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TheDuellist
    27-May-2020 08:58  
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That is what the broad market expects....if there is a fire sale coming, why Buy now, right?

But remember, many big houses will be there as well. Many are waiting.....but how many can beat the market? Also not forgetting SSH55% would most likely be at the battlefield as well.
 

TA_Expert      ( Date: 27-May-2020 08:36) Posted:

The real show is in Jun after the rights merged with the main shares.

SmallSmall      ( Date: 27-May-2020 08:29) Posted:

Delta Airlines up 13%, United Airline up 16%, Lufthansa up 6.83% last night.
Is SIA going to take off today also? 


 
 
TA_Expert
    27-May-2020 08:39  
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US airlines have domestic flights. Once they opened up, these flights can resume.

Did you see the whole cabins are full of passengers? Quite scary.

As for SIA, she has no domestic flights. Now she can only bet that KQ can negotiate a deal with 4 countries for international flights with controlled measures in place.

SmallSmall      ( Date: 27-May-2020 08:29) Posted:

Delta Airlines up 13%, United Airline up 16%, Lufthansa up 6.83% last night.
Is SIA going to take off today also? 

 
 
TA_Expert
    27-May-2020 08:36  
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The real show is in Jun after the rights merged with the main shares.

SmallSmall      ( Date: 27-May-2020 08:29) Posted:

Delta Airlines up 13%, United Airline up 16%, Lufthansa up 6.83% last night.
Is SIA going to take off today also? 

 

 
SmallSmall
    27-May-2020 08:29  
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Delta Airlines up 13%, United Airline up 16%, Lufthansa up 6.83% last night.
Is SIA going to take off today also? 
 
 
TheDuellist
    26-May-2020 23:43  
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Yes. 5 May was still CR. (cum Rights)

 

Decisive      ( Date: 26-May-2020 23:27) Posted:

If I own sia shares before 5 may, can I apply for excess?

TheDuellist      ( Date: 26-May-2020 23:20) Posted:

If you did not own any original SIA shares before XR (Ex Rights), you will not be allowed to apply excess. That means if you buy Rights from the market, you cannot ask for excess.

Not sure about those non-custodian shares, eg: shares bought using CPF. This group really sad cases, shares bought using life-savings ended up severely diluted


 
 
Decisive
    26-May-2020 23:27  
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If I own sia shares before 5 may, can I apply for excess?

TheDuellist      ( Date: 26-May-2020 23:20) Posted:

If you did not own any original SIA shares before XR (Ex Rights), you will not be allowed to apply excess. That means if you buy Rights from the market, you cannot ask for excess.

Not sure about those non-custodian shares, eg: shares bought using CPF. This group really sad cases, shares bought using life-savings ended up severely diluted.

CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 26-May-2020 22:46) Posted:

If one is not original shareholder, i.e. bought the SIA Rgts from market, can the Rights Holder apply for Excess shares


 

 
TheDuellist
    26-May-2020 23:20  
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If you did not own any original SIA shares before XR (Ex Rights), you will not be allowed to apply excess. That means if you buy Rights from the market, you cannot ask for excess.

Not sure about those non-custodian shares, eg: shares bought using CPF. This group really sad cases, shares bought using life-savings ended up severely diluted.

CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 26-May-2020 22:46) Posted:

If one is not original shareholder, i.e. bought the SIA Rgts from market, can the Rights Holder apply for Excess shares?

Huat1368      ( Date: 26-May-2020 12:19) Posted:

It doesn't make sense to waste your SIA R. People should have sold away their SIA R by end of of 21 May if they do not intend to exercise it and converted to SIA shares by paying $3 on top of each SIA R. Its last traded price at $0.55, they still be fine if the SIA stock price is trading above $3.55 😊


 
 
Huat1368
    26-May-2020 23:01  
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CheeryVGoh      ( Date: 26-May-2020 22:46) Posted:

If one is not original shareholder, i.e. bought the SIA Rgts from market, can the Rights Holder apply for Excess shares?

Huat1368      ( Date: 26-May-2020 12:19) Posted:

It doesn't make sense to waste your SIA R. People should have sold away their SIA R by end of of 21 May if they do not intend to exercise it and converted to SIA shares by paying $3 on top of each SIA R. Its last traded price at $0.55, they still be fine if the SIA stock price is trading above $3.55 😊


 
 
CheeryVGoh
    26-May-2020 22:46  
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If one is not original shareholder, i.e. bought the SIA Rgts from market, can the Rights Holder apply for Excess shares?

Huat1368      ( Date: 26-May-2020 12:19) Posted:

It doesn't make sense to waste your SIA R. People should have sold away their SIA R by end of of 21 May if they do not intend to exercise it and converted to SIA shares by paying $3 on top of each SIA R. Its last traded price at $0.55, they still be fine if the SIA stock price is trading above $3.55 😊

Huat1368      ( Date: 26-May-2020 12:04) Posted:

For those who bought SIA R do remember to exercise it by end of 28 May 2020 else your SIA R will go to waste.😅


 
 
uiop1223
    26-May-2020 22:31  
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Agree. In fact capitaland is making profits in the past few yrs and better shape then what i forsee SIA will be in the next 3 years but i never see the share price go beyond $4.2

Longtermer      ( Date: 26-May-2020 18:28) Posted:

Not every company is the same.. especially when they are in different sector. SIA cannot fail as mentioned by PM.. Price now is hugely discounted imo.

uiop1223      ( Date: 26-May-2020 16:52) Posted:

Capitaland was $8++ before 2008 crisis. Dyod


 

 
Trader130
    26-May-2020 21:01  
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Just Tahan delivery for time being ... Who dare to fly ?   Fly to Malaysia also worry 

Longtermer      ( Date: 26-May-2020 18:28) Posted:

Not every company is the same.. especially when they are in different sector. SIA cannot fail as mentioned by PM.. Price now is hugely discounted imo.

uiop1223      ( Date: 26-May-2020 16:52) Posted:

Capitaland was $8++ before 2008 crisis. Dyod


 
 
Huat1368
    26-May-2020 20:19  
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DOW Jones index and Airline stocks soar on signs of travel resumption, recovery hopes on vaccine!!! News are still News but still based on your risk appetite!!!
 
 
Huat1368
    26-May-2020 20:06  
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This is gang of S versus L forum!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣
 
 
abkt999
    26-May-2020 19:13  
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https://mainlymiles.com/2020/05/26/sia-retiring-777-200s-and-a330s-both-types-unlikely-to-fly-again/
 
 
uiop1223
    26-May-2020 18:31  
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Cannot fail doesnt mean share price will go up. Look at the budget. Saving of jobs. Rebates.
 

 
Longtermer
    26-May-2020 18:28  
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Not every company is the same.. especially when they are in different sector. SIA cannot fail as mentioned by PM.. Price now is hugely discounted imo.

uiop1223      ( Date: 26-May-2020 16:52) Posted:

Capitaland was $8++ before 2008 crisis. Dyodd

Longtermer      ( Date: 26-May-2020 16:24) Posted:

Quite many shortists spreading fear.. Frankly, those who hold rights or even bought them recently are prepared to exercise them. SIA was $9 plus.. dyodd.


 
 
uiop1223
    26-May-2020 17:57  
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When people talk long term, how long is long.

Similar case study: Capitaland was $8++ before 2008. Then price collapsed to $2.5+ and they issued rights issue of 1 for 2 shares owed at discount of 45% (sounds very familiar right?)

What is price now? Despite reporting decent profits for past several yrs
 
 
AlanJpe
    26-May-2020 17:32  
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SIA is not is a good situation with no domestic routes. Many countries like China, Thailand, Vietnam, ... are promoting domestic travels now to support their own economy. Don't think many tourists will come over to SG in 2020.
 
 
Horseman1234
    26-May-2020 17:25  
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NAV.....how do you calculate all aircrafts value that is parked in the Australia deserts gathering dust?  Even if the covid goes away,  SIA will be the last to fly as she has no domestic routes to warm up.
International travel will only comes about after own countries like US, China and EU are confident flying their own domestic cities first.  Try competing with Delta or Lufthansia pilots after things normalised . You have SIA pilots sleeping 6 months while others are flying.  They cant even remember the airport code for christ sake!!!  No joke

Longtermer      ( Date: 26-May-2020 15:37) Posted:

Decide to enter SIA today at $3.60.
NAV before rights issue was $10.20.
After rights, it went down to about $5.80.

Current price is about 40% off its book value and sound like a GSS
After fund raising, the company balance sheet will allow the company not only to ride the storm, but to position for unprecedented opportunities likely to be presented and capture market.  Cheers.

 
 
uiop1223
    26-May-2020 16:52  
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Capitaland was $8++ before 2008 crisis. Dyodd

Longtermer      ( Date: 26-May-2020 16:24) Posted:

Quite many shortists spreading fear.. Frankly, those who hold rights or even bought them recently are prepared to exercise them. SIA was $9 plus.. dyodd.

 
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