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bryan2003
    11-Sep-2022 20:35  
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The CEO, Mr. Bani continues buy PT Samudera in August as well as September.
 
https://www.idx.co.id/StaticData/NewsAndAnnouncement/ANNOUNCEMENTSTOCK/From_EREP/202209/2314029e4c_59781dff9f.pdf
 
https://www.idx.co.id/StaticData/NewsAndAnnouncement/ANNOUNCEMENTSTOCK/From_EREP/202209/926e29898a_d7c77184b4.pdf
 
 
Steroid
    09-Sep-2022 21:46  
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Ocean freight rates for big containers have fallen but feeder freight rates for small containers operated by Samudera are doing well

Samudera      ( Date: 09-Sep-2022 15:26) Posted:

Almost 20% drop in freight rates this week

https://en.sse.net.cn/indices/seafinew2.jsp

Samudera      ( Date: 02-Sep-2022 15:17) Posted:

Another big drop this week. Rates going to fall towards before covid rates...

https://en.sse.net.cn/indices/seafinew2.js


 
 
Steroid
    09-Sep-2022 21:05  
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Why even worse. The report clearly states ocean freight rates for big containers have fallen but feeder freight rates for small containers operated by Samudera are doing well

yau123      ( Date: 09-Sep-2022 12:00) Posted:

After this report even worse! keep dropping like no support

Steroid      ( Date: 09-Sep-2022 11:14) Posted:



 

 
Samudera
    09-Sep-2022 15:26  
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Almost 20% drop in freight rates this week

https://en.sse.net.cn/indices/seafinew2.jsp

Samudera      ( Date: 02-Sep-2022 15:17) Posted:

Another big drop this week. Rates going to fall towards before covid rates...

https://en.sse.net.cn/indices/seafinew2.jsp

Samudera      ( Date: 26-Aug-2022 15:58) Posted:

Another big drop in rates this week. Peak shipping rates is over. Don't be caught holding the stock at peak. Remember shipping is cyclical stock. If you get caught, you have to wait till the next cycle to cash out.

https://en.sse.net.cn/indices/seafinew2.js


 
 
moneyspinner
    09-Sep-2022 13:59  
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cool

yau123      ( Date: 09-Sep-2022 12:00) Posted:

After this report even worse! keep dropping like no support

Steroid      ( Date: 09-Sep-2022 11:14) Posted:



 
 
yau123
    09-Sep-2022 12:00  
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After this report even worse! keep dropping like no support

Steroid      ( Date: 09-Sep-2022 11:14) Posted:

The link doesnt work try this link
https://nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/945-2022/14889-uni-asia-samudera-overpriced-fairly-priced-or-underpriced

focusy      ( Date: 09-Sep-2022 09:35) Posted:

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Steroid
    09-Sep-2022 11:14  
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The link doesnt work try this link
https://nextinsight.net/story-archive-mainmenu-60/945-2022/14889-uni-asia-samudera-overpriced-fairly-priced-or-underpriced

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DuplexCH
    09-Sep-2022 00:34  
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Shipping prices declaining over the coming years. Will it be year 23 or year 24? Who knows. For my personal view and small investor, I will let go S56 after FY22 and fat dividend. It's good enough for me. Up & downs on the path to the result, set your own target. I'm following S56 since I bought at $0.35. Sold & bought many times. Of course regret it not to keep but made good money out of it. From what I can see/hear/read people trying to make a sell call right now. Maybe they are right but I doubt so. Once S56 announce the FY22 result/dividend, cheerleaders & markets will be onboard. Just my humble opinion. Do not follow my opinion if you against or pro. Just sharing.. happy investing!
 
 
easywin
    08-Sep-2022 16:39  
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No choice cover partial 1.05
 
 
easywin
    08-Sep-2022 16:32  
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My group of friends waitng at 1.04 to cover their shorts, I think quite likely can get
 

 
yau123
    08-Sep-2022 16:13  
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What happen to samudera ?
 
 
GoldenPig
    08-Sep-2022 16:07  
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In addition,
1) ASEAN economies are growing and will keep intra-Asia shipping lanes busy.
2) Samudera is also into dry bulk shipping, tankers and logistics services.
3) Samudera is net cash and its cash pile is still growing. No debt translates into higher profits. Unlike the last bust cycle when shipping companies were struggling to pay off their capital intensive ships.
4) Cost of building new ships is now very high. Seems it will not come much or soon. Supply of newbuilds will be more disciplined.
5) The pandemic period has apparently taught shipping companies a few tricks. One is blank sailings to keep the freight rates up.

Steroid      ( Date: 08-Sep-2022 15:28) Posted:

From Straits Times article. Rates of big container ships used for international have softened. Samudera uses small container ships for feeder services. The rates are still buoyant. Analysts say the share trades at a discount to fair value

 
 
Steroid
    08-Sep-2022 15:28  
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From Straits Times article. Rates of big container ships used for international have softened. Samudera uses small container ships for feeder services. The rates are still buoyant. Analysts say the share trades at a discount to fair value
 
 
AttasBoss
    08-Sep-2022 11:14  
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rejected like previously, wait 1 dollar to buy before next result
 
 
moneyspinner
    08-Sep-2022 11:11  
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The charts are still bullish.   Guess follow the technicals for now.
 

 
superstartup
    08-Sep-2022 10:32  
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Believe the transacted rates for container shipping (facts, not opinion)
There are regular publications on such rates

 
 
 
moneyspinner
    08-Sep-2022 09:59  
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WHO TO BELIEVE?


STRAIT TALK 

Container freight rates tumble as good times end for shipping industry

 
TUE, SEP 06, 2022 - 5:55 PM

 

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Liner shipping has in general either yielded very thin profits or has been loss making from the early years of containerisation.   
PHOTO: NYT 


BY DAVID HUGHES

OVER the past couple of years, very high container shipping freight rates have prompted cries of anguish from the shipper community and even led to the US Congress passing a bill &ndash with rare cross party support &ndash aimed at preventing alleged profiteering. 

In vain did commentators, including the writer of this column, point out that liner shipping had in general either yielded very thin profits or was loss making from the early years of containerisation. This drove the consolidation of lines which has since taken place. The low profitability of liner shipping was in large part due to the insistence of competition authorities that liner shipping companies must lose their exemption from anti-cartel laws that allowed, within limits, price setting agreements. 
 


The result was that the liner shipping market became much more volatile and would have been highly cyclical &ndash as the tramp shipping dry cargo and tanker markets are. But until recently, persistent over ordering of new and ever larger tonnage prevented any real highs in the market and kept rates low.

That changed about 2 years ago when rates started to soar. The good times for the liners lasted surprisingly long but recently, there have been a steady stream of reports indicating a downward trend.

Two short papers from HSBC Global Research have attracted my attention in the past couple of weeks. The bank&rsquo s Parash Jain, head of Shipping & Ports & Asia Transport Research, noted that container rates in South-east Asia declined the steepest in the quarter to date, &ldquo likely due to cascading of capacity from long haul routes&rdquo
 


In the most recent paper,  When the tide goes out..., Jain pointed out that the Shanghai Containerised Freight Index (SCFI) recorded another steeper decline of 9.7 per cent week-on-week in the week of Sep 2, and is now down 32 per cent quarter-to-date or 37 per cent lower year-on-year. The China Containerised Freight Index (CCFI) showed a milder decline of 2.5 per cent week-on-week, thanks to the cushion from higher contract rates, still staying at 4 per cent higher year-on-year in the third quarter to-date.

The first paper,  Back to Earth, had warned that as vessel utilisation declines from between 95 and 100 per cent, the current skyrocketed spot freight rates could lose support quickly and revert to a more normalised level. The second paper predicted: &ldquo We maintain that spot rates could fall another 58 per cent in 2023, and 37 per cent in 2024 on average before reaching the bottom.&rdquo

It observed: &ldquo Quantifying the extent of the looming down-cycle: Freight rates have peaked and a down-cycle in 2023-24, driven by overcapacity, seems inevitable. The debate is over whether the sector has learnt any lesson or will return to losses. There are signs that spot rates could fall to pre-pandemic levels swiftly on the widening demand-supply gap but we maintain that contract rates should settle above their pre-pandemic levels and that capacity discipline will keep spot rates from lingering at trough levels. Overall, we expect the sector to remain profitable versus losses pre-pandemic.&rdquo

That prediction about staying profitable says a lot about liner shipping. The paper does not say &ldquo highly profitable&rdquo , it just says &ldquo profitable&rdquo and offers that as being better than the generally loss-making situation pre-pandemic. That begs the question why should any one want to invest in a very capital-intensive industry when the rewards are at best meagre.

However another press release that crossed my desk recently had a more optimistic message, at least for a segment of the container shipping business. While spot rates for dry standard FEUs (40 foot equivalent units) are declining on the world&rsquo s key global trading corridors, the rates for equivalent reefers are bucking the trend on the North Europe to Far East route, noted shipping analyst Xeneta. It crowd sources real-time ocean freight rate data from major shippers. It found that the average 40ft HC reefer spot rate stood at US$5,230 for the trade on Aug 23, compared to dry standard FEUs at US$980. At this point 2 years ago, September 2020, the reefer spot rate was US$4,000. Rates for standard dry containers have been slipping away since June 2021, when they were close to US$2,000.

&ldquo This is interesting for a number of reasons,&rdquo commented Peter Sand, Xeneta&rsquo s chief analyst. &ldquo One is the steady increase, albeit with a dip in August, in the reefer spot rates but also the fact that the spot rates are still above the long-term contracted agreements is noteworthy. That said, the long-term rates have also been increasing steadily (currently US$4,850) and the spread between the 2 is diminishing. In fact, that divide is now at its narrowest since November 2019, so we&rsquo ll be looking out to see if &ndash as on some other trades &ndash the spot rates fall below the contracted ones. When we consider the recent development curve, that wouldn&rsquo t be too surprising as long-term rates have now climbed by an impressive 14.5 per cent since the start of the year.&rdquo

However, while the reefer sector may continue to do very well for some time, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the party may be almost over for the container shipping industry. Before too long, the lines are likely to be back to small returns on massive capital investment once again &ndash if they are lucky.
 
 
DuplexCH
    08-Sep-2022 08:36  
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I remember last time this journalist wrote an article in BT about S56, price jumped. With recent CEO share purchases, it's a matter of time. The vessel is heading towards new height port.

spursfan      ( Date: 08-Sep-2022 08:19) Posted:

Company Watch: S' pore-listed Samudera riding wave of container shipping boom

Mr Bani Mulia, group chief executive of Singapore-listed Samudera Shipping Line.  PHOTO: SAMUDERA INDONESIA
 


SINGAPORE - The supply-demand imbalances that have boosted global container shipping charter rates and lifted the profits and stock prices of operators to record highs is not likely to disappear anytime soon. In fact, the market could get hotter when China lifts its Covid-19 lockdowns.

So says Mr Bani Mulia, the group CEO of Singapore-listed Samudera Shipping Line........

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/company-watch-spore-listed-samudera-rising-waves-of-container-shipping-boom
 

 
 
spursfan
    08-Sep-2022 08:19  
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Company Watch: S' pore-listed Samudera riding wave of container shipping boom

Mr Bani Mulia, group chief executive of Singapore-listed Samudera Shipping Line.  PHOTO: SAMUDERA INDONESIA
 


SINGAPORE - The supply-demand imbalances that have boosted global container shipping charter rates and lifted the profits and stock prices of operators to record highs is not likely to disappear anytime soon. In fact, the market could get hotter when China lifts its Covid-19 lockdowns.

So says Mr Bani Mulia, the group CEO of Singapore-listed Samudera Shipping Line........

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/company-watch-spore-listed-samudera-rising-waves-of-container-shipping-boom
 
 
 
AttasBoss
    07-Sep-2022 22:45  
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