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EB,     your comments abt analysts... we all know most so-called analysts cannot be trusted. I enjoy reading your updates, insights and candid remarks. You don' t beat around the bush.

HPH trust is owned by Li kar shing. He' s getting older, and yet mentally very sharp. I admire his stamina and business acumen, we can learn a lot from these successful investors, not just how they grow rich, but their positive outlook, never say die spirit. 

 

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luladi      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 10:25) Posted: Not sure never check. Bought in sgd .545 then stupid platform show in usd. Lol. Cheers!

 

Not sure never check. Bought in sgd .545 then stupid platform show in usd. Lol. Cheers!

 

How come I never see 37.5? I wait till flower gone still not get 38, at the end get 38.5.

Tell something is truth ok.

luladi      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 10:17) Posted: Vested at 0.375. Thought correction to 0.5 will take 3 mths at least. Might come sooner. If can hold till next dividends announcement, might hit 0.55 and above. Cross fingers LJC hang on strong. LOL

 

I expect it to hit 53-56. Not a difficult target. Again net profit don't change much since ipo. The change is price and Ocbc brokers target price, bullish bearish this and that, in fact since ipo nothing change on book.

No see them said bad about hph trust at 81 to 42, say rubbish at 42 and bring price to 38.

Anyway thanks them for me to load at bottom price.

investor7      ( Date: 08-Mar-2017 10:14) Posted: I am still in HPHT since 53 ct, and averaged down at 41 ct, collected dividends while hoping for a privatisation or buyout of the ports, which are valued much higher than the mkt price. Luckily the dividends are quite good. I would not have held on if not for these reasons.

 

Vested at 0.375. Thought correction to 0.5 will take 3 mths at least. Might come sooner. If can hold till next dividends announcement, might hit 0.55 and above. Cross fingers LJC hang on strong. LOL

 

I am still in HPHT since 53 ct, and averaged down at 41 ct, collected dividends while hoping for a privatisation or buyout of the ports, which are valued much higher than the mkt price. Luckily the dividends are quite good. I would not have held on if not for these reasons.    

 

Get ready to see 40 and 42.💪 💪 💪

earlybird14      ( Date: 06-Mar-2017 11:15) Posted: Chart at 9am at Monday open( bring in upfront better picture.) based on price at 38.5-39(if still at this price) Support 38.5-39(4hr midbollinger), 38-38.5(historical low with 11-12 day support) Resistance 40( day mid bollinger) and 42(week mid bollinger and potential day upper bollinger if the bounce is fast enough) 56(month mid bollinger) Trend line: 15mins and 30mins, 1hr uptrend, 2hr, 4hr sideline line. Next action: safeguard the 38.5-39 support level against the day downtrend from 40 and swing with the trend line up in next week.

 

Trade on this stock you should also beware of the currency rate too.

Any weaker on rate may still resulting your full P/L.

 

 

Tomorrow sell queue at 39 gone 10k? Bbs scaring and Accummulation effect.

 

Being a STI component share will surely command more premium than other trust that are not. The question is how much? For example, you can easily compare Ascendas REIT (STI) with Mapletree, Cambridge, Sabana, Viva.... mainly Industrial Reit with majority focusing in SG... Ascendas' s yield is the lowest.

I don' t think you can expect the yield to be similar when HPH can attract more grade 1 to invest in. If the price drop further.... it will rebound faster.

ecekca      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 21:08) Posted: HPH price drop better, more attractive at this price, looks x for a biz trust earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 21:06) Posted: Hph trust eps last 4 year was hkd 20 cents. So 20 cents hkd is equal to about 6.7% so higher than Ascendas. Further more, Ascendas distribute 15cents which is more than 13plus cents eps, so their payout ratio is 110% but hph trust is 100%. So hph trust is healthier.

 

What's its book value?

 

HPH price drop better, more attractive

at this price, looks x for a biz trust

earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 21:06) Posted: Hph trust eps last 4 year was hkd 20 cents. So 20 cents hkd is equal to about 6.7% so higher than Ascendas. Further more, Ascendas distribute 15cents which is more than 13plus cents eps, so their payout ratio is 110% but hph trust is 100%. So hph trust is healthier. nngeeh      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 20:47) Posted: Similar to APTT, when it is not sustainable.... even when it is paying more than 10% div... the market will not accept that price which will cause it to go down until it reaches a point where it is seems sustainable. As HPH is part of STI index counter, most fund is allowed to invest. In term of yield... I think it would be fairer to compare with index share. Beside HPH, the highest yield and yet sustainable should be Ascendas REIT at 6.1%. I think the current price of HPH is definitely not overvalued.

 

Hph trust eps last 4 year was hkd 20 cents. So 20 cents hkd is equal to about 6.7% so higher than Ascendas. Further more, Ascendas distribute 15cents which is more than 13plus cents eps, so their payout ratio is 110% but hph trust is 100%.

So hph trust is healthier.

nngeeh      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 20:47) Posted: Similar to APTT, when it is not sustainable.... even when it is paying more than 10% div... the market will not accept that price which will cause it to go down until it reaches a point where it is seems sustainable. As HPH is part of STI index counter, most fund is allowed to invest. In term of yield... I think it would be fairer to compare with index share. Beside HPH, the highest yield and yet sustainable should be Ascendas REIT at 6.1%. I think the current price of HPH is definitely not overvalued. laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 18:05) Posted: If not wrong, HPH usually trade at yield above 9%. So with dividend guide of only 20-23 hk ￠ , its best estimate would be just usd 0.33. Present price of usd 0.385 alr very good liao

 

Similar to APTT, when it is not sustainable.... even when it is paying more than 10% div... the market will not accept that price which will cause it to go down until it reaches a point where it is seems sustainable.

As HPH is part of STI index counter, most fund is allowed to invest. In term of yield... I think it would be fairer to compare with index share. Beside HPH, the highest yield and yet sustainable should be Ascendas REIT at 6.1%. I think the current price of HPH is definitely not overvalued.

laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 18:05) Posted: If not wrong, HPH usually trade at yield above 9%. So with dividend guide of only 20-23 hk ￠ , its best estimate would be just usd 0.33. Present price of usd 0.385 alr very good liao

 

Good pointer, thks

earlybird14      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 19:21) Posted: Even we know so, we still has to be extra be careful not to be caught at higher level when they try to bring down the price. In stock market is always dump down for Accummulation, pump up for distribution. Before any rumours or news out, the dunk down Accummulation will continue till they Accummulate enough. So not to be catch and just watch up the price be disciplined to average down or buy at support, take some profit at bounce which sufficient for cut loss when support break, then load at next low at another support level. Continue to play this game till the support level are slowly move up. Or just wait and see till a firm support level are moving down and forget about rock bottom level. lausk22      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 18:30) Posted: This is a common trick  used by  major shareholders  to suppress share prices for their own benefits at minor shareholders' expense. and when prices are low enough, they will start buy back and buy out exercises.

 

Even we know so, we still has to be extra be careful not to be caught at higher level when they try to bring down the price.

In stock market is always dump down for Accummulation, pump up for distribution. Before any rumours or news out, the dunk down Accummulation will continue till they Accummulate enough.

So not to be catch and just watch up the price be disciplined to average down or buy at support, take some profit at bounce which sufficient for cut loss when support break, then load at next low at another support level. Continue to play this game till the support level are slowly move up.

Or just wait and see till a firm support level are moving down and forget about rock bottom level.

lausk22      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 18:30) Posted: This is a common trick  used by  major shareholders  to suppress share prices for their own benefits at minor shareholders' expense. and when prices are low enough, they will start buy back and buy out exercises. laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 18:05) Posted: If not wrong, HPH usually trade at yield above 9%. So with dividend guide of only 20-23 hk ￠ , its best estimate would be just usd 0.33. Present price of usd 0.385 alr very good liao

 

This is a common trick  used by  major shareholders  to suppress share prices for their own benefits at minor shareholders' expense. and when prices are low enough, they will start buy back and buy out exercises.

laksaman57      ( Date: 07-Mar-2017 18:05) Posted: If not wrong, HPH usually trade at yield above 9%. So with dividend guide of only 20-23 hk ￠ , its best estimate would be just usd 0.33. Present price of usd 0.385 alr very good liao

 

If not wrong, HPH usually trade at yield above 9%. So with dividend guide of only 20-23 hk ￠ , its best estimate would be just usd 0.33. Present price of usd 0.385 alr very good liao

 

closed at 38.5....looks tired after trying to break 39.5 a few times and failing