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Singtel
Price/ Book- 1.46x
Debt/ Equity- 0.43x

Starhub
Price/ Book- 4.3x
Debt/ Equity- 2.3x
 

chart_expert123      ( Date: 25-Dec-2021 15:07) Posted: 1.35-1.39 is 1.5 years high. 😂 😂 😂 . Who bought within 1.5 years are holding profit now. Starhub is temasek baby, when company growth with revenue and net positive cash flow(generate cash, not like SCM cash burnt), liabilities can leave it aside. Starhub new CEO already set target to turn starhub profit to 400 over mio per year in 4 years, if as per plan, 4 year later starhub will be above 4.5 dollars. What is SCM plan? No future at all. dcproperty      ( Date: 25-Dec-2021 09:16) Posted: From your forum posting, I am quite sure your entry price for Starhub was much higher than current price of $1.35. You better pray hard that It won' t privatize now. If not even the offer price with 30% premium, you might still underwater. You are just jio people buy this counter to help you stabilize price only Furthermore, Starhub is a telco company. Very hard for a telco company grow organically or for overseas acquisition. Hardly any country allows their telco operator owns by foreigner. Look at what happened when TH entered Thai market. Besides, any privatising, will have to take over Starhub' s liabilities lo.

 

Going to burn a big hole underneath the sinking ship.. 7 series next week?

MakeChanges      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 08:03) Posted: RECEIPT OF NOTICE OF ARBITRATION Sembcorp Marine Ltd (the ' Company' ) wishes to inform that its wholly-owned subsidiary, Jurong Shipyard Pte Ltd (' JSPL' ) has received a notice of commencement of four arbitrations from a vendor (the ' Vendor' ) under four separate contracts for the supply of certain equipment for some of its projects. JSPL maintains that the contracts for the supply of equipment were validly suspended or terminated. Parties have been in discussions over the payment claims from the Vendor for such suspension or termination, but have yet to reach an agreement. The Vendor has now commenced arbitration proceedings making allegations of breach and for payment. The amounts purportedly claimed are for invoices of approximately USD76 million plus other costs and interests under the four contracts, all of which remain to be proved by the Vendor. JSPL has engaged legal advisers for the four arbitrations proceedings and will defend all claims made against it. The Company will provide updates on material developments on this matter as appropriate.

 

1.35-1.39 is 1.5 years high. 😂 😂 😂 . Who bought within 1.5 years are holding profit now. Starhub is temasek baby, when company growth with revenue and net positive cash flow(generate cash, not like SCM cash burnt), liabilities can leave it aside. Starhub new CEO already set target to turn starhub profit to 400 over mio per year in 4 years, if as per plan, 4 year later starhub will be above 4.5 dollars. What is SCM plan? No future at all.

dcproperty      ( Date: 25-Dec-2021 09:16) Posted: From your forum posting, I am quite sure your entry price for Starhub was much higher than current price of $1.35. You better pray hard that It won' t privatize now. If not even the offer price with 30% premium, you might still underwater. You are just jio people buy this counter to help you stabilize price only Furthermore, Starhub is a telco company. Very hard for a telco company grow organically or for overseas acquisition. Hardly any country allows their telco operator owns by foreigner. Look at what happened when TH entered Thai market. Besides, any privatising, will have to take over Starhub' s liabilities lo. chart_expert123      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 09:15) Posted: 😂 😂 😂 starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth. SCM all are opposite. Of course buy big and hold starhub. If privatise, surely more than M1 privatise at 2.06. Starhub is only 1.35 now. Starhub market cap only 2.2bil. SCM is 2.78bil. Only scammers scam to buy SCM

 

Starhub new CEO bought shares at 1.37 with his own 1mio cash from his own pocket. SCM CEO took more than 10mio from SCM through bonus and salary in past good years, didn't even dare to subscribe the rights at 8cents. Hpwever, Scammers here scam to buy at 8 cents and above and declared SCM is cheap to buy. Instead of measure the share price with the value of the company, they measure it with "8cents". Just because in real life 8cents is cheap. SCM worth for 0 if no merge plan with keppel o&m. Short term target is 4-5cents.

chart_expert123      ( Date: 25-Dec-2021 11:06) Posted: No wonder you are so supportive SCM. You only look at history and past. Those can only explain starhub from 4.5 to 1.2x. But I am looking forward from 1.2x to 2.0 as per current happen and future prospects. I only look at present and future prospect. https://www.dbs.com.sg/treasures/aics/stock-coverage/templatedata/article/equity/data/en/DBSV/012014/STH_SP.xml. DBS target price is 1.6 dollars. https://ir.starhub.com/investors/?page=Results. Starhub 3Q result show revenue, profit and net positive cash flow gain. Plus Dare 2.0 profit gain, cost cutting and expansion plan. All these drove starhub from 1.2x to 1.3x. It will be higher so long as Dare 2.0 plan is as per plan. Starhub not just mobile, TV, broadband services providers, Temasek transform starhub to be a regional cybersecurity and ICTs company as well. Buy stock only buy with revenue growth and net positive cash flow growth. So long as starhub to perform as it is, I will hold my big portion of my portfolio at 1.2x... better      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 14:58) Posted: " starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth..." Starhub' s financial numbers presented without comment (Source: Yahoo Finance) 2017 Total revenue- $2.400 billion Net income- $249 million Total liabilities- S2.007 billion 2018 Total revenue- $2.362 billion Net income- $201.7 million Total liabilities- $2.047 billion 2019 Total revenue- $2.330 billion Net income- $186.3 million Total liabilities- $2.158 billion Latest 12 months Total revenue- $2.042 billion Net income- $148.4 million Total liabilities- $2.304 billion

 

No wonder you are so supportive SCM. You only look at history and past. Those can only explain starhub from 4.5 to 1.2x. But I am looking forward from 1.2x to 2.0 as per current happen and future prospects. I only look at present and future prospect. https://www.dbs.com.sg/treasures/aics/stock-coverage/templatedata/article/equity/data/en/DBSV/012014/STH_SP.xml. DBS target price is 1.6 dollars. https://ir.starhub.com/investors/?page=Results. Starhub 3Q result show revenue, profit and net positive cash flow gain. Plus Dare 2.0 profit gain, cost cutting and expansion plan. All these drove starhub from 1.2x to 1.3x. It will be higher so long as Dare 2.0 plan is as per plan. Starhub not just mobile, TV, broadband services providers, Temasek transform starhub to be a regional cybersecurity and ICTs company as well. Buy stock only buy with revenue growth and net positive cash flow growth. So long as starhub to perform as it is, I will hold my big portion of my portfolio at 1.2x...

better      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 14:58) Posted: " starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth..." Starhub' s financial numbers presented without comment (Source: Yahoo Finance) 2017 Total revenue- $2.400 billion Net income- $249 million Total liabilities- S2.007 billion 2018 Total revenue- $2.362 billion Net income- $201.7 million Total liabilities- $2.047 billion 2019 Total revenue- $2.330 billion Net income- $186.3 million Total liabilities- $2.158 billion Latest 12 months Total revenue- $2.042 billion Net income- $148.4 million Total liabilities- $2.304 billion chart_expert123      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 09:15) Posted: 😂 😂 😂 starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth. SCM all are opposite. Of course buy big and hold starhub. If privatise, surely more than M1 privatise at 2.06. Starhub is only 1.35 now. Starhub market cap only 2.2bil. SCM is 2.78bil. Only scammers scam to buy SCM

 

Why formers should discuss SMM kena sued by Vendors Supplier for not paying them money mah...

 

From your forum posting, I am quite sure your entry price for Starhub was much higher than current price of $1.35. You better pray hard that It won' t privatize now. If not even the offer price with 30% premium, you might still underwater. You are just jio people buy this counter to help you stabilize price only

Furthermore, Starhub is a telco company. Very hard for a telco company grow organically or for overseas acquisition. Hardly any country allows their telco operator owns by foreigner. Look at what happened when TH entered Thai market.

Besides, any privatising, will have to take over Starhub' s liabilities lo.

chart_expert123      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 09:15) Posted: 😂 😂 😂 starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth. SCM all are opposite. Of course buy big and hold starhub. If privatise, surely more than M1 privatise at 2.06. Starhub is only 1.35 now. Starhub market cap only 2.2bil. SCM is 2.78bil. Only scammers scam to buy SCM. dcproperty      ( Date: 23-Dec-2021 20:22) Posted: Haha... someone hopes Starhub being privatised or takeover by white knight lo

 

Merry Christmas to everyone. May God gives some blessings to Sembcorp Marine.

better      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 21:26) Posted: Business Times seems to be very pro Sembmarine. Just look at the news report on the Arbitration....

 

Business Times seems to be very pro Sembmarine. Just look at the news report on the Arbitration....

 

?生 蛋 ?快 乐 。 🎊 🍾 🎄 🎁
Good health & good luck

 

I see, so I learned. To buy shares that exhibit negative growth in revenue and profit, but positive growth in liabilities. Sounds good 😊

better      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 15:32) Posted: CE_123 sees growth in Starhub' s numbers and say buy Starhub big big.. All I see is revenue and net profit shrinking.....the only item growing seems to be total liabilities. MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 15:25) Posted: Sorry, I have difficulty counting beyond 3 numbers. That's why I don't go to Batam for shopping. Specifically, what do all these figures mean, the growth is positive or negative?

 

CE_123 sees growth in Starhub' s numbers and say buy Starhub big big.. All I see is revenue and net profit shrinking.....the only item growing seems to be total liabilities.

MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 15:25) Posted: Sorry, I have difficulty counting beyond 3 numbers. That's why I don't go to Batam for shopping. Specifically, what do all these figures mean, the growth is positive or negative? better      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 14:58) Posted: " starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth..." Starhub' s financial numbers presented without comment (Source: Yahoo Finance) 2017 Total revenue- $2.400 billion Net income- $249 million Total liabilities- S2.007 billion 2018 Total revenue- $2.362 billion Net income- $201.7 million Total liabilities- $2.047 billion 2019 Total revenue- $2.330 billion Net income- $186.3 million Total liabilities- $2.158 billion Latest 12 months Total revenue- $2.042 billion Net income- $148.4 million Total liabilities- $2.304 billion

 

Sorry, I have difficulty counting beyond 3 numbers. That's why I don't go to Batam for shopping. Specifically, what do all these figures mean, the growth is positive or negative?

better      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 14:58) Posted: " starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth..." Starhub' s financial numbers presented without comment (Source: Yahoo Finance) 2017 Total revenue- $2.400 billion Net income- $249 million Total liabilities- S2.007 billion 2018 Total revenue- $2.362 billion Net income- $201.7 million Total liabilities- $2.047 billion 2019 Total revenue- $2.330 billion Net income- $186.3 million Total liabilities- $2.158 billion Latest 12 months Total revenue- $2.042 billion Net income- $148.4 million Total liabilities- $2.304 billion chart_expert123      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 09:15) Posted: 😂 😂 😂 starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth. SCM all are opposite. Of course buy big and hold starhub. If privatise, surely more than M1 privatise at 2.06. Starhub is only 1.35 now. Starhub market cap only 2.2bil. SCM is 2.78bil. Only scammers scam to buy SCM

 

" starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth..."

Starhub' s financial numbers presented without comment (Source: Yahoo Finance)

2017
Total revenue- $2.400 billion
Net income- $249 million
Total liabilities- S2.007 billion

2018
Total revenue- $2.362 billion
Net income- $201.7 million
Total liabilities- $2.047 billion

2019
Total revenue- $2.330 billion
Net income- $186.3 million
Total liabilities- $2.158 billion

Latest 12 months
Total revenue- $2.042 billion
Net income- $148.4 million
Total liabilities- $2.304 billion

chart_expert123      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 09:15) Posted: 😂 😂 😂 starhub revenue, profit and net cash flow all are in growth. SCM all are opposite. Of course buy big and hold starhub. If privatise, surely more than M1 privatise at 2.06. Starhub is only 1.35 now. Starhub market cap only 2.2bil. SCM is 2.78bil. Only scammers scam to buy SCM. dcproperty      ( Date: 23-Dec-2021 20:22) Posted: Haha... someone hopes Starhub being privatised or takeover by white knight lo

 

Opps, I forgot, even we retailers have to be their PRs, hopping from one table to another, but got no tips.

MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 13:56) Posted: As you mentioned, 5% of their cash balance. The only problem I see here is the major shareholder do nothing leaving us, retailers to defend against the Wall Street sharks. And retailers to support the company's finance all the time. That explains why the share turned into a jinx from the mouth of so many investors. Trust is like a mirror, once broken can never be fixed back again. SM has a long way to earn back that trust and confidence. It a MUST MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 13:48) Posted: Putting things in perspective, the amount is equivalent to 2 Good Class Bungalow. Or 2 penthouse at CanningHill Piers. The settlement amount is much more lower. Do you think that will tank SM for a company that is so lowly gea

 

Event StinkTel also got caught in the tax issue of $330m in Au.
Seem like many sing stocks has skeleton in their closet..

SCI write down after write down....haizzz...

 

The biggest problem is Trust. If people don't trust you, whatever you said, even if it's true, nobody believes. Even the lucky number 8 can still decay into a jinx number. As of today, we retailers have No 8 to defend us. So far so good 😊

MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 14:05) Posted: Take the worse scenario, 2 Good Class Bungalow can't tank SM. You need a lot more than that given the cash balance after the rights issue MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 14:03) Posted: Sure they did before they come to this stage. Not all claims are valid. So why settle. We don't know the contract. Look at KOM, $1.1b. Why settle if there is no merit

 

Take the worse scenario, 2 Good Class Bungalow can't tank SM. You need a lot more than that given the cash balance after the rights issue

MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 14:03) Posted: Sure they did before they come to this stage. Not all claims are valid. So why settle. We don't know the contract. Look at KOM, $1.1b. Why settle if there is no merits bystander1965      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 13:56) Posted: So only 2 good class bungalow, then why SCM doesn' t settle privately? That' s my point. Every penny counts now. So they have to be careful especially considering the sources of those fund right now. Otherwise, lowly geared or not, it will tank itself slowly. I am just stating facts and my opinion. No conjectures like certain expert here. I am not saying it' s going to 4 or 5 or 10 or 11. No crystal ball here. Market may not be bothered also. It certainly seemed so today.

 

Sure they did before they come to this stage. Not all claims are valid. So why settle. We don't know the contract. Look at KOM, $1.1b. Why settle if there is no merits

bystander1965      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 13:56) Posted: So only 2 good class bungalow, then why SCM doesn' t settle privately? That' s my point. Every penny counts now. So they have to be careful especially considering the sources of those fund right now. Otherwise, lowly geared or not, it will tank itself slowly. I am just stating facts and my opinion. No conjectures like certain expert here. I am not saying it' s going to 4 or 5 or 10 or 11. No crystal ball here. Market may not be bothered also. It certainly seemed so today.   MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 13:48) Posted: Putting things in perspective, the amount is equivalent to 2 Good Class Bungalow. Or 2 penthouse at CanningHill Piers. The settlement amount is much more lower. Do you think that will tank SM for a company that is so lowly gea

 

So only 2 good class bungalow, then why SCM doesn' t settle privately? That' s my point. Every penny counts now. So they have to be careful especially considering the sources of those fund right now. Otherwise, lowly geared or not, it will tank itself slowly.

I am just stating facts and my opinion. No conjectures like certain expert here. I am not saying it' s going to 4 or 5 or 10 or 11. No crystal ball here.

Market may not be bothered also. It certainly seemed so today.
 

MANFREDTMK      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 13:48) Posted: Putting things in perspective, the amount is equivalent to 2 Good Class Bungalow. Or 2 penthouse at CanningHill Piers. The settlement amount is much more lower. Do you think that will tank SM for a company that is so lowly gear bystander1965      ( Date: 24-Dec-2021 13:38) Posted: I hold a slightly different view. It' s more than 5% of their cash position. If today SCM (or anybody in fact) is happily chucking along, flushed with cash/projects, this probably would not have come to arbitration/light. Some form of settlement would have been reached privately and accounted for somewhere in the book perhaps buried. But now every penny counts. Just my opinion. It' s true SCM not necessarily has to pay all or even part. I guess there is difference in interpretation of the contracts.