I was thinking of setting up a chat group,using " What app"   for liked-minded people when we meet up at the coming AMAL AGM.
Primarily for information sharing and discussion among the group rather than over SJ.Too much ridiculous,ill-advised and ilogical comments were posted here  IMO
Any comment from liked-minded members?
 
Primarily for information sharing and discussion among the group rather than over SJ.Too much ridiculous,ill-advised and ilogical comments were posted here  IMO
Any comment from liked-minded members?
 
Atom99 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 21:36) Posted:
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Even though AMAL is getting closer,about approximately six months,  to  Lithium production,this ' baby'   is still not mentioned by this so called " Leading Lithium market expert" !Why?
Atom99 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 20:31) Posted:
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The only substance is abuse of SJ forum.....thinks that he is very smart and all others are fools dancing based on his farce.....
Alvin2042 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 21:22) Posted:
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Your comments are dependent on whether u hold long or short positions. U will write how good the company is when u long, and condemn the company when u short. Really no substance.
andychew.eh ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 20:54) Posted:
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  No Lah! Tomorrow TH liau. And after that  SP drop to  $0.0000000.... into infinity.IMO
andychew.eh ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 20:54) Posted:
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There you go again.
You obviously don't know what you are talking about... and just go on sprouting nonsense. If there's an ignore button, I would press immediately.
andychew.eh ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 20:54) Posted:
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Lol
andychew.eh ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 20:54) Posted:
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Next month can see below 20 cts. You dont know how HK funds operate.
AMAL will be like another Midas.
And AMAL sell 50% BH interest to Tawana for 7.5 mil only ? Something "fishy". So AMAL valued BH project at only $15 mil only ?
AMAL will be like another Midas.
And AMAL sell 50% BH interest to Tawana for 7.5 mil only ? Something "fishy". So AMAL valued BH project at only $15 mil only ?
Really depends on your timeframe.
I believe the below estimate is looking at 2019 and beyond. I would agree that it is hard to achieve that in 6-9 months.
SgYuan ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 19:40) Posted:
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" That said the best days for lithium are in the future no matter what other &ldquo flavors of the day&rdquo emerge."
Lithium 2018 - An Early Look
·               How serious are ALB&rsquo s often masked issues in the Atacama? Spoiler alert: weather isn&rsquo t the problem. The LaNegra II production volume in 2018 is critical for Cool Hand Luke. 
·               CORFO & SQM &ndash resolution of open issues hopefully clearing the way for SQM to expand the Atacama beyond their current plan with a reasonable royalty.
·               How fast can financed juniors (PLS/AJM) get into production?
·               Development of new projects in Argentina beyond Cauchari.
·               EV sales growth trend.
·               Does FMC do a spin-off and get their lithium assets into more competent hands?
First a flashback to my January 17th post which mentioned what I thought were key themes for the lithium industry in 2017:
1) the need for consolidation and alliances
2) the rise of Argentina as the next great lithium province joining Chile and Australia.
So, what happened?
We saw three important projects (one in Argentina and two in Australia) funded and progressing. Probably more importantly we saw SQM make it clear the lithium &ldquo by-product&rdquo mentality is gone and they are &ldquo all in&rdquo on being the world&rsquo s foremost lithium company by expanding in the Atacama, moving forward at Cauchari and investing in hard rock in Australia via a deal with KDR.
On the other side of the world we saw Ganfeng benefit from their ownership in Mt Marion and make additional investments in Argentina (Cauchari) and Australia (Pilbara). Ganfeng is no longer dependent on others for raw material and has a real shot at becoming #1 or #2 in total LCE production.
DSO proved how wrong poorly informed analysts can be. The predicted price crash never happened and prices moved up to prior highs.
SQM and Ganfeng are clearly in position to eclipse the uneasy &ldquo allies&rdquo , ALB and Tianqi. in both production and global influence in the coming half decade. No I don&rsquo t think Luke and company or Tianqi are going to rollover but I do believe SQM, Ganfeng and their affiliated companies have better operations and projection execution abilities that will be key to bringing the Lithium Age into full bloom.
Ok &ndash so maybe my themes for 2017 were kind of obvious rather than great insight. Let&rsquo s a take a look at 2018.
What happens at Galaxy in 2018 is significant. The Perth based company is in the process of moving ahead of FMC in LCE production from Mt Cattlin production alone but in my opinion their real future lies in developing the Sal de Vida brine projection. Beyond that they also have another hard rock resource at James Bay in Quebec. Do they partner or go it alone? One next year&rsquo s more interesting questions.
FMC is currently the clear leader in the second tier of lithium companies. Although they have slipped to number 6 in LCE production, Hombre Muerto is a significant asset producing high quality carbonate and chloride. Unfortunately, the current management only puts out &ldquo teasers&rdquo about expanding the resource in Argentina rather than actually moving forward. Their ill-conceived hydroxide strategy (aka &ldquo The House of Card&rdquo ) to expand to 30K MT without access to feedstock for the majority of the new capacity is increasingly viewed by the battery world as a significant misstep by the former global hydroxide leader. Hopefully their &ldquo on again-off again&rdquo spin-off talk results in new leadership that moves this fading lithium business forward.
Nemaska still requires massive funding to move forward with a commercial size plant. I like the idea of new technology in hydroxide but their current struggle to bring just a 500 MT plant online with on spec crystallized product rather than just a hydroxide solution they can ship to neighbor Johnson Matthey is question that needs be answered hopefully in early 2018. New technology always takes time &ndash taking a wait and see attitude on Nemaska. Don' t look for production > 10K MT in this decade.
The North American Lithium saga drags on. A tainted Chinese SOC owner has been a barrier to several US based investors wanting to bring proper corporate governance to the mess north of the border. Despite China battery giant CATL curiously throwing a lifeline to entrenched management, any former optimism I had for NAL is gone. But then again, you never know.
It is beyond the scope of this post to mention every junior so please don&rsquo t send me a private message asking why I didn&rsquo t mention Bolivia, Portugal, etc, etc. I will be clear on one point &ndash the Congo is not going to become the new Saudi Arabia of Lithium
In 2017, we saw people finally believe that rapid lithium demand growth is real and the future debate will be on things like speed of EV penetration (spoiler alert &ndash I am still on the low end at < 5% but even with that lithium demand in 2025 is 3X demand in 2016.
I can&rsquo t write about 2018 without giving Elon his due. Clearly Tesla&rsquo s aspirational production goal of 500K cars in 2018 isn&rsquo t going to happen when they are currently making the model 3 literally by hand. Likely Tesla will be forgiven for the continued misses and remain an important story but the recent announcements by German automakers regarding massive investments in electric models and batteries will be more significant to the lithium world going forward. Who knows if VW will really invest $84 billion as they recently stated but it is clear electrification is going mainstream. Based on my recent expert calls, it seems automakers finally realize they may have to finally make investments in lithium resources. Unfortunately, it takes huge bureaucracies a long time to make decisions but it seems the review process has started in earnest.
Next year is going to be an extremely interesting one in the lithium world with ramp-ups to follow including the ongoing sagas of LaNegra II and ORE as well as the projects in Oz and the matching capacity in China. Hopefully SQM will put their CORFO issues behind them and be able to focus on the projects they have in three countries.
My expectation is Galaxy will have either financed or done a partnership deal to move Sal de Vida forward. I am more doubtful about the goings on in Quebec. On the demand side, although I am increasingly bullish on the electric transportation story my numbers still tend to be conservative.
Many pundits said 2016 was the year of lithium and 2017 would be the year of cobalt. I tend to ignore such musings given my total focus is lithium related matters. That said the best days for lithium are in the future no matter what other &ldquo flavors of the day&rdquo emerge.
Lithium 2018 - An Early Look
- Published on Published on9/10/2017
 
Joe Lowry
Following Following Joe Lowry
One of the World' s Leading Lithium Market Experts
I know Q4 just started so why am I writing about 2018 already? The bottom line is I think 2018 will dwarf prior years in terms of meaningful events happening in the lithium cosmos. Many significant open issues &ndash among them:·               How serious are ALB&rsquo s often masked issues in the Atacama? Spoiler alert: weather isn&rsquo t the problem. The LaNegra II production volume in 2018 is critical for Cool Hand Luke. 
·               CORFO & SQM &ndash resolution of open issues hopefully clearing the way for SQM to expand the Atacama beyond their current plan with a reasonable royalty.
·               How fast can financed juniors (PLS/AJM) get into production?
·               Development of new projects in Argentina beyond Cauchari.
·               EV sales growth trend.
·               Does FMC do a spin-off and get their lithium assets into more competent hands?
First a flashback to my January 17th post which mentioned what I thought were key themes for the lithium industry in 2017:
1) the need for consolidation and alliances
2) the rise of Argentina as the next great lithium province joining Chile and Australia.
So, what happened?
We saw three important projects (one in Argentina and two in Australia) funded and progressing. Probably more importantly we saw SQM make it clear the lithium &ldquo by-product&rdquo mentality is gone and they are &ldquo all in&rdquo on being the world&rsquo s foremost lithium company by expanding in the Atacama, moving forward at Cauchari and investing in hard rock in Australia via a deal with KDR.
On the other side of the world we saw Ganfeng benefit from their ownership in Mt Marion and make additional investments in Argentina (Cauchari) and Australia (Pilbara). Ganfeng is no longer dependent on others for raw material and has a real shot at becoming #1 or #2 in total LCE production.
DSO proved how wrong poorly informed analysts can be. The predicted price crash never happened and prices moved up to prior highs.
SQM and Ganfeng are clearly in position to eclipse the uneasy &ldquo allies&rdquo , ALB and Tianqi. in both production and global influence in the coming half decade. No I don&rsquo t think Luke and company or Tianqi are going to rollover but I do believe SQM, Ganfeng and their affiliated companies have better operations and projection execution abilities that will be key to bringing the Lithium Age into full bloom.
Ok &ndash so maybe my themes for 2017 were kind of obvious rather than great insight. Let&rsquo s a take a look at 2018.
What happens at Galaxy in 2018 is significant. The Perth based company is in the process of moving ahead of FMC in LCE production from Mt Cattlin production alone but in my opinion their real future lies in developing the Sal de Vida brine projection. Beyond that they also have another hard rock resource at James Bay in Quebec. Do they partner or go it alone? One next year&rsquo s more interesting questions.
FMC is currently the clear leader in the second tier of lithium companies. Although they have slipped to number 6 in LCE production, Hombre Muerto is a significant asset producing high quality carbonate and chloride. Unfortunately, the current management only puts out &ldquo teasers&rdquo about expanding the resource in Argentina rather than actually moving forward. Their ill-conceived hydroxide strategy (aka &ldquo The House of Card&rdquo ) to expand to 30K MT without access to feedstock for the majority of the new capacity is increasingly viewed by the battery world as a significant misstep by the former global hydroxide leader. Hopefully their &ldquo on again-off again&rdquo spin-off talk results in new leadership that moves this fading lithium business forward.
Nemaska still requires massive funding to move forward with a commercial size plant. I like the idea of new technology in hydroxide but their current struggle to bring just a 500 MT plant online with on spec crystallized product rather than just a hydroxide solution they can ship to neighbor Johnson Matthey is question that needs be answered hopefully in early 2018. New technology always takes time &ndash taking a wait and see attitude on Nemaska. Don' t look for production > 10K MT in this decade.
The North American Lithium saga drags on. A tainted Chinese SOC owner has been a barrier to several US based investors wanting to bring proper corporate governance to the mess north of the border. Despite China battery giant CATL curiously throwing a lifeline to entrenched management, any former optimism I had for NAL is gone. But then again, you never know.
It is beyond the scope of this post to mention every junior so please don&rsquo t send me a private message asking why I didn&rsquo t mention Bolivia, Portugal, etc, etc. I will be clear on one point &ndash the Congo is not going to become the new Saudi Arabia of Lithium
In 2017, we saw people finally believe that rapid lithium demand growth is real and the future debate will be on things like speed of EV penetration (spoiler alert &ndash I am still on the low end at < 5% but even with that lithium demand in 2025 is 3X demand in 2016.
I can&rsquo t write about 2018 without giving Elon his due. Clearly Tesla&rsquo s aspirational production goal of 500K cars in 2018 isn&rsquo t going to happen when they are currently making the model 3 literally by hand. Likely Tesla will be forgiven for the continued misses and remain an important story but the recent announcements by German automakers regarding massive investments in electric models and batteries will be more significant to the lithium world going forward. Who knows if VW will really invest $84 billion as they recently stated but it is clear electrification is going mainstream. Based on my recent expert calls, it seems automakers finally realize they may have to finally make investments in lithium resources. Unfortunately, it takes huge bureaucracies a long time to make decisions but it seems the review process has started in earnest.
Next year is going to be an extremely interesting one in the lithium world with ramp-ups to follow including the ongoing sagas of LaNegra II and ORE as well as the projects in Oz and the matching capacity in China. Hopefully SQM will put their CORFO issues behind them and be able to focus on the projects they have in three countries.
My expectation is Galaxy will have either financed or done a partnership deal to move Sal de Vida forward. I am more doubtful about the goings on in Quebec. On the demand side, although I am increasingly bullish on the electric transportation story my numbers still tend to be conservative.
Many pundits said 2016 was the year of lithium and 2017 would be the year of cobalt. I tend to ignore such musings given my total focus is lithium related matters. That said the best days for lithium are in the future no matter what other &ldquo flavors of the day&rdquo emerge.
Atom99 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 20:10) Posted:
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I believe long term vested investors would make significant gains when AMAL goes into production because Lithium price is not going to   go down anytime soon but it is going to stay high or higher.(if you hv keep abreast of what is going on in the EVs revolution and demands of Lithium concentrate.Every automobile 🚗 companies and Lithium battery mfgs are desperately securing Lithium supply.
It really augers well fo AMAL. I believe this type of opportunity don&rsquo t always knock on our door steps.
we should all be laughing 😆 to the bank in the not too distant future.Of course,we hv to keep a constant look out on this baby 👶 and closely monitor it till Bald Hill is mined until bald.IMO
DYOR and DyODD.
It really augers well fo AMAL. I believe this type of opportunity don&rsquo t always knock on our door steps.
we should all be laughing 😆 to the bank in the not too distant future.Of course,we hv to keep a constant look out on this baby 👶 and closely monitor it till Bald Hill is mined until bald.IMO
DYOR and DyODD.
timothylim890 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 19:22) Posted:
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All bros here.
The tgt ur set is very high.
Hopefully it come true.
But stock are hard to predict.
So pls be cautious.
The tgt ur set is very high.
Hopefully it come true.
But stock are hard to predict.
So pls be cautious.
timothylim890 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 19:22) Posted:
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My earlier valuation based on 4x P/E based on about 40m EBITDA to AMA was about 60c. But share price is affected by only two things...fundamentals and investor sentiment right? If people continue to think AMA is a good investment then who knows where it'll go? My personal TP using similar players like Galaxy Resources etc. is $1.50-$2.
Atom99 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 18:55) Posted:
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Bro
Glad to hear your investment has been recouped and made gains.
Should be able to move further up... awaiting the Resource and Reserve upgrade. If can add another 10 million tonnnes of  resource and LOM over 10 years.
AMAL SP... is anybody guess?
Caution: who knows suddenly AMAL may sprank another TH.Shortists Beware!!!
IMO.DYOR and DYODD.
 
Glad to hear your investment has been recouped and made gains.
Should be able to move further up... awaiting the Resource and Reserve upgrade. If can add another 10 million tonnnes of  resource and LOM over 10 years.
AMAL SP... is anybody guess?
Caution: who knows suddenly AMAL may sprank another TH.Shortists Beware!!!
IMO.DYOR and DYODD.
 
Steady28 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 18:19) Posted:
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Yes. 61.8%,100%(typical),123.6%, some time more depend on strength.
whymee ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 18:21) Posted:
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In general , Does Wave 5 ever exceed wave 1? Meaning   > than 100 % ? 
SgYuan ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 17:54) Posted:
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just received the hard copy of the annual report via mail.
thankful that it rebounded, back to gains. hopefully those who are vested, had made some, or recoup some back. =))
 
thankful that it rebounded, back to gains. hopefully those who are vested, had made some, or recoup some back. =))
 
He' s nothing more than a rooster taking credit for the sunrise.
Now he will MIA and claim to have gone overseas.
Now he will MIA and claim to have gone overseas.
RedEye1811 ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 17:25) Posted:
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That is ew5 tgt. 340(100% of wave 1 delta)
EW main 210-270-250-305-280-ew5:?
The ew3 is not as power, maybe due to the halt.
Now on ew5 tgt 340.
EW main 210-270-250-305-280-ew5:?
The ew3 is not as power, maybe due to the halt.
Now on ew5 tgt 340.
whymee ( Date: 09-Oct-2017 17:40) Posted:
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