licence, but how about the cashflow to set everything up ?? A very big challenge there,......... recalled there was another telco player who tried earlier but failed.


 
 
Goldfinger
    15-Dec-2016 19:23  
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Could be Virgin Mobile - bled and died shortly after launch???

chengwh1      ( Date: 15-Dec-2016 18:50) Posted:



Closed at 2.81 today ! Looking at how well it can do after this is important, since the fourth payer has finally been confirmed and announced officially. TPG may get the licence, but how about the cashflow to set everything up ?? A very big challenge there,......... recalled there was another telco player who tried earlier but failed.

 
 
chengwh1
    15-Dec-2016 18:50  
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Closed at 2.81 today ! Looking at how well it can do after this is important, since the fourth payer has finally been confirmed and announced officially. TPG may get the licence, but how about the cashflow to set everything up ?? A very big challenge there,......... recalled there was another telco player who tried earlier but failed.
 
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