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fatpig
    30-Oct-2022 18:02  
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In a bearish market, individual investors may choose to keep cash (do nothing).  Simply no one is aware of how long the terrible market has lasted thus far.
Only Keppel Corp. is performing well this year among the stocks on my " watch list," making it evident that unless you have the expertise to identify this company, hoping that an ETF will perform well in difficult circumstances is simply impractical (because around 8% of their profit was consumed by expenditures).

beetlejuice      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 17:43) Posted:

Thank you, your point noted. 😊

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 13:26) Posted:

During a bull market, invest in ETFs since all the shares will increase in value.  Only a few good companies can prosper during a bad market, thus you should choose the company individually rather than investing in an ETF (an array of companies)


 
 
fatpig
    30-Oct-2022 17:44  
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Unless one has Xi' s mind-reading abilities.  We can just wait and hope that nothing bad happens.
But if Xi starts the battle, it will have an impact on all nearby markets.  The South China Sea and airspace will turn into a combat zone.
Singapore' s residential area will face difficulties.  When that day comes, I' ll make investments in " Can food," " drinking water," " necessary medication," and holding hard cash.

 

mr_wealth      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 17:22) Posted:

Taiwan is not a country with sovereign rights. Singapore always regards as One China. The risk of boycotting Chinese is virtually zero. We are very friendly with China and largely depends on them for a lot of resources. So mai spread fear. This is very safe HK stock.

uiop1223      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 09:12) Posted:

Nope. Sg is very clear on rule of law. It will never support a ctry invading another ctry. A matter of survival to sg. Money comes secon


 
 
beetlejuice
    30-Oct-2022 17:43  
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Thank you, your point noted. 😊

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 13:26) Posted:

During a bull market, invest in ETFs since all the shares will increase in value.  Only a few good companies can prosper during a bad market, thus you should choose the company individually rather than investing in an ETF (an array of companies).

beetlejuice      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 12:58) Posted:

Haha I bought last month. Sofar lost 25%. But at least the etf components are now trading more like real businesses, not like some giant bubbles waiting to pop


 

 
mr_wealth
    30-Oct-2022 17:22  
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Taiwan is not a country with sovereign rights. Singapore always regards as One China. The risk of boycotting Chinese is virtually zero. We are very friendly with China and largely depends on them for a lot of resources. So mai spread fear. This is very safe HK stock.

uiop1223      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 09:12) Posted:

Nope. Sg is very clear on rule of law. It will never support a ctry invading another ctry. A matter of survival to sg. Money comes second

mr_wealth      ( Date: 29-Oct-2022 23:42) Posted:

Mai spread fear. There is no way SGX is going to suspend this counter. Temasek has lots of investments in China. If we freeze their assets, they can freeze ours too


 
 
ss2017.
    30-Oct-2022 14:46  
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What he meant was during good time, close your eyes, etf sure win but it is not necessary in bad time.

In bad time two outcomes emerge: One, individual counter goes bankrupt is very likely, avoid individual counter. Two, choose good individual counter in bad time the recovery is faster than buying etf. I interpret that way.

share456      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 14:22) Posted:

etf risk is much lower than stock picking of 1 or 2 companies.
30 companies going bankrupt is lower risk than 1 or 2 companies going bankrupt

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 14:15) Posted:

ETFs can go bankrupt when the fees they charge to investors no longer cover their expenses. This can happen if the ETF loses assets due to investors pulling out of the fund. When that happens the cost per investor increases exponentially which may drive the ETF to bankruptcy.


 
 
share456
    30-Oct-2022 14:22  
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etf risk is much lower than stock picking of 1 or 2 companies.
30 companies going bankrupt is lower risk than 1 or 2 companies going bankrupt

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 14:15) Posted:

ETFs can go bankrupt when the fees they charge to investors no longer cover their expenses. This can happen if the ETF loses assets due to investors pulling out of the fund. When that happens the cost per investor increases exponentially which may drive the ETF to bankruptcy.

share456      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 14:06) Posted:

not true.
etf is a  diversification method of share investment.
if you invest in 1 or 2 companies, they can go bankrupt or lose money, all your money will be gone.
 


 

 
fatpig
    30-Oct-2022 14:15  
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ETFs can go bankrupt when the fees they charge to investors no longer cover their expenses. This can happen if the ETF loses assets due to investors pulling out of the fund. When that happens the cost per investor increases exponentially which may drive the ETF to bankruptcy.

share456      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 14:06) Posted:

not true.
etf is a  diversification method of share investment.
if you invest in 1 or 2 companies, they can go bankrupt or lose money, all your money will be gone.
 

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 13:26) Posted:

During a bull market, invest in ETFs since all the shares will increase in value.  Only a few good companies can prosper during a bad market, thus you should choose the company individually rather than investing in an ETF (an array of companies)


 
 
share456
    30-Oct-2022 14:06  
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not true.
etf is a  diversification method of share investment.
if you invest in 1 or 2 companies, they can go bankrupt or lose money, all your money will be gone.
 

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 13:26) Posted:

During a bull market, invest in ETFs since all the shares will increase in value.  Only a few good companies can prosper during a bad market, thus you should choose the company individually rather than investing in an ETF (an array of companies).

beetlejuice      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 12:58) Posted:

Haha I bought last month. Sofar lost 25%. But at least the etf components are now trading more like real businesses, not like some giant bubbles waiting to pop


 
 
ss2017.
    30-Oct-2022 13:34  
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Agreed. Look at hstech etf , really shake head.

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 13:26) Posted:

During a bull market, invest in ETFs since all the shares will increase in value.  Only a few good companies can prosper during a bad market, thus you should choose the company individually rather than investing in an ETF (an array of companies).

beetlejuice      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 12:58) Posted:

Haha I bought last month. Sofar lost 25%. But at least the etf components are now trading more like real businesses, not like some giant bubbles waiting to pop


 
 
fatpig
    30-Oct-2022 13:26  
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During a bull market, invest in ETFs since all the shares will increase in value.  Only a few good companies can prosper during a bad market, thus you should choose the company individually rather than investing in an ETF (an array of companies).

beetlejuice      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 12:58) Posted:

Haha I bought last month. Sofar lost 25%. But at least the etf components are now trading more like real businesses, not like some giant bubbles waiting to pop.

stonkmaster      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 12:32) Posted:

Lost 40% on this counter. Anyone know will recover? Should sell or hold


 

 
fatpig
    30-Oct-2022 13:14  
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Since October 24, 2022, the Chinese government has spent 7 billion CNH to support the Hang Seng stock market.  However, the outcome is not encouraging because this time both local and foreign investors are leaving the market.  Xi indicated that he is coming back, that he is targeting the Chinese super-rich, and that everyone is aware of this.  These extremely wealthy people are selling off their local assets in an effort to flee and hide.
 
 
beetlejuice
    30-Oct-2022 12:58  
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Haha I bought last month. Sofar lost 25%. But at least the etf components are now trading more like real businesses, not like some giant bubbles waiting to pop.

stonkmaster      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 12:32) Posted:

Lost 40% on this counter. Anyone know will recover? Should sell or hold?

uiop1223      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 09:12) Posted:

Nope. Sg is very clear on rule of law. It will never support a ctry invading another ctry. A matter of survival to sg. Money comes secon


 
 
stonkmaster
    30-Oct-2022 12:32  
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Lost 40% on this counter. Anyone know will recover? Should sell or hold?

uiop1223      ( Date: 30-Oct-2022 09:12) Posted:

Nope. Sg is very clear on rule of law. It will never support a ctry invading another ctry. A matter of survival to sg. Money comes second

mr_wealth      ( Date: 29-Oct-2022 23:42) Posted:

Mai spread fear. There is no way SGX is going to suspend this counter. Temasek has lots of investments in China. If we freeze their assets, they can freeze ours too


 
 
uiop1223
    30-Oct-2022 09:12  
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Nope. Sg is very clear on rule of law. It will never support a ctry invading another ctry. A matter of survival to sg. Money comes second

mr_wealth      ( Date: 29-Oct-2022 23:42) Posted:

Mai spread fear. There is no way SGX is going to suspend this counter. Temasek has lots of investments in China. If we freeze their assets, they can freeze ours too.

menthod      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 21:40) Posted:

Russia stock/etf was suspended due to war.
Anything is possible if china go to war to reunify Taiwan.



 
 
menthod
    30-Oct-2022 00:49  
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This is my opinion that there is risk n high uncertainty.
War is one of them. Its already reflected in the depressed price.
No fear no gain.

mr_wealth      ( Date: 29-Oct-2022 23:42) Posted:

Mai spread fear. There is no way SGX is going to suspend this counter. Temasek has lots of investments in China. If we freeze their assets, they can freeze ours too.

menthod      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 21:40) Posted:

Russia stock/etf was suspended due to war.
Anything is possible if china go to war to reunify Taiwan.



 

 
mr_wealth
    29-Oct-2022 23:42  
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Mai spread fear. There is no way SGX is going to suspend this counter. Temasek has lots of investments in China. If we freeze their assets, they can freeze ours too.

menthod      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 21:40) Posted:

Russia stock/etf was suspended due to war.
Anything is possible if china go to war to reunify Taiwan.



share456      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 19:22) Posted:

hs tech etf tracks the top 30 tech companies in HSI.
once the company cannot perform and is not in the top 30 , it will be removed from etf and be replaced by another company.
for etf to go bankrupt, it means the 30 companies need to go bankrupt at the same time
it is near impossible.
 


 
 
menthod
    29-Oct-2022 11:28  
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Tbh i still think china is a peaceful country.
But they just need one person to go insane like Putin. Afterall it much of one party rule country. And after much provoking n maybe a one off sabotage incident things will get escalated fast.

SlothSG      ( Date: 29-Oct-2022 07:06) Posted:

U really think war is on the card?

menthod      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 21:40) Posted:

Russia stock/etf was suspended due to war.
Anything is possible if china go to war to reunify Taiwan.



 
 
SlothSG
    29-Oct-2022 07:06  
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U really think war is on the card?

menthod      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 21:40) Posted:

Russia stock/etf was suspended due to war.
Anything is possible if china go to war to reunify Taiwan.



share456      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 19:22) Posted:

hs tech etf tracks the top 30 tech companies in HSI.
once the company cannot perform and is not in the top 30 , it will be removed from etf and be replaced by another company.
for etf to go bankrupt, it means the 30 companies need to go bankrupt at the same time
it is near impossible.
 


 
 
menthod
    28-Oct-2022 21:40  
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Russia stock/etf was suspended due to war.
Anything is possible if china go to war to reunify Taiwan.



share456      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 19:22) Posted:

hs tech etf tracks the top 30 tech companies in HSI.
once the company cannot perform and is not in the top 30 , it will be removed from etf and be replaced by another company.
for etf to go bankrupt, it means the 30 companies need to go bankrupt at the same time
it is near impossible.
 

stonkmaster      ( Date: 28-Oct-2022 18:22) Posted:

Why cannot leh?


 
 
marketuncle
    28-Oct-2022 19:59  
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I gave up le, felt hopeless after the congress. Too much opportunity cost.
 
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