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I predict also that there will be ppl saying I talk nonsense :)
Case 1) Let say you(major shareholders) have 16 lots, now you push the price to $1, u only get $16000
Case 2) Let say you have 106 lots, now you push the price to $1, you will have $106000
So My prediction is, push down, issue shares cheap to buy over my own hotel and get ALOT of shares for my hotel, then push up the price , just like blumont. Remember blumont issued at 1 cents (around there), after getting ALOT of blumont shares, push to $2+, become multi-millionaires,,
For case 1), you will have to push the price up and up to 10 cents
For case 2), you will have to push the price down and down to 1 cent
Let say you are Mr Chin and you are going to inject your hotel into Adventus.
Just giving an example:
1) Let say Adventus has 10 lots issued share. You(major shareholder) have 6 lots while small investors 4 lots.
2) Your own hotel is worth $1000.
Case 1) Would you issue Adventus shares at 10 cents to buy over your own hotel? ie: Issuing 10 lots of adventus shares at 10 cents = 10 x $100 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.
So in the end, you will receive 10 lots of adventus shares for your hotel. End result: You have total of 16 lots while small investors 4 lots.
OR
Case 2) Would you issue Adventus shares at 1 cents to buy over your own hotel? ie: Issuing 100 lots of adventus shares at 1 cents = 100 x $10 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.
So in the end, you will have 100 lots of adventus shares for your hotel. End result: You have total of 106 lots while other investors 4 lots.
Imagine you are Mr Chin, which case would you choose? Case 1 or Case 2?
BUT if the hotel belongs to a 3rd party and not Mr Chin' s,
Case 1) Would you issue Adventus shares at 10 cents to buy over hotel from 3rd party? ie: Issuing 10 lots of adventus shares at 10 cents = 10 x $100 = $1000 to buy over hotel from 3rd party.
So in the end, you will have 6 lots of adventus shares, small investors 4 lots, 3rd party 10 lots.
OR
Case 2) Would you issue Adventus shares at 1 cents to buy over hotel from 3rd party? ie: Issuing 100 lots of adventus shares at 1 cents = 100 x $10 = $1000 to buy over hotel from 3rd party.
So in the end, you will have 6 lots of adventus shares, small investors 4 lots, 3rd party 100 lots.
Which case would you choose? Case 1) or 2)?
Let say you are Mr Chin and you are going to inject your hotel into Adventus.
Just giving an example:
1) Let say Adventus has 10 lots issued share in the market. You(major shareholder) have 6 lots while small investors 4 lots.
2) Your own hotel is worth $1000.
Case 1) Would you issue Adventus shares at 10 cents to buy over your own hotel? ie: Issuing 10 lots of adventus shares at 10 cents = 10 x $100 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.
So in the end, you will receive 10 lots of adventus shares for your hotel. End result: You have total of 16 lots while small investors 4 lots.
OR
Case 2) Would you issue Adventus shares at 1 cents to buy over your own hotel? ie: Issuing 100 lots of adventus shares at 1 cents = 100 x $10 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.
So in the end, you will have 100 lots of adventus shares for your hotel. End result: You have total of 116 lots while other investors 4 lots.
Imagine you are Mr Chin, which case would you choose? Case 1 or Case 2?
BUT if the hotel belongs to a 3rd party and not Mr Chin' s,
Case 1) Would you issue Adventus shares at 10 cents to buy over hotel from 3rd party? ie: Issuing 10 lots of adventus shares at 10 cents = 10 x $100 = $1000 to buy over hotel from 3rd party.
So in the end, you will have 6 lots of adventus shares, small investors 4 lots, 3rd party 10 lots.
OR
Case 2) Would you issue Adventus shares at 1 cents to buy over hotel from 3rd party? ie: Issuing 100 lots of adventus shares at 1 cents = 100 x $10 = $1000 to buy over hotel from 3rd party.
So in the end, you will have 6 lots of adventus shares, small investors 4 lots, 3rd party 100 lots.
Which case would you choose? Case 1) or 2)?
seanpent ( Date: 14-Sep-2014 17:29) Posted:
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Looks like jig-saw puzzle piecing up soon ?
May or may not reach the price what many sideliners are waiting for ?
However, be psychological prepared for early than expected rocket launch ?
Jeep small small just in case earlier than expected ? If plus minus the rocket launch schedule, then can still afford to add along the way ?
AddLuck ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 12:24) Posted:
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In fact bro Addluck, I have been thinking to buy FEHT for some time but feel that px too expensive to jeep now even at 84c still at lofty valuation. I like their hospitality biz like what u elaborated, not so much on the service apartments but more on their medical centre cum hospitality. I have booked the oasia hotel this year for my mum to stay when she is still alive & I find that the hotel is rather nice, clean & rates are competitive. They offer lower pricing if occupancy rate on that day is lower & adjust accordingly which I quite like the concept.
AddLuck ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 12:24) Posted:
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Ill wait further more then decide to jump in ba
When cbc introduce or inject his assets (whatever, bldgs or green etc) into adventus, first thing is adventus got to pay for it! If its in the form of issue new shares to cbc sounds fine if issue price is 28 or higher. What if the price is 1c or below 28? Will adventus shares price go up? What if he calls for a right issue or corporate bonds (very unlikely)? Will the share price go up? One need to think of the rto process! I think one good example quite similar to adventus should rto go ahead will be wcorp!
Yes, this is going to take easily many months even years before we see any fruits to bear. Speculators, newbies out for quick fast cash & unserious investors please Siam away!!!!
This is for serious investors with eye for value & HOLDING power! Pls do not over trade and when px toh and you can' t hold then blame CBC JL Ms Kum becos building wealth takes time! You don' t become rich overnight from investing!
just hold as many lots as u feel comfortable without compromising yur financial health and liability and add more when things turn more favorable and when our finances allow.
AddLuck ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 12:24) Posted:
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You talk as if you are a pro.
Spivvy ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 11:52) Posted:
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Yeah i have holding power, who is muifan?
Spivvy ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 11:52) Posted:
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Some small thoughts of this these new business:
1) hotel business - self explanatory
2)Hospitality - provision of service apartments to short term and long term tenancy, mostly expatriate who works in Singapore but include all luxurious services.....a bit like Hotels.
3) Tourism related - also related to item 2....can be short term stays for gambling, medical tourism ( stay while being treated) and any other reasons besides working in Singapore.
4) Green Energy -to be implemented into his properties..... maintenance cost saving measures.....and save the earth policies.
There ' s only a slight difference from REITS. Good example is the FEO hospitality group which is now listed. They have combination of all the above....hotels, medical centre cum hospitality suits( medical tourism), service apartments( long term short term).
If CBC is going along the line FEO H P......he will consolidate all his properties and inject into Adventus......of course if he really got that many properties.
As for the $ 18 mil or so cash that Adventus have......this could be for operational expenses. The consolidated property assets.....well.....it will show value as asset in Adventus......now this may be huge!!!! But be aware, this scenerio is just one possibility of several. Not too sure he will bank on this for all or nothing scenerio. It also takes months for consolidation.
Spivvy ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 01:19) Posted:
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Huh what video?? Spa no video....
I see can show me the video?
Spivvy ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 11:52) Posted:
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Just nice for you to retire then!
doufei ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 11:06) Posted:
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In any case, do not commit too much even if you are confident. Things not so clear as yet. Until we really see things turn in our favour, we should exercise caution in trading & add more chips as the story unfold. Dont Showhand. The taiwan stocks master hu li yang said chips should be added in 3 stages, first bet is to test water, then when the bet turns out to be correct add second round & the final third bet is put when trend has been confirmed. His way of trading/investment is to cut losses once px dips below yur average buying px. To him there's no such thing as long term investment, cautions us against being stuck high & results in endless misery. He advocates buy only if u think that px is CHEAP.
Muifan bro said buying stocks must have HOLDING power in order to win the market.
And so im learning to let go my losses & enjoy weekend relax spa treatment, refresh mind & soul. Enjoy cup of nice coffee also nice. Buy some EPL fotbol for entertsinment. And save some $ buy ifone6!!!
Muifan bro said buying stocks must have HOLDING power in order to win the market.
And so im learning to let go my losses & enjoy weekend relax spa treatment, refresh mind & soul. Enjoy cup of nice coffee also nice. Buy some EPL fotbol for entertsinment. And save some $ buy ifone6!!!
Im going to give my full trust to CBC, he' s definately the right man for me better than TCW
doufei ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 11:06) Posted:
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Haha, few decades later I'll be lao ko, may not be around. Haha
Spivvy ( Date: 13-Sep-2014 10:05) Posted:
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Waaa then doufei will become millionaire liao in few decades time when adventus become the next breadtalk or Osim. Maybe even give dividends no need to sell in yur lifetime liao.