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Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K)
0.410 11,804.6 0.415 6,849.2
0.405 11,898.4 0.420 6,826.7
0.400 11,025.4 0.425 5,483
0.395 7,983.9 0.430 4,030.6
0.390 6,285.6 0.435 4,766.1



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Dying to throw down?

Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K)
0.410 11,251.3 0.410 1,043.5
0.405 10,929.9 0.415 3,695.7
0.400 10,487.5 0.420 4,565.4
0.395 7,930.4 0.425 5,437.2
0.390 6,250.5 0.430 3,961.5


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Very disappointed management thinks so lowly of their own shares.
They just want to buy low like the shortsellers.


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I'm waiting for next year to see daylight.

Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K)
0.410 11,171.9 0.415 6,519
0.405 10,619.6 0.420 6,024.2
0.400 10,582.7 0.425 5,483.7
0.395 7,929.4 0.430 3,960.9
0.390 6,220.4 0.435 4,706
0.385 5,069.7 0.440 4,057.4
0.380 1,223 0.445 3,664.3
0.375 746.9 0.450 2,659.7

YZJFH infested with too many cockcroaches waiting to feed on the breadcrumbs thrown by contra buyers?



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baybefaze      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 10:22) Posted: People who aren' t owner of a stock should refrain from commenting, be it positive or negative, then there will be little or no " conflicts" in this forum. I can' t see in what way can the person with no holdings in the stock benefits  from his postings even if the stock rise or falls many folds.

 

As far as I am aware, FH only customer is Yangzijiang. 

They are trying to setup a fund and wealth management business but it is labelled as " Coming soon" .   Don' t believe, go take a look at their website. 

SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 10:24) Posted: No customers how to run business? Customers mainly from China. Thought they're acquiring something for their portfolio? Is it completed? Trade with ? and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 09:32) Posted: I did not say it is a shell company.  FH main business is debt management using it' s own money. I.e. low returns, no equity, just like any bank' s loan department.  It has a small investment arm, also using its own funds. It' s trying to start a non-existent fund and wealth management business that has zero customer at the moment.  When I compared it to a bank, you guys said it is an unfair comparison. Yes, it is unfair because it is an insult to most major banks as most of them now make more money from fund and wealth management. So if it isn' t a family office for Ren, then what is FH?   Tell me who are FH' s customers where they are actively managing their funds

 

No customers how to run business? Customers mainly from China.
Thought they're acquiring something for their portfolio? Is it completed?


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tpohwashere      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 09:32) Posted: I did not say it is a shell company.  FH main business is debt management using it' s own money. I.e. low returns, no equity, just like any bank' s loan department.  It has a small investment arm, also using its own funds. It' s trying to start a non-existent fund and wealth management business that has zero customer at the moment.  When I compared it to a bank, you guys said it is an unfair comparison. Yes, it is unfair because it is an insult to most major banks as most of them now make more money from fund and wealth management. So if it isn' t a family office for Ren, then what is FH?   Tell me who are FH' s customers where they are actively managing their funds? SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 08:28) Posted: Shell company? Got evidence? Report MAS? Trade with ? and DYODD

 

People who aren' t owner of a stock should refrain from commenting, be it positive or negative,
then there will be little or no " conflicts" in this forum.
I can' t see in what way can the person with no holdings in the stock benefits 
from his postings even if the stock rise or falls many folds.

 

I did not say it is a shell company. 

FH main business is debt management using it' s own money. I.e. low returns, no equity, just like any bank' s loan department. 

It has a small investment arm, also using its own funds. It' s trying to start a non-existent fund and wealth management business that has zero customer at the moment. 

When I compared it to a bank, you guys said it is an unfair comparison. Yes, it is unfair because it is an insult to most major banks as most of them now make more money from fund and wealth management.

So if it isn' t a family office for Ren, then what is FH?   Tell me who are FH' s customers where they are actively managing their funds?

SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 08:28) Posted: Shell company? Got evidence? Report MAS? Trade with ? and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 23:50) Posted: YJZFH is not rally an investment " company" .   It has zero customer and the source of fund is itself.   It functions more like a family office for the Ren family so if you guys still think that Ren is going to spend serious money on SBB, then think again.

 

One more cent to 40. Powerless management.

Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K)
0.410 6,298.8 0.415 4,131
0.405 8,251.9 0.420 5,722.9
0.400 7,954.6 0.425 5,933
0.395 7,281.2 0.430 4,531
0.390 4,759.8 0.435 4,910.4
0.385 4,572.6 0.440 4,159.7
0.380 933.4 0.445 3,674.1
0.375 226.8 0.450 2,689.7


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35 mil in front of me to pick 390.

hokpin      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 08:00) Posted: I q 390 today to show my support! SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 16:43) Posted: 39 is not possible. Contra buyers and margin buyers all got burnt badly while shortsellers taking their time to buyback. YZJFH is pure haven for shortsellers and management can only watch from sideline. Trade with personal thoughts and DYODD

 

Will EDB support the shell company? How do those veteran from SGX, MAS...think?

SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 08:28) Posted: Shell company? Got evidence? Report MAS? Trade with ? and DYODD tpohwashere      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 23:50) Posted: YJZFH is not rally an investment " company" .   It has zero customer and the source of fund is itself.   It functions more like a family office for the Ren family so if you guys still think that Ren is going to spend serious money on SBB, then think again.

 

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Bid Bid Vol(K) Ask Ask Vol(K)
0.415 6,441.8 0.415 1,034.7
0.410 8,468.4 0.420 1,752.1
0.405 8,281.5 0.425 6,039.1
0.400 7,414.9 0.430 4,400.7
0.395 6,798.6 0.435 4,474.8
0.390 4,572.6 0.440 4,136.1
0.385 2,547.4 0.445 3,674.1
0.380 858.2 0.450 3,267.6


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hokpin      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 08:00) Posted: I q 390 today to show my support! SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 16:43) Posted: 39 is not possible. Contra buyers and margin buyers all got burnt badly while shortsellers taking their time to buyback. YZJFH is pure haven for shortsellers and management can only watch from sideline. Trade with personal thoughts and DYODD

 

Shell company? Got evidence? Report MAS?


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tpohwashere      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 23:50) Posted: YJZFH is not rally an investment " company" .   It has zero customer and the source of fund is itself.   It functions more like a family office for the Ren family so if you guys still think that Ren is going to spend serious money on SBB, then think again.   volvo125      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 18:33) Posted: Fully agree with you. I believe Toe is a very experienced and competent fund manager but as a ceo running a listco for the first time and handling a sbb exercise for the first time too, my observation tells me repeatedly that he is probably clueless on how to fully capitalise on the powerful $200mil sbb program to boost share prices, strengthen investor confidence and ultimately leads to an increase in eps. It is really disappointing on how the irregular nature of the sbb is being conducted at the current severely declining share prices in just a very short period of ~2 weeks.  TR disposal could be due to that they cannot tahan the price kena stuck too long at 0.4+ with a very obvious sub par sbb execution not going anywhere. If this is indeed the case, then YFH is going into a very cold and chilling winter as TR has a total of 269mil shares to dispose, that is, 72mil more to first bring its holding below its SSH 5% level, then a further 197mil which TR could sell without notifying SGX. Uncle Ren need to lobby TR to hold back on its further disposal and Toe seriously need to step up his sbb execution with more productive and meaningful impacts. Whether TR is just rebalancing its holding, or indeed exiting, we will know in the days ahead to see if there are more announcement on further disposals. I really hope not .... The way the sbb is currently being handled when the share price is coming under severe distressed with no news, is like .... giving Toe a T5 Swedish made Volvo with 300bhp but he knn drives it like a Msian made 800cc Kancil .... speechless ...

 

I think u are spot on with what is happening to this company. Thank u.

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Jun-2022 07:25) Posted: Besically Ren family hind their generated profit from YJZ Ship in YJZFH.   Hope to " export" their $ to Singapore YJZH from China.   Unloading the YJZH shares is as good as cash out their $ from China.     Evergrade and many brankrupted China Companies did the same thing.   tpohwashere      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 23:50) Posted: YJZFH is not rally an investment " company" .   It has zero customer and the source of fund is itself.   It functions more like a family office for the Ren family so if you guys still think that Ren is going to spend serious money on SBB, then think again.

 

I q 390 today to show my support!

SAVIORFOREVER      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 16:43) Posted: 39 is not possible. Contra buyers and margin buyers all got burnt badly while shortsellers taking their time to buyback. YZJFH is pure haven for shortsellers and management can only watch from sideline. Trade with personal thoughts and DYODD Stocky901      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 16:38) Posted: --- Post Removed by User ---

 

Besically Ren family hind their generated profit from YJZ Ship in YJZFH.   Hope to " export" their $ to Singapore YJZH from China.   Unloading the YJZH shares is as good as cash out their $ from China.     Evergrade and many brankrupted China Companies did the same thing.  

tpohwashere      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 23:50) Posted: YJZFH is not rally an investment " company" .   It has zero customer and the source of fund is itself.   It functions more like a family office for the Ren family so if you guys still think that Ren is going to spend serious money on SBB, then think again.   volvo125      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 18:33) Posted: Fully agree with you. I believe Toe is a very experienced and competent fund manager but as a ceo running a listco for the first time and handling a sbb exercise for the first time too, my observation tells me repeatedly that he is probably clueless on how to fully capitalise on the powerful $200mil sbb program to boost share prices, strengthen investor confidence and ultimately leads to an increase in eps. It is really disappointing on how the irregular nature of the sbb is being conducted at the current severely declining share prices in just a very short period of ~2 weeks.  TR disposal could be due to that they cannot tahan the price kena stuck too long at 0.4+ with a very obvious sub par sbb execution not going anywhere. If this is indeed the case, then YFH is going into a very cold and chilling winter as TR has a total of 269mil shares to dispose, that is, 72mil more to first bring its holding below its SSH 5% level, then a further 197mil which TR could sell without notifying SGX. Uncle Ren need to lobby TR to hold back on its further disposal and Toe seriously need to step up his sbb execution with more productive and meaningful impacts. Whether TR is just rebalancing its holding, or indeed exiting, we will know in the days ahead to see if there are more announcement on further disposals. I really hope not .... The way the sbb is currently being handled when the share price is coming under severe distressed with no news, is like .... giving Toe a T5 Swedish made Volvo with 300bhp but he knn drives it like a Msian made 800cc Kancil .... speechless ...

 

YJZFH is not rally an investment " company" .   It has zero customer and the source of fund is itself.  

It functions more like a family office for the Ren family so if you guys still think that Ren is going to spend serious money on SBB, then think again.

 

volvo125      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 18:33) Posted: Fully agree with you. I believe Toe is a very experienced and competent fund manager but as a ceo running a listco for the first time and handling a sbb exercise for the first time too, my observation tells me repeatedly that he is probably clueless on how to fully capitalise on the powerful $200mil sbb program to boost share prices, strengthen investor confidence and ultimately leads to an increase in eps. It is really disappointing on how the irregular nature of the sbb is being conducted at the current severely declining share prices in just a very short period of ~2 weeks.  TR disposal could be due to that they cannot tahan the price kena stuck too long at 0.4+ with a very obvious sub par sbb execution not going anywhere. If this is indeed the case, then YFH is going into a very cold and chilling winter as TR has a total of 269mil shares to dispose, that is, 72mil more to first bring its holding below its SSH 5% level, then a further 197mil which TR could sell without notifying SGX. Uncle Ren need to lobby TR to hold back on its further disposal and Toe seriously need to step up his sbb execution with more productive and meaningful impacts. Whether TR is just rebalancing its holding, or indeed exiting, we will know in the days ahead to see if there are more announcement on further disposals. I really hope not .... The way the sbb is currently being handled when the share price is coming under severe distressed with no news, is like .... giving Toe a T5 Swedish made Volvo with 300bhp but he knn drives it like a Msian made 800cc Kancil .... speechless ...   MambaFinancial89      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 17:21) Posted: Equally surprised by their strategy, or lack thereof. I was originally surprised by the proactiveness and transparency to disclose an amount (S$200m) reserved for their share buybacks which is rare for SGX-listed companies. This clarity has quickly turned into confusion by the on and off buybacks at various prices. Investors prefer a share buyback strategy that is sustained  over a period of time to effectively signal to the market that their shares are undervalued. Vested. Averaged down at 0.425 with Macquarie as the counterparty.

 

Fully agree with you.

I believe Toe is a very experienced and competent fund manager but as a ceo running a listco for the first time and handling a sbb exercise for the first time too, my observation tells me repeatedly that he is probably clueless on how to fully capitalise on the powerful $200mil sbb program to boost share prices, strengthen investor confidence and ultimately leads to an increase in eps. It is really disappointing on how the irregular nature of the sbb is being conducted at the current severely declining share prices in just a very short period of ~2 weeks. 

TR disposal could be due to that they cannot tahan the price kena stuck too long at 0.4+ with a very obvious sub par sbb execution not going anywhere. If this is indeed the case, then YFH is going into a very cold and chilling winter as TR has a total of 269mil shares to dispose, that is, 72mil more to first bring its holding below its SSH 5% level, then a further 197mil which TR could sell without notifying SGX. Uncle Ren need to lobby TR to hold back on its further disposal and Toe seriously need to step up his sbb execution with more productive and meaningful impacts.

Whether TR is just rebalancing its holding, or indeed exiting, we will know in the days ahead to see if there are more announcement on further disposals. I really hope not ....

The way the sbb is currently being handled when the share price is coming under severe distressed with no news, is like .... giving Toe a T5 Swedish made Volvo with 300bhp but he knn drives it like a Msian made 800cc Kancil .... speechless ...

 

MambaFinancial89      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 17:21) Posted: Equally surprised by their strategy, or lack thereof. I was originally surprised by the proactiveness and transparency to disclose an amount (S$200m) reserved for their share buybacks which is rare for SGX-listed companies. This clarity has quickly turned into confusion by the on and off buybacks at various prices. Investors prefer a share buyback strategy that is sustained  over a period of time to effectively signal to the market that their shares are undervalued. Vested. Averaged down at 0.425 with Macquarie as the counterparty.

 

Agreed. They also have insider (ID) buying which would reflect well. The lower the share price, the better the indicative yield on the stock (with the premise that they are able to deliver similar EPS as last FY and > 40% payout ratio. As is currently, it is c.8.5% yield though conscious that this is a rising rates environment where we' ve seen investment banks recently issuing 5-year callable perps at > 9% coupon.

MambaFinancial89      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 17:40) Posted: Equally surprised by their strategy, or lack thereof. I was originally surprised by the proactiveness and transparency to disclose an amount (S$200m) reserved for their share buybacks which is rare for SGX-listed companies. This clarity has quickly turned into confusion by the on and off buybacks at various prices. Investors prefer a share buyback strategy that is  sustained    over a period of time to effectively  signal  to the market that their shares are undervalued. Vested. Averaged down at 0.425 with Macquarie as the counterparty.  n3wbie      ( Date: 29-Jun-2022 17:10) Posted: Also not entirely sure what their buyback strategy is - they were buying consistently for a couple of days (similar to what YZJSB used to do previously) but stopped as the selling continued. Prob more insti selling as seen with T Rowe Price divesting 8.58M shares at 43c last Fri (as announced ytd) where they reduced their stake from 7.05% to 6.83%.

 

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