Post Reply
261-280 of 443
It is good that you did your rebalancing if your current porfolio didn' t work out for you. You may lose some, but at least keep your capital intact to reinvest in other counters.
OUE has already been in the downtrend over the years. Nothing can prop up the share price even if they sell properties and reap millions of profits. This is aleady a signal that BBs are not keen on the counter at all.
OUE has already been in the downtrend over the years. Nothing can prop up the share price even if they sell properties and reap millions of profits. This is aleady a signal that BBs are not keen on the counter at all.
noslen ( Date: 23-Sep-2019 15:12) Posted:
|
oh by the way, it just dropped to the pre-oakwood sale's price (1.46) after how many days (1 or 2?) but of course you are not focus on the share price so it doesn't matter right...
ytthong1951 ( Date: 23-Sep-2019 15:06) Posted:
|
Some people continue to live self denial even in stock investing where share price keeps dropping for a long period of time without rebalancing.
Not just in OUE, stocks such HPT has been dropping from US$1.01 to 0.17 over the years. Imagine those who subscribed the IPO and hold until now, how much are they making even with dividend payout?
Unfortunately, not every retail investors are able to cut loss or move into other stocks if the porfolios are doing badly.
I have seen many retail living in self-denial for years without realising that their porfolios are already in the red.
Not just in OUE, stocks such HPT has been dropping from US$1.01 to 0.17 over the years. Imagine those who subscribed the IPO and hold until now, how much are they making even with dividend payout?
Unfortunately, not every retail investors are able to cut loss or move into other stocks if the porfolios are doing badly.
I have seen many retail living in self-denial for years without realising that their porfolios are already in the red.
I don't have a preference for property stocks and would look to invest in a company that have some interesting stories that i think would be a catalyst for a good run. I am not biased against the nationality of the company and invested in OUE a couple of times and every single time regretted my decision yet i still get sucked in thinking it will be different this time. Anyway, hope that was my last time putting my money in OUE.
TA_Expert ( Date: 23-Sep-2019 11:19) Posted:
|
' sucks dry retail' implies that it is a cheat co. If so, why was MAS or SGX not doing anything? Why are they not censoring or delisting it but approved its recent merger with a former minister
in charge who vetoed the sale of Oakwood to it? If it is such a bad co. as you say, how come it could pay 5c,5c,3ct & 13ct each yr fr. 2015 to2018. If it is one of the worst cos. as you say, how come
it can make 250m or more this yr ? And how come the banks are lending so that it has a debt headroom of 1b enabling it as it says to acq. ppties & do AEI quickly to be a fund manager ? Remember
we are a top financial centre & you let cheat get by, how are we to grow & prosper as a financial hub? wyeo.
in charge who vetoed the sale of Oakwood to it? If it is such a bad co. as you say, how come it could pay 5c,5c,3ct & 13ct each yr fr. 2015 to2018. If it is one of the worst cos. as you say, how come
it can make 250m or more this yr ? And how come the banks are lending so that it has a debt headroom of 1b enabling it as it says to acq. ppties & do AEI quickly to be a fund manager ? Remember
we are a top financial centre & you let cheat get by, how are we to grow & prosper as a financial hub? wyeo.
This is on of the worst property stocks.
If you like to invest in property stocks, CMT is definitely a better buy especially when it was trading at $2.00 the last time.
One old wise guy told me before that never invest into Indonesia companies listed in SGX because they are here to suck dry Singapore retail. If you scan SGX, you will see almost all Indonesia counters in SGX collapse since IPOs.
If you like to invest in property stocks, CMT is definitely a better buy especially when it was trading at $2.00 the last time.
One old wise guy told me before that never invest into Indonesia companies listed in SGX because they are here to suck dry Singapore retail. If you scan SGX, you will see almost all Indonesia counters in SGX collapse since IPOs.
noslen ( Date: 23-Sep-2019 11:11) Posted:
|
🤔 🤔 ok... i don't know what else to focus other than share price 🤣 🤣 Anyway, as i said, i am out, just not my kind of company that i would like to put my money on. If it goes up, good for you then. Have fun.
And let' s say that it is so stagnant that it has to fold up. At 65% discount, can we not get 35% out of its ppties in Shenton, Raffles, Orchard etc.? You just ' ve news of the Royal bros. flipping
ppty not as prestigious as Oue' s Oakwood at 160m with 67m profit, all within a yr. It' s the same with the Wangz hotel albeit with less profit. ???? wyeo.
ppty not as prestigious as Oue' s Oakwood at 160m with 67m profit, all within a yr. It' s the same with the Wangz hotel albeit with less profit. ???? wyeo.
You' re too focussed on the current esp. the sh. price when sh. is abt. the future. Starship too said abt. the same, the sh. going round & round when it was below 1.40 then, before shooting up
to 1.80 because of divestment of Oue Dt,office. This yr, it has divested M.Mandarin,Nassim Bungalow & now Oakwood, the estimated total profit this yr is $250m or more. Can you call this
stagant by any measure?
You also say that divestment is stale news. Don' t you know that divestment, acquistion & AEI are the life-blood of a good ppty co.? without wh. they cannot provide a good yield to shareholders? wyeo.
to 1.80 because of divestment of Oue Dt,office. This yr, it has divested M.Mandarin,Nassim Bungalow & now Oakwood, the estimated total profit this yr is $250m or more. Can you call this
stagant by any measure?
You also say that divestment is stale news. Don' t you know that divestment, acquistion & AEI are the life-blood of a good ppty co.? without wh. they cannot provide a good yield to shareholders? wyeo.
At current price, is it low? Because at 1.46 or 1.47, you don't even see buyers coming in, let alone now at 1.51. Good or bad company, if business is stagnant and trading volume is low with little buying interest, well it's still hopeless 😊
ytthong1951 ( Date: 19-Sep-2019 11:12) Posted:
|
I' ve just read in BT that two ppties were flipped within mths for 30-70% profits, one 67m, the other 14m. I asked if Oue' s ppties in our Financ. district, Orchard & Changi Airport inferior to
these. Surely not ! The mkt goes by yield. So what, if they ' ll sell it down to compensate for the risk they take. Fair enough, but if they sell it too low, buy. Why? Ppty isn' t like some other stocks
where the price keeps going down, you ' ve to be very, very careful for the chances are that the co. is likely losing busi. badly & cd fold up. Good ppty in good location as the presid. or chairman.
capitaland just said is defensive. Its scarcity drives its price up & up. Look at what Savill say today that hospitality assets are bought not so much as a yield play, but for capital preservation.
As to wheth., it ' ll return to its glory days, much depends on the other key, its ability to succeed as a an asset management player. What it is doing presently is on the right track, sell its asset
slightly below the list price. Do your aum quickly & trade your ppties at the right time pretty briskly to win investors' confidence. Fr. what I see, it' s rectifying its mistakes & not brood over it! wyeo
these. Surely not ! The mkt goes by yield. So what, if they ' ll sell it down to compensate for the risk they take. Fair enough, but if they sell it too low, buy. Why? Ppty isn' t like some other stocks
where the price keeps going down, you ' ve to be very, very careful for the chances are that the co. is likely losing busi. badly & cd fold up. Good ppty in good location as the presid. or chairman.
capitaland just said is defensive. Its scarcity drives its price up & up. Look at what Savill say today that hospitality assets are bought not so much as a yield play, but for capital preservation.
As to wheth., it ' ll return to its glory days, much depends on the other key, its ability to succeed as a an asset management player. What it is doing presently is on the right track, sell its asset
slightly below the list price. Do your aum quickly & trade your ppties at the right time pretty briskly to win investors' confidence. Fr. what I see, it' s rectifying its mistakes & not brood over it! wyeo
If you sell it to very low, you ' ll see whether the retail is ' sucked in' or they ' ll come. I too will come in. Why? Because it' s relatively safe stock albeit not as exciting as one expects it to be. wyeo
The fortune of Oue sh. be getting better by the day with L. Karawaci no longer a drag on its share. The latter' s bond & sh. price ' ve shot up as reported recently in BT, being helmed by a new
hand who succeeded in managing a tech payment platform that Grab holds a stake. Oue is aspiring to be a fund manager, a sure-win business if you ' ve a good reputation in managing assets.
But first it has to manage its reits well before trust can come. It is not new in this having a fund management co. known as Argyle Street .... . It is h/r a good sign that its merged reit now has a
headroom of $1b, enabling it to acquire good ppties & do aum quickly so that it can also divest matured ppties & make good profit at both transactions. wyeo.
hand who succeeded in managing a tech payment platform that Grab holds a stake. Oue is aspiring to be a fund manager, a sure-win business if you ' ve a good reputation in managing assets.
But first it has to manage its reits well before trust can come. It is not new in this having a fund management co. known as Argyle Street .... . It is h/r a good sign that its merged reit now has a
headroom of $1b, enabling it to acquire good ppties & do aum quickly so that it can also divest matured ppties & make good profit at both transactions. wyeo.
Agreed it's not going back to its glory days and looking at the volume, retail are not getting suck in too.... so i am out.
OUE will never go back to its glory days.
After sucking the retail money dry, they will just let it remains as status quo.
After sucking the retail money dry, they will just let it remains as status quo.
This Oue is not exciting or fantastic as yet but if they pay a special div. of 2c making it to 5c for the yr, what is there to complain? At 1.53, the yield is abt. double that of SSB' s. If interest rate keeps,
going down because of falling growth like in Japan & Europe, where ' re you going to put your fds with ssb following suit. Ppty stock is still better if it can give such a yield & ' is relatively safe if the ppties
' re in key cities like S' pore. The President or Capitaland in the recent HT mint Asia ... also says so. I' m expecting a special of 2ct with the divestment of M.Mandarin & now Oakw. to Dhl(S) p.l. wyeo
going down because of falling growth like in Japan & Europe, where ' re you going to put your fds with ssb following suit. Ppty stock is still better if it can give such a yield & ' is relatively safe if the ppties
' re in key cities like S' pore. The President or Capitaland in the recent HT mint Asia ... also says so. I' m expecting a special of 2ct with the divestment of M.Mandarin & now Oakw. to Dhl(S) p.l. wyeo
Plenty queuing up to buy and sell but none will make the move... interesting 🤔
Sorry but just my opinion that all these divesting or recycling properties are getting boring. They need more exciting stories.
The sale of the US ppty cd come any time now for they expect to sell it by fall as reported by analyst. The rising US$ against S$ cd give them more room to seal the deal. The purpose of
the merger is to divest or recycle its ppties. All these ' ll ' ve to take place sooner or later as they shift gear. wyeo.
the merger is to divest or recycle its ppties. All these ' ll ' ve to take place sooner or later as they shift gear. wyeo.
i don' t see anything that can push the share price nor dividend in the near future.