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An investigation to the recent collapse in the share price even
during the sbb program should be carried out
will not sky rocket cause just add another 10 cents to each share....
price will recover n rise if HKL ISSUES A STATEMENT OF FURTHER FUNDS TO THE SBB PROGRAM OR PRIVATISATION IN MIND DUE TO THE LOW P/B VALUE
kcs1107 ( Date: 11-Mar-2022 11:53) Posted:
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Total Spend |
$296,103,408.71 |
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Avg Price |
$5.4062 |
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Budget |
$500,000,000.00 |
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Balance |
$203,896,591.29 |
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should taken out become Diviend to unpredented 8% yield,price will immediately sky rocket!!! |
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Potential B.B.Unit |
92,486,355 |
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Total Issued share |
2,329,473,380 |
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After disposed |
2,236,987,025 |
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it is only in the minds of some who think bringing down the share
price will enable the co to buy back more shares......
HKL had stated from Day1 that the sbb program is to raise/enhance the share price
to a more realistic p/b value instead of being so undervalued....
of being 0.3 p/b value in sept 2021.
there is definitely illogical to have spent more than usd280 million to raise the price to 5.80
n let it drop to 5.11 n maybe to test below 5.00 next week to go back to where it first started.
TO DROP BACK SO THAT HKL CAN BUY BACK MORE SHARES IS SHEER STUPIDITY N
RUBBISH, then it should immediately spend the 500 million on day1 of the sbb
program n it would have bought around 115 million shares instead of less than
95 million now.....
SOMETHING IS JUST NOT RIGHT......STUPIDITY OR MANIPULATION
kcs1107 ( Date: 12-Mar-2022 10:08) Posted:
| Budget |
$500,000,000.00 |
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Balance |
$201,302,511.29 |
if no change plans like termination of sole share buy party and investigating Director/buy back Party for conflict of interest and unpredented 4% to 8% dividend increase.
It is a forgone conclusion that below $5/- will be tested!! basing on incumbent logic that lower price would increase more purchase!! |
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| Budget |
$500,000,000.00 |
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Balance |
$201,302,511.29 |
if no change plans like termination of sole share buy party and investigating Director/buy back Party for conflict of interest and unpredented 4% to 8% dividend increase.
It is a forgone conclusion that below $5/- will be tested!! basing on incumbent logic that lower price would increase more purchase!! |
GSS continued, the question is will the $5 hold? Will it go below $5 XD?
| Trans |
Date |
B.B.Unit |
B.B.Price |
Total |
| 91 |
11/2/2022 |
492,000 |
5.78 |
2,843,760.00 |
| 92 |
14/2/2022 |
496,000 |
5.74 |
2,847,040.00 |
| 93 |
15/2/2022 |
504,000 |
5.8 |
2,923,200.00 |
| 94 |
16/2/2022 |
401,000 |
5.74 |
2,301,740.00 |
| 95 |
17/2/2022 |
560,000 |
5.76 |
3,225,600.00 |
| 96 |
18/2/2022 |
580,000 |
5.67 |
3,288,600.00 |
| 97 |
21/2/2022 |
249,000 |
5.64 |
1,404,360.00 |
| 98 |
22/2/2022 |
287,800 |
5.61 |
1,614,558.00 |
| 99 |
23/2/2022 |
409,000 |
5.7 |
2,331,300.00 |
| 100 |
24/2/2022 |
607,000 |
5.7 |
3,459,900.00 |
| 101 |
25/2/2022 |
439,700 |
5.63 |
2,475,511.00 |
| 102 |
28/2/2022 |
623,000 |
5.55 |
3,457,650.00 |
| 103 |
1/3/2022 |
632,000 |
5.43 |
3,431,760.00 |
| 104 |
2/3/2022 |
568,000 |
5.45 |
3,095,600.00 |
| 105 |
3/3/2022 |
420,400 |
5.42 |
2,278,568.00 |
| 106 |
4/3/2022 |
346,000 |
5.44 |
1,882,240.00 |
| 107 |
7/3/2022 |
515,100 |
5.38 |
2,771,238.00 |
| 108 |
8/3/2022 |
598,000 |
5.22 |
3,121,560.00 |
| 109 |
9/3/2022 |
620,000 |
5.18 |
3,211,600.00 |
| 110 |
10/3/2022 |
529,700 |
5.23 |
2,770,331.00 |
| 111 |
11/3/2022 |
496,000 |
5.23 |
2,594,080.00 |
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Total B.B.Unit |
55,267,050 |
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Total Spend |
$298,697,488.71 |
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Avg Price |
$5.4046 |
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Budget |
$500,000,000.00 |
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Balance |
$201,302,511.29 |
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Potential B.B.Unit |
92,513,416 |
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Total Issued share |
2,329,473,380 |
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After disposed |
2,236,959,964 |
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Total Spend |
$296,103,408.71 |
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Avg Price |
$5.4062 |
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Budget |
$500,000,000.00 |
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Balance |
$203,896,591.29 |
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should taken out become Diviend to unpredented 8% yield,price will immediately sky rocket!!! |
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Potential B.B.Unit |
92,486,355 |
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Total Issued share |
2,329,473,380 |
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After disposed |
2,236,987,025 |
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more wil gain $1 now
sure.can.work ( Date: 10-Mar-2022 20:52) Posted:
| Stocks market is a good sample of zero sum game...if someone won $1....there will be someone else lost that $1 or more due to gov tax and broker commisioned....It' s absolutely normal to get upset if your shares didn' t perform as you wish....you can blame or curse however you like but remember.....no one owe you a living and it' s not their interest to guarantee you to make that $1....at the end.....the person who help may also do not want to be looser of that $1.......think twice |
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Considering how the current pathetic increase of just $.70 from $4.50 to current $5.20 ever since the declaring of $500 million sharebuy back with $300million depleted ??
another $200 million spread almost 266 funds for pathetic .50 to 70 increase??when nobody questions how the next bal $1.9 billl, we have some smart alex investment on CDL project near east coast area with 49% investment.
Firstly u make yr competitors look better,cos u have no better option to deploy yr investment??
Share buy back is only good only if the execution attain is orginal objective from $4.50 to its $7 ( since book value is $14.50) not $5.20 or $6/- ????
sure.can.work ( Date: 10-Mar-2022 20:52) Posted:
| Stocks market is a good sample of zero sum game...if someone won $1....there will be someone else lost that $1 or more due to gov tax and broker commisioned....It' s absolutely normal to get upset if your shares didn' t perform as you wish....you can blame or curse however you like but remember.....no one owe you a living and it' s not their interest to guarantee you to make that $1....at the end.....the person who help may also do not want to be looser of that $1.......think twice |
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Stocks market is a good sample of zero sum game...if someone won $1....there will be someone else lost that $1 or more due to gov tax and broker commisioned....It' s absolutely normal to get upset if your shares didn' t perform as you wish....you can blame or curse however you like but remember.....no one owe you a living and it' s not their interest to guarantee you to make that $1....at the end.....the person who help may also do not want to be looser of that $1.......think twice
Finally the fire sales is over, or is it?
| Trans |
Date |
B.B.Unit |
B.B.Price |
Total |
| 91 |
11/2/2022 |
492,000 |
5.78 |
2,843,760.00 |
| 92 |
14/2/2022 |
496,000 |
5.74 |
2,847,040.00 |
| 93 |
15/2/2022 |
504,000 |
5.8 |
2,923,200.00 |
| 94 |
16/2/2022 |
401,000 |
5.74 |
2,301,740.00 |
| 95 |
17/2/2022 |
560,000 |
5.76 |
3,225,600.00 |
| 96 |
18/2/2022 |
580,000 |
5.67 |
3,288,600.00 |
| 97 |
21/2/2022 |
249,000 |
5.64 |
1,404,360.00 |
| 98 |
22/2/2022 |
287,800 |
5.61 |
1,614,558.00 |
| 99 |
23/2/2022 |
409,000 |
5.7 |
2,331,300.00 |
| 100 |
24/2/2022 |
607,000 |
5.7 |
3,459,900.00 |
| 101 |
25/2/2022 |
439,700 |
5.63 |
2,475,511.00 |
| 102 |
28/2/2022 |
623,000 |
5.55 |
3,457,650.00 |
| 103 |
1/3/2022 |
632,000 |
5.43 |
3,431,760.00 |
| 104 |
2/3/2022 |
568,000 |
5.45 |
3,095,600.00 |
| 105 |
3/3/2022 |
420,400 |
5.42 |
2,278,568.00 |
| 106 |
4/3/2022 |
346,000 |
5.44 |
1,882,240.00 |
| 107 |
7/3/2022 |
515,100 |
5.38 |
2,771,238.00 |
| 108 |
8/3/2022 |
598,000 |
5.22 |
3,121,560.00 |
| 109 |
9/3/2022 |
620,000 |
5.18 |
3,211,600.00 |
| 110 |
10/3/2022 |
529,700 |
5.23 |
2,770,331.00 |
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Total B.B.Unit |
54,771,050 |
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Total Spend |
$296,103,408.71 |
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Avg Price |
$5.4062 |
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Budget |
$500,000,000.00 |
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Balance |
$203,896,591.29 |
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Potential B.B.Unit |
92,486,355 |
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Total Issued share |
2,329,473,380 |
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After disposed |
2,236,987,025 |
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This company ?????
here we look side way to see what the big money is doing in hk
thsi norway investment fund as example. they are super manger who is able to grow year after year except for very exceptional bad years but then the next year it jump back up.
https://www.nbim.no/en/the-fund/returns/
they just dump 李 寧 (02331) in hkex. one will wonder why. these people obvious in the know. with many
very high respectable mind calc return and risk. what will they do to other hk related stock. where will they shift their money to? will sgx benefits?
there will be level of circles of those in the knowledge . just at what level of circle is one at.
retailer are at mercy as news are what is make for public to react.
in the ukraine war it may be west exchanging power with russia. each has cards to play to move prices.
on managing prices. that is unfortunate that it happens and some legally . l always view passive fund as manupulation. by those controlling the index. but what can we do. nothing . everything is legal. just play along with it.
Every mother and father sons also go up like property big chip Citi dev and capitaland all move up but only this stupid chip go back ward!!
conspiracy among institutions to buy and short should be investigated for conficts of interest !!Director assigned sole rights without reason should be terminated
Future was positive before closing ,Europe open positive on news of Zelensky declaring NATO should be abandon all bove before closing.U mean that buying mgr stupid???
pasttime ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 23:21) Posted:
let talk about money demand on stock and supply of stock.
when the company do a constant buy back at such size, the price should move up. ie there is real money buying the stock. the fact that it did not go up means there are supply. ie there are people selling to take advantage of the buying. once the buy back stop and the seller needs to sell the price will go down.
the other thing is when the ukraine war started that cause a series of things, other index components are falling in price. this make the price of any share that don' t fall looks comparatively expensive and people will start shifting the money.
today two major events from the war. ukraine side say they will not join nato in the immediate future. that is one conditions of the russia to stop the war. then russia has stop military attack from 9am ukraine time. for safe passage way for civilian to run away from the war. that is a confident pill that war may not spread as badly as projected. commodities price react, oil rpice react. on stock more savy owners start
to buy the sell down. tomorrow will expect short covering and bargain hunting on many counters.
dyodd |
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let talk about money demand on stock and supply of stock.
when the company do a constant buy back at such size, the price should move up. ie there is real money buying the stock. the fact that it did not go up means there are supply. ie there are people selling to take advantage of the buying. once the buy back stop and the seller needs to sell the price will go down.
the other thing is when the ukraine war started that cause a series of things, other index components are falling in price. this make the price of any share that don' t fall looks comparatively expensive and people will start shifting the money.
today two major events from the war. ukraine side say they will not join nato in the immediate future. that is one conditions of the russia to stop the war. then russia has stop military attack from 9am ukraine time. for safe passage way for civilian to run away from the war. that is a confident pill that war may not spread as badly as projected. commodities price react, oil rpice react. on stock more savy owners start
to buy the sell down. tomorrow will expect short covering and bargain hunting on many counters.
dyodd
u really think there is no conspiracy theory with 50.8 % under insider and 16.24% under institutions,33.06% under float by institutions ???
Pls la ,go and bluff school boy not here???
cavdinsg ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 22:45) Posted:
You can type " Why company do share buy back?" on Google and you will see that is it to reduce the number of outstanding shares.
It will also explain that management usually do share buy back when they think the share price is under valued (as it is more effective)
kcs1107 ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 22:40) Posted:
What kind of logic!! Then we should let the price become a dollar then buyback more share and discountned
This $500/millions share buy back - would go down the drains Unlless the assigned recieved immediate termination notice and the fat pig director who give its sole rights to
above be investigated for conflicts of interest.If under my care,i would assign no sole right but three accepted party with pleadge of equal sums (if three party recieved $150 million to buy back ,party should pledge same amount,meaning up to total $300
millions to assure buy back to be sustainable .Agreed with ICHiban,it is a stupid and rubbish strategy from buy back from $4.50 to $5.80 now become $5.11,it is a total waste on shareholder moneys!!
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You can type " Why company do share buy back?" on Google and you will see that is it to reduce the number of outstanding shares.
It will also explain that management usually do share buy back when they think the share price is under valued (as it is more effective)
kcs1107 ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 22:40) Posted:
What kind of logic!! Then we should let the price become a dollar then buyback more share and discountned
This $500/millions share buy back - would go down the drains Unlless the assigned recieved immediate termination notice and the fat pig director who give its sole rights to
above be investigated for conflicts of interest.If under my care,i would assign no sole right but three accepted party with pleadge of equal sums (if three party recieved $150 million to buy back ,party should pledge same amount,meaning up to total $300
millions to assure buy back to be sustainable .Agreed with ICHiban,it is a stupid and rubbish strategy from buy back from $4.50 to $5.80 now become $5.11,it is a total waste on shareholder moneys!!
cavdinsg ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 22:16) Posted:
The purpose of share buy back is not to temporarily prop up the share price.
The purpose is instead to create long term shareholder value by decreasing the total number of shares outstanding and hence increasing existing shareholder % ownership of the company (and therefore of future profits).
At fix $500mn buy back amount, the lower the price at which the company buy back shares, the more share they buy back and cancel and the more beneficial it is for long term shareholder |
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What kind of logic!! Then we should let the price become a dollar then buyback more share and discountned
This $500/millions share buy back - would go down the drains Unlless the assigned recieved immediate termination notice and the fat pig director who give its sole rights to
above be investigated for conflicts of interest.If under my care,i would assign no sole right but three accepted party with pleadge of equal sums (if three party recieved $150 million to buy back ,party should pledge same amount,meaning up to total $300
millions to assure buy back to be sustainable .Agreed with ICHiban,it is a stupid and rubbish strategy from buy back from $4.50 to $5.80 now become $5.11,it is a total waste on shareholder moneys!!
cavdinsg ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 22:16) Posted:
The purpose of share buy back is not to temporarily prop up the share price.
The purpose is instead to create long term shareholder value by decreasing the total number of shares outstanding and hence increasing existing shareholder % ownership of the company (and therefore of future profits).
At fix $500mn buy back amount, the lower the price at which the company buy back shares, the more share they buy back and cancel and the more beneficial it is for long term shareholder.
ichiban ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 21:49) Posted:
a non sensible share buy back strategy or some hanky panky
action lately.
share price had been trading within a 15 cents trading range almost
past 1 week n had been dropping averaging 7 cents daily.
doesnt make sense to let the share price drop when the objective of the
intended 500 million of sbb was to enhance or prop up the share price to
a realistic price to book value .
it had appreciated from 4.50 in Sept 2021 to 5.80 in early Feb 2022 .
yes ,lately the economic conditions of HKG is not rosy due to the surge of daily
covid infections and there is no run of rentals of HKG Land properties.
this year the dvd of 22 cents is maintained n company financial results
2021 was good in pressing times.
it really does not warrant such a 15% drop of share price these past
around 10 trading days.
it just DOESNT MAKE SENSE AFTER PROPPING UP TO 5.80 N LET IT DROP
TO 5.11 TODAY......RUBBISH N STUPID BUY BACK STRATEGY
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The purpose of share buy back is not to temporarily prop up the share price.
The purpose is instead to create long term shareholder value by decreasing the total number of shares outstanding and hence increasing existing shareholder % ownership of the company (and therefore of future profits).
At fix $500mn buy back amount, the lower the price at which the company buy back shares, the more share they buy back and cancel and the more beneficial it is for long term shareholder.
ichiban ( Date: 09-Mar-2022 21:49) Posted:
a non sensible share buy back strategy or some hanky panky
action lately.
share price had been trading within a 15 cents trading range almost
past 1 week n had been dropping averaging 7 cents daily.
doesnt make sense to let the share price drop when the objective of the
intended 500 million of sbb was to enhance or prop up the share price to
a realistic price to book value .
it had appreciated from 4.50 in Sept 2021 to 5.80 in early Feb 2022 .
yes ,lately the economic conditions of HKG is not rosy due to the surge of daily
covid infections and there is no run of rentals of HKG Land properties.
this year the dvd of 22 cents is maintained n company financial results
2021 was good in pressing times.
it really does not warrant such a 15% drop of share price these past
around 10 trading days.
it just DOESNT MAKE SENSE AFTER PROPPING UP TO 5.80 N LET IT DROP
TO 5.11 TODAY......RUBBISH N STUPID BUY BACK STRATEGY
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a non sensible share buy back strategy or some hanky panky
action lately.
share price had been trading within a 15 cents trading range almost
past 1 week n had been dropping averaging 7 cents daily.
doesnt make sense to let the share price drop when the objective of the
intended 500 million of sbb was to enhance or prop up the share price to
a realistic price to book value .
it had appreciated from 4.50 in Sept 2021 to 5.80 in early Feb 2022 .
yes ,lately the economic conditions of HKG is not rosy due to the surge of daily
covid infections and there is no run of rentals of HKG Land properties.
this year the dvd of 22 cents is maintained n company financial results
2021 was good in pressing times.
it really does not warrant such a 15% drop of share price these past
around 10 trading days.
it just DOESNT MAKE SENSE AFTER PROPPING UP TO 5.80 N LET IT DROP
TO 5.11 TODAY......RUBBISH N STUPID BUY BACK STRATEGY
