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Jimmykohkk
    16-Sep-2014 07:16  
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U see ppl like Spivvy. I just wanna give my observation, he says I talk c_cok.

He himself should be the one toking c_cok. He has been saying Adventus will chiong to 10 cents, 20 cents and even 90 cents if i remember correctly.

I give him advice to just shut up and not help the BBs, he says I tok co_ok.

haha, let him keep shouting huat har, chiong to 10 cents etc then, BBs very happy that he is helping them to lure innocent buyers in for the BBs to execute their pump and dump..

 

doufei      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 21:42) Posted:

Many vested bros here want Adventus to up. But Bro Jimmy also means well, hope retailers like us don't lose money. His advice is also quite true. If we keep say it will up to certain price, retailers will be lured in and let bb offload at high price. BBs are not investors like CBC, they just push down price low to collect and dump at high price.

 
 
Jimmykohkk
    16-Sep-2014 07:12  
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well well, now someone wanna bet yesterday that the price will cross 4 cents. Now he loses and start scolding me c_ck. He has been asking everyone to buy even when the price was 4.8 cents. Now price down to around 3 cents, he is still so " how lian" .

Ok then, this type of stubborn ppl, tok to them also no use. I predict there will be dilution to small shareholders when the news of hotel injection finally arrives (if).

If I am the owner of the hotel, I would issue Adventus share cheap to buy over my hotel so that I can get MORE SHARES and I wont be using my own cash ($17 million ) to buy over my OWN HOTEL.

Let see today will it chiong past 4 cents?

 

Spivvy      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:23) Posted:



leter afternoon cheong past 4c u will keep quiet liao. Wanna bet on it?

Now i keep quiet first....

 

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:20) Posted:



The BBs like to hear ppl like you shouting chiong past 4 cents so that buyers will be lured in and they can dump.


 
 
Spivvy
    16-Sep-2014 00:06  
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Px dont even reach 5c like that called pump meh? Wah biang eh... Move up & down also that 3c maximum nia, listen to mr jimmy tok cok so shiok. Trade few pips up & down traders like him cant earn much and when the big move finally comes they may even miss it totally.
 

 
doufei
    15-Sep-2014 21:42  
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Many vested bros here want Adventus to up. But Bro Jimmy also means well, hope retailers like us don't lose money. His advice is also quite true. If we keep say it will up to certain price, retailers will be lured in and let bb offload at high price. BBs are not investors like CBC, they just push down price low to collect and dump at high price.
 
 
Jimmykohkk
    15-Sep-2014 20:17  
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well.. gd luck to you... But if u and ur friends keep shouting " good things" about adventus even when the price is slowly dropping, then u letting the BBs the chance to execute their pump and dump. And each dump by the BBs will only accelerate the drop in price.

If the BBs dun have the chance to pump and dump, perhaps worst case, the price will be stagnant at 4 cents as BBs need to support the price if they are stuck with the shares and there are no buyers for them to dump.

Think about it.

 

dragonn      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 20:07) Posted:



Anyways I already $ into adventus liao and hold for months  liao  I believe it' ll be one of the next bigger thing on SGX market.

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 19:58) Posted:



scold me somemore... i think u better continue to shout " adventus will chiong to 90 cents" , help the BBs lure in buyers,  if not BBs will get stuck..


 
 
dragonn
    15-Sep-2014 20:07  
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Anyways I already $ into adventus liao and hold for months  liao  I believe it' ll be one of the next bigger thing on SGX market.

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 19:58) Posted:



scold me somemore... i think u better continue to shout " adventus will chiong to 90 cents" , help the BBs lure in buyers,  if not BBs will get stuck..

Spivvy      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:16) Posted:



jimmy cock 35 lai liao....

 


 

 
Jimmykohkk
    15-Sep-2014 19:58  
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scold me somemore... i think u better continue to shout " adventus will chiong to 90 cents" , help the BBs lure in buyers,  if not BBs will get stuck..

Spivvy      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:16) Posted:



jimmy cock 35 lai liao....

 

 
 
Jimmykohkk
    15-Sep-2014 19:56  
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The share price slowly creeping down and the fact that the dumping starts very early nowadays shows that the BBs know that less and less ppl can be lured in by story of adventus hitting 90 cents..

 

 

Du_shen      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 18:33) Posted:

Today seems like the last chance for retailer to get out. This counter shld test new low within the next 1 to 2weeks. :o

 
 
Jimmykohkk
    15-Sep-2014 19:53  
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In order for round 2 to happen, the BBs need some people to shout " huat har..will chiong to 10 cents, hold !!, good potential, must trust this and that, sure huat, i buying more " etc..

Becos the BBs  need to lure in " innocent" buyers  (small investors) who listen to the shouting and actually think that there is a breakout to help the BBs  create buy queues, then pump abit, and DUMP!!!!

This  thread got a few who likes to shout from the day it was 4.8 cents to the day it went down to 2.7 cents. The reasons given by them is  must trust

their  master  who said  that adventus share price will go up to 10 cents or even 20 cents.

But everytime they shout and  some readers reading their shouting are tempted to buy or average down. The BBs must be laughing out loud to the bank becos the " shouting"   help lure in innocent buyers who really think that the share price will hit 20 cents and BBs can offload to them.

BUT as the time pass by    and the 10 cents, 20 cents price never materialise, less and less readers believe the story already or many are stuck.

That why the share price keep dropping. I believe today maybe a pump by BBs in order to dump and they know more and more ppl are starting to doubt the story, so u see very fast they start dumping this morning. Usually the dumping would not come so quick, this time round, dumping starts early in the morning when the share price hits 3.5 cents.

 

 

 

sgjames      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 18:19) Posted:



I kind of agree with Jimmy, let the BBs play themselves and don' t express too much emotions here. If want to express, must learn from CCBDavidChen, his vocabulary of expletives is no. 1. I cut my holdings last week, then the BBs start to pump. They must accumulate enough curses before planning their next move.  Let see if there is round 2 tomorrow...

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 17:11) Posted:



So how?

I say liow, you should just keep quite and not help the BBs by saying " good to hear" things and help lure buyers in.. BBs want buyers to appear so that they can dump.

If u keep quiet, no buyers, the BBs will get stuck, and they not able to dump, they have to keep the price high, if not they lose alot.

 


 
 
leocock
    15-Sep-2014 19:21  
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today only good for fifo during the very first 10 mins, lol. 
 

 
Du_shen
    15-Sep-2014 18:33  
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Today seems like the last chance for retailer to get out. This counter shld test new low within the next 1 to 2weeks. :o
 
 
sgjames
    15-Sep-2014 18:19  
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I kind of agree with Jimmy, let the BBs play themselves and don' t express too much emotions here. If want to express, must learn from CCBDavidChen, his vocabulary of expletives is no. 1. I cut my holdings last week, then the BBs start to pump. They must accumulate enough curses before planning their next move.  Let see if there is round 2 tomorrow...

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 17:11) Posted:



So how?

I say liow, you should just keep quite and not help the BBs by saying " good to hear" things and help lure buyers in.. BBs want buyers to appear so that they can dump.

If u keep quiet, no buyers, the BBs will get stuck, and they not able to dump, they have to keep the price high, if not they lose alot.

 

Spivvy      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:23) Posted:



leter afternoon cheong past 4c u will keep quiet liao. Wanna bet on it?

Now i keep quiet first....

 


 
 
Jimmykohkk
    15-Sep-2014 17:11  
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So how?

I say liow, you should just keep quite and not help the BBs by saying " good to hear" things and help lure buyers in.. BBs want buyers to appear so that they can dump.

If u keep quiet, no buyers, the BBs will get stuck, and they not able to dump, they have to keep the price high, if not they lose alot.

 

Spivvy      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:23) Posted:



leter afternoon cheong past 4c u will keep quiet liao. Wanna bet on it?

Now i keep quiet first....

 

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:20) Posted:



The BBs like to hear ppl like you shouting chiong past 4 cents so that buyers will be lured in and they can dump.


 
 
Jimmykohkk
    15-Sep-2014 17:09  
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u are absolutely right... If he is injecting HIS OWN HOTEL into adventus, he would want to issue more shares (cheaper price)  to buy over his hotel  so that in the end, he would own  a huge pie  of the shares while leaving small investors with much diluted shares.

 

bravepeanut      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 14:01) Posted:

Looking to enter, but a dilution may be coming, especially if there will be asset injection or fund raising. I'm skipping this phase of chionging just to be safe.

If it chiongs to 40 today, I'll be happy for you guys!

 
 
dragonn
    15-Sep-2014 15:56  
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Look at the prices of t that area few years back is there an increase? http://www.stproperty.sg/articles-property/singapore-property-news/westin-singapore-hotel-sold-for-468m/a/148390

bravepeanut      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 14:01) Posted:

Looking to enter, but a dilution may be coming, especially if there will be asset injection or fund raising. I'm skipping this phase of chionging just to be safe.

If it chiongs to 40 today, I'll be happy for you guys!

 

 
bravepeanut
    15-Sep-2014 14:01  
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Looking to enter, but a dilution may be coming, especially if there will be asset injection or fund raising. I'm skipping this phase of chionging just to be safe.

If it chiongs to 40 today, I'll be happy for you guys!
 
 
Jimmykohkk
    15-Sep-2014 13:44  
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ok.. we shd see.. end of the day..  see what u say

Spivvy      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:23) Posted:



leter afternoon cheong past 4c u will keep quiet liao. Wanna bet on it?

Now i keep quiet first....

 

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 09:20) Posted:



The BBs like to hear ppl like you shouting chiong past 4 cents so that buyers will be lured in and they can dump.


 
 
Spivvy
    15-Sep-2014 13:34  
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$18 mil too small le... must be at least $300mil. I expect $1billion injection.

 

AddLuck      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 11:47) Posted:



  Let,s face it, he will choose the best scenerio for himself and khakis. The more important question is will he be raising cash and quantum of injection( whether big or small timer onset). Can' t help thinking he will use existing cash of $ 17 to $18 mil to buy into his hotel for starters.....this way , no need to raise cash first. The rest will follow when MS Kum starts raising cash for further enhancement of the the Group ( acquiring own properties or third Parties). In short, we can expect the quantum of injection should be around this figure.....number of shares and value will work around this figure for starters??? yes??? no ??? Just don' t know what proerties he owned except maybe for the West Bay Hotel at Telok Blangah - right in front of Sentosa Gateway.

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 10:19) Posted:



Let say you are Mr Chin and you are going to inject your hotel into Adventus.

Just giving an example:

1) Let say Adventus has 10 lots issued share.  You(major shareholder)  have  6 lots while  small investors 4 lots.

2)  Your own hotel is worth $1000.

Case 1) Would you issue Adventus shares at 10 cents to buy over your own hotel?  ie: Issuing 10 lots of adventus shares at 10 cents = 10 x $100 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.

So in the end, you will  receive 10 lots of adventus shares  for your hotel. End result: You have total of 16 lots  while  small investors 4 lots.

OR

Case 2) Would you issue Adventus shares at 1 cents to buy over your own hotel?  ie: Issuing 100 lots of adventus shares at 1 cents = 100 x $10 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.

So in the end, you will have 100 lots of adventus shares  for your hotel. End result: You have total of  106 lots  while other investors 4 lots.

Imagine you are Mr Chin, which case would you choose? Case 1 or Case 2?
 


 
 
Spivvy
    15-Sep-2014 13:32  
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bro, u tok like a BOSS.

 

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Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 10:19) Posted:



Let say you are Mr Chin and you are going to inject your hotel into Adventus.

Just giving an example:

1) Let say Adventus has 10 lots issued share.  You(major shareholder)  have  6 lots while  small investors 4 lots.

2)  Your own hotel is worth $1000.

Case 1) Would you issue Adventus shares at 10 cents to buy over your own hotel?  ie: Issuing 10 lots of adventus shares at 10 cents = 10 x $100 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.

So in the end, you will  receive 10 lots of adventus shares  for your hotel. End result: You have total of 16 lots  while  small investors 4 lots.

OR

Case 2) Would you issue Adventus shares at 1 cents to buy over your own hotel?  ie: Issuing 100 lots of adventus shares at 1 cents = 100 x $10 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.

So in the end, you will have 100 lots of adventus shares  for your hotel. End result: You have total of  106 lots  while other investors 4 lots.

Imagine you are Mr Chin, which case would you choose? Case 1 or Case 2?
 


 
 
AddLuck
    15-Sep-2014 11:47  
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  Let,s face it, he will choose the best scenerio for himself and khakis. The more important question is will he be raising cash and quantum of injection( whether big or small timer onset). Can' t help thinking he will use existing cash of $ 17 to $18 mil to buy into his hotel for starters.....this way , no need to raise cash first. The rest will follow when MS Kum starts raising cash for further enhancement of the the Group ( acquiring own properties or third Parties). In short, we can expect the quantum of injection should be around this figure.....number of shares and value will work around this figure for starters??? yes??? no ??? Just don' t know what proerties he owned except maybe for the West Bay Hotel at Telok Blangah - right in front of Sentosa Gateway.

Jimmykohkk      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 10:19) Posted:



Let say you are Mr Chin and you are going to inject your hotel into Adventus.

Just giving an example:

1) Let say Adventus has 10 lots issued share.  You(major shareholder)  have  6 lots while  small investors 4 lots.

2)  Your own hotel is worth $1000.

Case 1) Would you issue Adventus shares at 10 cents to buy over your own hotel?  ie: Issuing 10 lots of adventus shares at 10 cents = 10 x $100 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.

So in the end, you will  receive 10 lots of adventus shares  for your hotel. End result: You have total of 16 lots  while  small investors 4 lots.

OR

Case 2) Would you issue Adventus shares at 1 cents to buy over your own hotel?  ie: Issuing 100 lots of adventus shares at 1 cents = 100 x $10 = $1000 to buy over your own hotel.

So in the end, you will have 100 lots of adventus shares  for your hotel. End result: You have total of  106 lots  while other investors 4 lots.

Imagine you are Mr Chin, which case would you choose? Case 1 or Case 2?
 

Spivvy      ( Date: 15-Sep-2014 10:15) Posted:



very obviously there are buyers absorbing from the sellers.

When adventus annouced green energy biz selling started but when hotel developement annouced price jumps up with high volume. What does this means?

U think for yourself. 3.2c now is still not an expensive px to pay for  its potential.

 


 
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