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Nah. I dont think so
Most likely :
1. Sam Goi is very focused on Property Development. Sam may use GSH to do an M & A with KOP.
Synergies of human resources.
Also, Montigo is well managed with good reviews in Tripadvisor and Best Spa Resort Award recogniton.
Ong and Suparman may thus do a Montigo Resort in Sabah.
2. Syndicated Loan financing easily available with attractive interest rates with the backing of Shanghai super strong partner as well as the backing of Mr Sam Goi.
Most likely :
1. Sam Goi is very focused on Property Development. Sam may use GSH to do an M & A with KOP.
Synergies of human resources.
Also, Montigo is well managed with good reviews in Tripadvisor and Best Spa Resort Award recogniton.
Ong and Suparman may thus do a Montigo Resort in Sabah.
2. Syndicated Loan financing easily available with attractive interest rates with the backing of Shanghai super strong partner as well as the backing of Mr Sam Goi.
edwinjup ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 20:11) Posted:
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Waiting for 2 news..ground breaking and rights issue ( maybe)...
I think you got the concept all wrong. It is not just about Winterland . The Snow Resort. It is Mixed Use with residential too.
1 Fujian developer bid and chope a huge piece of land in 2nd Tier city Nanjing pukou district in 2003 for less than 1000 per sqm ppr. In 2004, launch phase 1 at 3000 per sq m . In 2005 phase 2 at 4000 per sq m. Progressively earning revenue, build and relaunch. In 2016, still launching, at 20 000 per sq m.
He is a multi billionaire now.
If KOP is the sole land owner, lagi good. But of course, not possible. All this " good privileges " mostly due to the credit of KOP powerful partner. I didnt know about KOP until Sam pumped in $ to hold 20% stake. Then I study a bit.
Chairman Ong is a super fast doer. Very fast action type. Look at the way she developed the iconic Singapore projects.
They may launch Phase 1 Residential soon. Then Revenue in. Then roll to Theme park, Hotel, mall development.
The partnership with the Chinese partners super important. Dont know how Sam do it. Maybe 40 % 30% 30 % (error just now as i calculate divide / 3 ....was wrong ) ...40% 20% 20% 20% ? Sam pumped in $ into JV with personal 20% stake. KOP and other Chinese partner allocate their 10% each to Mr Sam Goi.
1 Fujian developer bid and chope a huge piece of land in 2nd Tier city Nanjing pukou district in 2003 for less than 1000 per sqm ppr. In 2004, launch phase 1 at 3000 per sq m . In 2005 phase 2 at 4000 per sq m. Progressively earning revenue, build and relaunch. In 2016, still launching, at 20 000 per sq m.
He is a multi billionaire now.
If KOP is the sole land owner, lagi good. But of course, not possible. All this " good privileges " mostly due to the credit of KOP powerful partner. I didnt know about KOP until Sam pumped in $ to hold 20% stake. Then I study a bit.
Chairman Ong is a super fast doer. Very fast action type. Look at the way she developed the iconic Singapore projects.
They may launch Phase 1 Residential soon. Then Revenue in. Then roll to Theme park, Hotel, mall development.
The partnership with the Chinese partners super important. Dont know how Sam do it. Maybe 40 % 30% 30 % (error just now as i calculate divide / 3 ....was wrong ) ...40% 20% 20% 20% ? Sam pumped in $ into JV with personal 20% stake. KOP and other Chinese partner allocate their 10% each to Mr Sam Goi.
edwinjup ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 18:05) Posted:
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Walau.. u change ur username??....kop 2020 will be wonder.. with the opening of winterland... but b4 that. Buy and hold.tight tight 1 yr b4 opening. Now..wait for lower price then hoot some for coffee money...
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 17:32) Posted:
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Can 11m popiah do wonders...
S Goi buy at 5c.. if i am him ..i will take profit.. now 9c almost doubled his money
S Goi buy at 5c.. if i am him ..i will take profit.. now 9c almost doubled his money
1. That's why they roped Sam Goi in.
2. It could be Sam "is the chosen or preferred One" due to his solid connections in China.
3. So far, Sam has not have a very "landmark" property project that gives a WOW factor especially in China.
Sabah ok. That is important.
But this is almost a sure win Project in Shanghai. Millions of 外 省 的 中 国 人 aspire to move to Shanghai for the Residency Rights (上 海 户 口 ). Schools have been set up.
In 1998, very easy . Now ? Very difficult.
临 港 is just beside Shanghai mega port Yangshan港 。
Lots of shipping trading logistics offices will be set up there.
You know Smurfs ? Smurf Theme Park by French Media Group will be opening there too.
If KOP launch Phase 1 Residential Project with WintaStar Mixed Use as 亮 点 ， easy to market and sold out . Even at 25000 yuan per sqm, 1000 units of 90 sq m per unit avg revenue = rmb 2 25 billion ....easily
Remember : 25 K yuan per sqm is at most conservative price. It can be marketed higher.
AND, KOP Consortium Partner financially and politically super strong , Shanghai Disneyland major shareholder and like a govt planner for 临 港 region。
2. It could be Sam "is the chosen or preferred One" due to his solid connections in China.
3. So far, Sam has not have a very "landmark" property project that gives a WOW factor especially in China.
Sabah ok. That is important.
But this is almost a sure win Project in Shanghai. Millions of 外 省 的 中 国 人 aspire to move to Shanghai for the Residency Rights (上 海 户 口 ). Schools have been set up.
In 1998, very easy . Now ? Very difficult.
临 港 is just beside Shanghai mega port Yangshan港 。
Lots of shipping trading logistics offices will be set up there.
You know Smurfs ? Smurf Theme Park by French Media Group will be opening there too.
If KOP launch Phase 1 Residential Project with WintaStar Mixed Use as 亮 点 ， easy to market and sold out . Even at 25000 yuan per sqm, 1000 units of 90 sq m per unit avg revenue = rmb 2 25 billion ....easily
Remember : 25 K yuan per sqm is at most conservative price. It can be marketed higher.
AND, KOP Consortium Partner financially and politically super strong , Shanghai Disneyland major shareholder and like a govt planner for 临 港 region。
edwinjup ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 17:09) Posted:
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you and bernardc troll here no problem.
All these years, Mr Sam Goi track records are very good as a sincere long term investor.
So, keep trolling. Enjoy it : )
All these years, Mr Sam Goi track records are very good as a sincere long term investor.
So, keep trolling. Enjoy it : )
idwish ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:45) Posted:
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Hi Edwin, wait ah... i reply u on this later.
edwinjup ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 17:09) Posted:
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First ...kop must find the money to pay for the land first.......
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:32) Posted:
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kenna corn popiah....
idwish ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:45) Posted:
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Aiyo Popian king becomes Prata king.....
Even 15 cts per share for KOP is under valued.
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:32) Posted:
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The land prics is S$165 mil / 3 = KOP share is S$ 55 mil.
If you sell the land right now to Chin developers, you can easily sell at S$ 600 mil .
Divide / 3 = S$200 mil
Gain per party KOP will pocket : $145 mil.
What is the market cap of KOP now ?
If you sell the land right now to Chin developers, you can easily sell at S$ 600 mil .
Divide / 3 = S$200 mil
Gain per party KOP will pocket : $145 mil.
What is the market cap of KOP now ?
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:13) Posted:
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Know Oei HL and Chew Hua Seng about Raffles Edu. The gist is ?
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:20) Posted:
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Price popped like balloon.... LOL
Lower price pls
Because Chinese like convenience. If KO add Office Building to the mixed use, housing logistics and shipping companies, who dont wang to walk to work ?
Walk to resort facilities some more.
Malls ....etc
Walk to resort facilities some more.
Malls ....etc
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:17) Posted:
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Vanke currently selling avg 400 units at 28000 yuan per sqm per month.
If KOP launches residential project sale next year, dont be surprised sold out in 2 hour sale. Just ask Yanlord : )
If KOP launches residential project sale next year, dont be surprised sold out in 2 hour sale. Just ask Yanlord : )
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:13) Posted:
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Go lower . Buy . A lot buy at above 0.10.
bernardc ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:05) Posted:
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KOP 上 海 临 港 land 4100 yuan per sqm ppr.
Now average selling price there 25000 yuan per sqm.
Vanke Poly Country Garden bid 3 plots of land nearby KOP this March all above 20000 yuan per sqm ppr.
The avg selling price there expected to hit 35 000 per sqm soon. Various Theme parks and Logistics park plans opening.
Attractiveness there ? SHANGHAI Residency
Those other provinves will want to buy houses there for shanghai 户 口 。 talents and skilled workers faster.
Now average selling price there 25000 yuan per sqm.
Vanke Poly Country Garden bid 3 plots of land nearby KOP this March all above 20000 yuan per sqm ppr.
The avg selling price there expected to hit 35 000 per sqm soon. Various Theme parks and Logistics park plans opening.
Attractiveness there ? SHANGHAI Residency
Those other provinves will want to buy houses there for shanghai 户 口 。 talents and skilled workers faster.
deedee6699 ( Date: 20-Oct-2017 16:05) Posted:
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