All 3 banks pull STI up today ...
Dbs is up 54c towards its scrip dividend offer 21.04 
UOB is also up 42c .....still interesting to note that its over $1 cheaper then DBS . ( it was always higher then DBS before C19) 
OCBC...up 21c  personally I think there is room for this to rise .....still trading at 0.8x its bk of 10.87
Will the last Q2 result b the worst for them ?? 
Dbs is up 54c towards its scrip dividend offer 21.04 
UOB is also up 42c .....still interesting to note that its over $1 cheaper then DBS . ( it was always higher then DBS before C19) 
OCBC...up 21c  personally I think there is room for this to rise .....still trading at 0.8x its bk of 10.87
Will the last Q2 result b the worst for them ?? 
Local banks maintain credit resilience despite difficult second quarter
Ng Qi Siang  Published on Tue, Aug 25, 2020 / 3:29 PM GMT+8 / Updated 2 days ago
 
Like the deep roots of a mighty oak amid a ferocious storm, the strong capital reserves of Singapore&rsquo s banks should stabilise their credit position despite a harrowing 2Q20. PhillipCapital research analyst Tay Wee Kuang has therefore maintained his " neutral" call on the Singapore banking sector. Recovery in business, he says, will benefit non-interest income as banks are likely to be past troughs in income levels.  Local banks reported sharp declines in net interest margin (NIM) in 2Q20 with double digit declines in base points across the board y-o-y. The quarterly average NIM of 1.57% across all banks is approximately 10 base points than the previous quarterly low of 1.65% in 2013 despite similar interest rates. 
&ldquo The sharp decline was exacerbated by huge deposit inflows experienced during the quarter as well as a lagged repricing of deposits. As such, we are expecting NIM to recover slightly in subsequent quarters with repricing in deposits and liquidity outflow,&rdquo writes Tay in a broker&rsquo s report issued on August 24.
UOB saw the sharpest NIM drop, falling 33 base points from 1.71 in 1Q2020 to 1.48 in 2Q2020. On the other hand, OCBC saw its NIM fall the least. It lost 19 base points from 1.76 in 1Q2020 to 1.6 in 2Q2020. 
On the bright side, August has seen lending rates stabilising, potentially easing some of the downward pressures on NIMs going forward. While the 3-month SIBOR (Singapore interbank offered rate) fell 10 base points below 1H20 lows to 0.41% from 0.53%, it has recovered from a low of 0.15% in 1H20 to 0.21% currently. These are comparable to quarterly lows observed in 2013, where 3-month SIBOR stood at 0.37%.  Unfortunately, loan growths turned negative in June for the first time since 2016, with a 0.98% reduction y-o-y. Consumer loans fell sharply by 3.44% y-o-y as Singapore exits from the circuit breaker measures in April and May. While there was weakness across the board, credit card loans are slowly recovering, growing by 2.9% m-o-m. 
Business loans, on the other hand, fell by 0.55% y-o-y. This was due to a fall in loans across key industries such as general commerce (-6.2% y-o-y), financial institutions (-2.5%) and professional & private individuals (-9.6%).  This offset growth in manufacturing (+1.2%), transport, storage & communication (+7.2%) and business services (+23.8%).
But well-aware of the coming Covid-19 storm, Singapore&rsquo s banks are acting early to build up their allowances and reserves in anticipation of deteriorating asset quality. 1Q20 has seen banks provide guidance for credit costs between 80 to 130 base points, which will be spread over two years. The banks have maintained this credit cost guidance and have built up reserves between 20 to 45% of their guided credit costs. 
" Book-building seems well underway for DBS and OCBC, as increase in reserves in 1H20 represents at least 25% of total expected allowances to be booked over the next two years in the worst-case scenario where credit costs hit 130 base points," remarks Tay. 
UOB' s seemingly lower reserve increment of $709 million was due to lower specific provisions (SP) recognised in 1H2020. Its GP increment of $671 million in 1H20 is comparable to DBS and OCBC. " Prudent reserves by the banks continue to put them in a good position to weather the economic impact as a result of the pandemic," Tay writes.
Banks will cheer, however, improved derivative performance and double-digit SDAV growth y-o-y in July. SDAV saw a 15% y-o-y improvement in July to $1.21 billion while August-to-date data reflects a 24% y-o-y improvement, putting SGX on a strong footing for the new financial year. 
DDAV rebounded in July as well to 1.05 million contracts, a 27% increment y-o-y. This is in contrast to 4Q20, which saw an average DDAV of 0.89 million contracts -- 18% less y-o-y. SGX&rsquo s FTSE Taiwan Index Futures contract debuted in July to more than 80,000 contracts in less than 10 trading days in July.
" SGX will be rolling out a suite of equity derivative products with FTSE that will replace expiring MSCI products. We believe that SGX will see a muted impact from the MSCIcontract cessation  with the FTSE replacements, which should see faster uptake as compared to new product launches by SGX previously," Tay comments. 
 
 
  Based on 1H2020 figures, savings from a dividend cut will reduce the impact on CET-1 levels of the respective banks by 0.2% for UOB to 0.4% for DBS and OCBC. Shareholders of DBS, UOB and OCBC will, unfortunately, have to make do with no more than $0.72, $0.78 and $0.318 per share respectively, lowering yields between 3-4%. Fortunately, banks will be required to implement a scrip dividend option for the next year, with OCBC the only local bank offering a discount of 10% on scrip shares. 
  As of 3.15pm, DBS is trading 0.29 points up at $21.08 with a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 9.85 and a 6.93% dividend yield. OCBC is trading 0.16 points up at $8.77 with a P/E ratio of 10.16 and a 3.69% dividend yield. UOB is trading 0.27 points up at $20.11 with a P/E ratio of 9.37 at a 4.74% dividend yield.
&ldquo The sharp decline was exacerbated by huge deposit inflows experienced during the quarter as well as a lagged repricing of deposits. As such, we are expecting NIM to recover slightly in subsequent quarters with repricing in deposits and liquidity outflow,&rdquo writes Tay in a broker&rsquo s report issued on August 24.
UOB saw the sharpest NIM drop, falling 33 base points from 1.71 in 1Q2020 to 1.48 in 2Q2020. On the other hand, OCBC saw its NIM fall the least. It lost 19 base points from 1.76 in 1Q2020 to 1.6 in 2Q2020. 
On the bright side, August has seen lending rates stabilising, potentially easing some of the downward pressures on NIMs going forward. While the 3-month SIBOR (Singapore interbank offered rate) fell 10 base points below 1H20 lows to 0.41% from 0.53%, it has recovered from a low of 0.15% in 1H20 to 0.21% currently. These are comparable to quarterly lows observed in 2013, where 3-month SIBOR stood at 0.37%.  Unfortunately, loan growths turned negative in June for the first time since 2016, with a 0.98% reduction y-o-y. Consumer loans fell sharply by 3.44% y-o-y as Singapore exits from the circuit breaker measures in April and May. While there was weakness across the board, credit card loans are slowly recovering, growing by 2.9% m-o-m. 
Business loans, on the other hand, fell by 0.55% y-o-y. This was due to a fall in loans across key industries such as general commerce (-6.2% y-o-y), financial institutions (-2.5%) and professional & private individuals (-9.6%).  This offset growth in manufacturing (+1.2%), transport, storage & communication (+7.2%) and business services (+23.8%).
But well-aware of the coming Covid-19 storm, Singapore&rsquo s banks are acting early to build up their allowances and reserves in anticipation of deteriorating asset quality. 1Q20 has seen banks provide guidance for credit costs between 80 to 130 base points, which will be spread over two years. The banks have maintained this credit cost guidance and have built up reserves between 20 to 45% of their guided credit costs. 
" Book-building seems well underway for DBS and OCBC, as increase in reserves in 1H20 represents at least 25% of total expected allowances to be booked over the next two years in the worst-case scenario where credit costs hit 130 base points," remarks Tay. 
UOB' s seemingly lower reserve increment of $709 million was due to lower specific provisions (SP) recognised in 1H2020. Its GP increment of $671 million in 1H20 is comparable to DBS and OCBC. " Prudent reserves by the banks continue to put them in a good position to weather the economic impact as a result of the pandemic," Tay writes.
Banks will cheer, however, improved derivative performance and double-digit SDAV growth y-o-y in July. SDAV saw a 15% y-o-y improvement in July to $1.21 billion while August-to-date data reflects a 24% y-o-y improvement, putting SGX on a strong footing for the new financial year. 
DDAV rebounded in July as well to 1.05 million contracts, a 27% increment y-o-y. This is in contrast to 4Q20, which saw an average DDAV of 0.89 million contracts -- 18% less y-o-y. SGX&rsquo s FTSE Taiwan Index Futures contract debuted in July to more than 80,000 contracts in less than 10 trading days in July.
" SGX will be rolling out a suite of equity derivative products with FTSE that will replace expiring MSCI products. We believe that SGX will see a muted impact from the MSCIcontract cessation  with the FTSE replacements, which should see faster uptake as compared to new product launches by SGX previously," Tay comments. 
 
 
 
But it may take a while for these green shoots to translate into dividends, as MAS has called on banks to cap dividends for the next four quarters at 60% of their respective FY19 amount. The move was intended to shore up capital reserves and ensure that sufficient funds are available to assist the economy through lending. 
  Based on 1H2020 figures, savings from a dividend cut will reduce the impact on CET-1 levels of the respective banks by 0.2% for UOB to 0.4% for DBS and OCBC. Shareholders of DBS, UOB and OCBC will, unfortunately, have to make do with no more than $0.72, $0.78 and $0.318 per share respectively, lowering yields between 3-4%. Fortunately, banks will be required to implement a scrip dividend option for the next year, with OCBC the only local bank offering a discount of 10% on scrip shares. 
  As of 3.15pm, DBS is trading 0.29 points up at $21.08 with a price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 9.85 and a 6.93% dividend yield. OCBC is trading 0.16 points up at $8.77 with a P/E ratio of 10.16 and a 3.69% dividend yield. UOB is trading 0.27 points up at $20.11 with a P/E ratio of 9.37 at a 4.74% dividend yield.
Gd run for our 3 banks .... UOB and OCBC are both still trading below their BOOK value ....aro 0.8x
Only DBS is trading at book of aro 21. 
DYODD
Only DBS is trading at book of aro 21. 
DYODD
OCBC xd tmr and the whole market drop .....first due to USA / esp the 3 actions on HK mrkt    will it drop bad later
Wilmar ? ADM cut holding by 5% ...and take profit ...50c drop with listing comng up ?? ( will it ) 
Market is approaching the 2500 support .....bad bad for STI 
Wilmar ? ADM cut holding by 5% ...and take profit ...50c drop with listing comng up ?? ( will it ) 
Market is approaching the 2500 support .....bad bad for STI 
All 3 banks rise today .......but not forgetting 
DBS XD tmr w 18c 
OCBC XD 21st w 15.9c
UOB xd 26th w 39c ........
now the guess wld be the drop after XD which shortist might be aiming 
Dyodd
DBS XD tmr w 18c 
OCBC XD 21st w 15.9c
UOB xd 26th w 39c ........
now the guess wld be the drop after XD which shortist might be aiming 
Dyodd
Singapore banks &ndash DBS ahead of the curve on general provisions
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Last week, the three local banks announced their earnings reports for the second quarter of 2020 (2Q20) which posted sharp declines as benchmark rates fell, and with more loan loss provisions set aside. With loan moratoriums unwinding at the end of the year, the banks stay cautious, as they fear the final blow from the pandemic has yet to hit.
Read on for excerpts from a Macquarie Research (MQ) note published on 10 August 2020 with adjusted target prices following earnings reports, and how the banks are exposed to the risk of bad loans resulting from Moratoria loans&hellip
Key points
- DBS and OCBC have moved further ahead of the curve relative to worst case provisions anticipated over two years (approximately 39% done already at 1H20).
- Earnings adjusted post reporting to capture front-loaded provisions and updated guidance on Net Interest Margins (NIMs), average -5.6%/+1.7% for 2020-2021.
- MQ re-iterates its Outperform rating on DBS. MQ downgrades OCBC to Neutral as forward catalysts are lacking. MQ removes the stock from the Marquee List.
Key themes and outlook for the Singapore banks
NIMs affected by strong deposit flows.  As MQ highlighted heading into the results, a large part of the NIM compression has been due to strong low-cost deposit flows (S$113 billion equivalent in 1H20, +21.6% across the three lenders).
DBS quantified that 0.06% of its 0.27% year-to-date NIM compression was directly attributed to the expanded earning asset base of additional deposits invested in risk-free liquidity (MQ estimates an average 0.03% across the three banks).
Credit outlook remains.  The banks affirmed views on credit charges over 2020-2021 at 1-1.3% over 2 years. DBS again utilised a period of above-trend revenue to front-load loan loss allowances, which means 2H20 has scope for lower sequential expenses.
UOB appears set to lift marginally next two quarters to reach its target (MQ estimates approximately 24% on 1H20 run-rate levels). There was minimal nonperforming loan (NPL) formation during 2Q through the lockdown period OCBC&rsquo s specific provision appeared to be for legacy offshore oil services assets, which was a surprise.
Moratoria loans mixed depending on segments and geography.  The lowest level of moratoria/government assistance loans was reported by DBS at 6%. UOB had 16% across its portfolio, but this was skewed by Malaysia (60%) and Thailand (30%). OCBC was at 10% and all three banks believe this has peaked. A proportion of these loans will need to be restructured and some will end up as NPL (management expectations are 10-20% at this stage).
Outlook is balanced by a rebound in fees, strong capital, yields, and valuations.  Fee income should have troughed in 2Q20, MQ expects wealth to recover as markets have stabilised and branches are open cards will be structurally lower due to the absence of travel (approximately 15% contribution).
Medium term, the banks have a strong opportunity to parlay strong external liquidity flows into wealth products or facilitate property investment. Average capital ratio CET-1 ratios of 14% compare favourably to the 12.5% regulatory level and 13.5% management targets. Dividends were  pre-emptively capped  by the Monetary Authority of Singapore at 60% of FY19 levels and the resultant 4% sector yield is in line with global peers in developed markets.
DBS preferred, downgrading OCBC to  Neutral
DBS is MQ&rsquo s preferred exposure. The bank is ahead of the curve on general provisions translating to the highest peer-relative level of loan loss reserving despite lowest moratorium loans (6%). The bank has also registered the highest level of current and savings account (CASA) deposit flows moving to a very strong 68% CASA ratio.
MQ downgrades OCBC to Neutral from Outperform and remove from the Marquee list. The imposition of a 10% discount on scrip dividends is a negative. A second round of &lsquo catch up&rsquo provisions on oil-services collateral raises questions on asset quality, especially as the bank has the lowest level of peer-relative reserving.
MQ maintains an Outperform rating for DBS with a revised price target of S$24.10/share
- MQ downgrades OCBC to Neutral rating with a revised price target of S$8.85/share
There is really nothing to speak for red dot like Spore .....pot calling the kettle black for USA n China. 
USA is a known big bro bully for a long time ....but CCP is a rising big BULLY too ....look at S China sea n the act on Spore tankers back from Tw. 
( wld China darn to hit those tankers if its from USA.....its smaller countries that this new rising bully darn to act ) 
So totally agree....let these 2 bullies fight it out .....unfortunately many will get hurt 
 
USA is a known big bro bully for a long time ....but CCP is a rising big BULLY too ....look at S China sea n the act on Spore tankers back from Tw. 
( wld China darn to hit those tankers if its from USA.....its smaller countries that this new rising bully darn to act ) 
So totally agree....let these 2 bullies fight it out .....unfortunately many will get hurt 
 
Siwomp ( Date: 11-Aug-2020 15:45) Posted:
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Wow DBS is at 20.80 and yet UOB is only 19.50 .....a cool $1.30 different .....just after this qtr result .....not too long ago UOB use to be 30/50c higher then DBS
A change of fortune. or what ? 
 
A change of fortune. or what ? 
 
All the news media have been playing down UOB with scary bogeyman story of how UOB has the highest SME loans and at risk of default. 
Trump calls thes Fake News Media. 

Trump calls thes Fake News Media. 


FATABA ( Date: 11-Aug-2020 15:43) Posted:
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Wow DBS is at 20.80 and yet UOB is only 19.50 .....a cool $1.30 different .....just after this qtr result .....not too long ago UOB use to be 30/50c higher then DBS
A change of fortune. or what ? 
 
A change of fortune. or what ? 
 
2Q GDP contracted 13.2% ,,,,this is our worst qtr on record and expect FULL yr 2020 or nrg 7% ,,,,,,,,:((
Siwomp ( Date: 11-Aug-2020 14:48) Posted:
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Neither Trump nor the USA owns the whole world.
It' s one thing to tell American companies not to deal with certain ppl or certain company. But the USA has no right to command the rest of the world to sanction certain ppl or company.
It' s disgraceful that no country and no world organisation even dare to condemn such imperialistic acts by Trump and the USA!!!   
If the world allows Trump and his policies to go on, then all other countries shd also demand the rest of the world to sanction every person that they don' t like.
It' s one thing to tell American companies not to deal with certain ppl or certain company. But the USA has no right to command the rest of the world to sanction certain ppl or company.
It' s disgraceful that no country and no world organisation even dare to condemn such imperialistic acts by Trump and the USA!!!   
If the world allows Trump and his policies to go on, then all other countries shd also demand the rest of the world to sanction every person that they don' t like.
Siwomp ( Date: 11-Aug-2020 14:42) Posted:
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Whole overall mkt is worry on CHina USA cold world .....usa Dow is push up by new budget package .....
Spore is always caught in the middle 
 
Spore is always caught in the middle 
 
Siwomp ( Date: 11-Aug-2020 14:42) Posted:
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Yes upside back to 9.5!!
allen19 ( Date: 07-Aug-2020 14:43) Posted:
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https://www.straitstimes.com/business/banking/ocbc-q2-profit-falls-40-...
Guys, here' s what the management says, &ldquo The emergence of economies towards the road to recovery will be slow and challenging. We will continue to contain all discretionary expenditure, including management compensation,&rdquo he added.
Eighty-eight per cent of such loans across its operating markets such as Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong are fully secured.
I am less bearish than before and technically, nice to see a trendline pullback and this is often followed by a reversal in trend. So likely there is more upside coming!


 
Guys, here' s what the management says, &ldquo The emergence of economies towards the road to recovery will be slow and challenging. We will continue to contain all discretionary expenditure, including management compensation,&rdquo he added.
Eighty-eight per cent of such loans across its operating markets such as Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong are fully secured.
I am less bearish than before and technically, nice to see a trendline pullback and this is often followed by a reversal in trend. So likely there is more upside coming!


 
OCBC 15.9cts, okay lah. Better than your prediction.
 
 
FATABA ( Date: 07-Aug-2020 10:41) Posted:
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It all depends on yr horizon ....timing .....LOL 
Many medical companies ( which I am not saying is not good ) can be crashing down when the pandemic Vaccine or solution found by others
Whatever, not all growth stock do get into growth ?
Similarly our 3 big banks are still aro and should still be aro when all things are back .......its all timing / which no one can tell 
Happy investing. ( in the mean time, lucky that dividend investor are still paid to wait )
DYODD
Many medical companies ( which I am not saying is not good ) can be crashing down when the pandemic Vaccine or solution found by others
Whatever, not all growth stock do get into growth ?
Similarly our 3 big banks are still aro and should still be aro when all things are back .......its all timing / which no one can tell 
Happy investing. ( in the mean time, lucky that dividend investor are still paid to wait )
DYODD
Siwomp ( Date: 07-Aug-2020 10:58) Posted:
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Wow after Q2 result ......UOB is a cool $1 lower then DBS .....hmm
DYODD
DYODD
All 3 banks result are out ...w DBS doing the best again . 
All 3 are paying dividend ( shit as per MAS guideline .....cld hv allow this 2nd qtr payout then impliment mah !! over conservative as normal) 
DBS 18c ( qtrly) .UOB 39c , OCBC 15.9c .all paying above 3.5% dividend w UOB paying most base on current price 
NOT forgetting the extra large PROVISION set aside  ( let hope its not fully used / then return to profit when this C19 is over or settle ) 
Honestly all 3 banks are again profitable .....which is the navy of many in the world. 
DYODD
All 3 are paying dividend ( shit as per MAS guideline .....cld hv allow this 2nd qtr payout then impliment mah !! over conservative as normal) 
DBS 18c ( qtrly) .UOB 39c , OCBC 15.9c .all paying above 3.5% dividend w UOB paying most base on current price 
NOT forgetting the extra large PROVISION set aside  ( let hope its not fully used / then return to profit when this C19 is over or settle ) 
Honestly all 3 banks are again profitable .....which is the navy of many in the world. 
DYODD
Dividend 15.9c as against my expectation of 15c.  A very large provision set for OCBC 
OCBC Group Reported First Half 2020 Net Profit of S$1.43 billion
Second quarter earnings rose 5% from the first quarter to S$730 million
Singapore, 7 August 2020 &ndash Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation Limited (&ldquo OCBC Bank&rdquo ) reported its financial results for the first half of 2020 (&ldquo 1H20&rdquo ).
Group net profit for 1H20 was S$1.43 billion, 42% lower than a year ago, after prudently setting aside significantly higher allowances
against expected credit losses on a forward-looking basis in the deteriorating economic environment brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic.
Net profit for the second quarter (&ldquo 2Q20&rdquo ) was S$730 million, up 5% from the previous quarter (&ldquo 1Q20&rdquo ) and 40% lower compared to a year ago (&ldquo 2Q19&rdquo ). 
OCBC Group Reported First Half 2020 Net Profit of S$1.43 billion
Second quarter earnings rose 5% from the first quarter to S$730 million
Singapore, 7 August 2020 &ndash Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation Limited (&ldquo OCBC Bank&rdquo ) reported its financial results for the first half of 2020 (&ldquo 1H20&rdquo ).
Group net profit for 1H20 was S$1.43 billion, 42% lower than a year ago, after prudently setting aside significantly higher allowances
against expected credit losses on a forward-looking basis in the deteriorating economic environment brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic.
Net profit for the second quarter (&ldquo 2Q20&rdquo ) was S$730 million, up 5% from the previous quarter (&ldquo 1Q20&rdquo ) and 40% lower compared to a year ago (&ldquo 2Q19&rdquo ).