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Many hoping markets will crash down very low... but most of them are not interested to buy cos we will never know wheres the bottom until it has bounce up alot. Theres no free lunch in this world. Once you see people all over telling you where oil will go or markets going to crash. You better get ready to do the opposite.
sriramanv ( Date: 17-Feb-2016 17:33) Posted:
Worst is what you copy and paste the same in multiple threads...
alan5793 ( Date: 11-Feb-2016 09:31) Posted:
WORST YET TO COME .
Bass Says China Bank Losses May Top 400% of Subprime Crisis
February 11, 2016 &mdash 12:15 AM HKT Updated on February 11, 2016 &mdash 7:21 AM HKT
 
- Manager says 10% asset loss would cut equity by $3.5 trillion
- China would have to print $10 trillion to recapitalize banks
Kyle Bass, the hedge fund manager who successfully bet against mortgages during the subprime crisis, said China&rsquo s banking system may see losses of more than four times those suffered by U.S. banks during the last crisis.
Should the Chinese banking system lose 10 percent of its assets because of nonperforming loans, the nation&rsquo s banks will see about $3.5 trillion in equity vanish, Bass, the founder of Dallas-based Hayman Capital Management, wrote in a letter to investors obtained by Bloomberg. The world&rsquo s second-biggest economy may end up having to print more than $10 trillion of yuan to recapitalize banks, pressuring the currency to devalue in excess of 30 percent against the dollar, according to Bass.
 
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Worst is what you copy and paste the same in multiple threads...
alan5793 ( Date: 11-Feb-2016 09:31) Posted:
WORST YET TO COME .
Bass Says China Bank Losses May Top 400% of Subprime Crisis
February 11, 2016 &mdash 12:15 AM HKT Updated on February 11, 2016 &mdash 7:21 AM HKT
 
- Manager says 10% asset loss would cut equity by $3.5 trillion
- China would have to print $10 trillion to recapitalize banks
Kyle Bass, the hedge fund manager who successfully bet against mortgages during the subprime crisis, said China&rsquo s banking system may see losses of more than four times those suffered by U.S. banks during the last crisis.
Should the Chinese banking system lose 10 percent of its assets because of nonperforming loans, the nation&rsquo s banks will see about $3.5 trillion in equity vanish, Bass, the founder of Dallas-based Hayman Capital Management, wrote in a letter to investors obtained by Bloomberg. The world&rsquo s second-biggest economy may end up having to print more than $10 trillion of yuan to recapitalize banks, pressuring the currency to devalue in excess of 30 percent against the dollar, according to Bass.
 
alan5793 ( Date: 07-Feb-2016 16:27) Posted:
O & G co. All in deep trouble soon..
 
Oil Plunge Sparks Bankruptcy Concerns
Crude&rsquo s plunge to near $30 a barrel fans worries that it could sink a third of U.S. oil producers
 
By  BRADLEY OLSON  and  ERIN  AILWORTH
 
Crude-oil prices plunged more than 5% on Monday to trade near $30 a barrel, making the specter of bankruptcy ever more likely for a significant chunk of the U.S. oil industry.
Three major investment banks&mdash   Morgan Stanley,  Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and  Citigroup  Inc.&mdash now expect the price of oil to crash through the $30 threshold and into $20 territory in short order as a result of China&rsquo s slowdown, the U.S. dollar&rsquo s appreciation and the fact that drillers from Houston to Riyadh won&rsquo t quit pumping despite the oil glut.
As many as a third of American oil-and-gas producers could tip toward bankruptcy and restructuring by mid-2017, according to Wolfe Research. Survival, for some, would be possible if oil rebounded to at least $50, according to analysts.  The benchmark price of U.S. crude settled at $31.41 a barrel, setting a 12-year low.
More than 30 small companies that collectively owe in excess of $13 billion have already filed for bankruptcy protection so far during this downturn, according to law firm Haynes & Boone.
Morgan Stanley issued a report this week describing an environment &ldquo worse than 1986&rdquo for energy prices and producers, referring to the last big oil bust that lasted for years. The current downturn is now deeper and longer than each of the five oil price crashes since 1970, said Martijn Rats, an analyst at the bank.
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In the fourth quarter of 2015, the Group posted a net profit of S$60.8 million and a turnover of S$2.4 billion compared to S$240.6 million and S$2.7 billion in 4Q2014 respectively. Final dividend of 6.0 cents per share proposed, bringing total dividend to 11.0 cents
Results even without Sembmarine' s losses are bad. See how the price action goes tomorrow.
WORST YET TO COME .
Bass Says China Bank Losses May Top 400% of Subprime Crisis
February 11, 2016 &mdash 12:15 AM HKT Updated on February 11, 2016 &mdash 7:21 AM HKT
 
- Manager says 10% asset loss would cut equity by $3.5 trillion
- China would have to print $10 trillion to recapitalize banks
Kyle Bass, the hedge fund manager who successfully bet against mortgages during the subprime crisis, said China&rsquo s banking system may see losses of more than four times those suffered by U.S. banks during the last crisis.
Should the Chinese banking system lose 10 percent of its assets because of nonperforming loans, the nation&rsquo s banks will see about $3.5 trillion in equity vanish, Bass, the founder of Dallas-based Hayman Capital Management, wrote in a letter to investors obtained by Bloomberg. The world&rsquo s second-biggest economy may end up having to print more than $10 trillion of yuan to recapitalize banks, pressuring the currency to devalue in excess of 30 percent against the dollar, according to Bass.
 
alan5793 ( Date: 07-Feb-2016 16:27) Posted:
O & G co. All in deep trouble soon..
 
Oil Plunge Sparks Bankruptcy Concerns
Crude&rsquo s plunge to near $30 a barrel fans worries that it could sink a third of U.S. oil producers
 
By  BRADLEY OLSON  and  ERIN  AILWORTH
 
Crude-oil prices plunged more than 5% on Monday to trade near $30 a barrel, making the specter of bankruptcy ever more likely for a significant chunk of the U.S. oil industry.
Three major investment banks&mdash   Morgan Stanley,  Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and  Citigroup  Inc.&mdash now expect the price of oil to crash through the $30 threshold and into $20 territory in short order as a result of China&rsquo s slowdown, the U.S. dollar&rsquo s appreciation and the fact that drillers from Houston to Riyadh won&rsquo t quit pumping despite the oil glut.
As many as a third of American oil-and-gas producers could tip toward bankruptcy and restructuring by mid-2017, according to Wolfe Research. Survival, for some, would be possible if oil rebounded to at least $50, according to analysts.  The benchmark price of U.S. crude settled at $31.41 a barrel, setting a 12-year low.
More than 30 small companies that collectively owe in excess of $13 billion have already filed for bankruptcy protection so far during this downturn, according to law firm Haynes & Boone.
Morgan Stanley issued a report this week describing an environment &ldquo worse than 1986&rdquo for energy prices and producers, referring to the last big oil bust that lasted for years. The current downturn is now deeper and longer than each of the five oil price crashes since 1970, said Martijn Rats, an analyst at the bank.
kirana ( Date: 06-Feb-2016 20:56) Posted:
Such is an asset to the nation and cannot be touched.
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O & G co. All in deep trouble soon..
 
Oil Plunge Sparks Bankruptcy Concerns
Crude&rsquo s plunge to near $30 a barrel fans worries that it could sink a third of U.S. oil producers
 
By  BRADLEY OLSON  and  ERIN  AILWORTH
 
Crude-oil prices plunged more than 5% on Monday to trade near $30 a barrel, making the specter of bankruptcy ever more likely for a significant chunk of the U.S. oil industry.
Three major investment banks&mdash  
Morgan Stanley,  Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and 
Citigroup  Inc.&mdash now expect the price of oil to crash through the $30 threshold and into $20 territory in short order as a result of China&rsquo s slowdown, the U.S. dollar&rsquo s appreciation and the fact that drillers from Houston to Riyadh won&rsquo t quit pumping despite the oil glut.
As many as a third of American oil-and-gas producers could tip toward bankruptcy and restructuring by mid-2017, according to Wolfe Research. Survival, for some, would be possible if oil rebounded to at least $50, according to analysts. 
The benchmark price of U.S. crude settled at $31.41 a barrel, setting a 12-year low.
More than 30 small companies that collectively owe in excess of $13 billion have already filed for bankruptcy protection so far during this downturn, according to law firm Haynes & Boone.
Morgan Stanley issued a report this week describing an environment &ldquo worse than 1986&rdquo for energy prices and producers, referring to the last big oil bust that lasted for years. The current downturn is now deeper and longer than each of the five oil price crashes since 1970, said Martijn Rats, an analyst at the bank.
kirana ( Date: 06-Feb-2016 20:56) Posted:
Such is an asset to the nation and cannot be touched.
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Such is an asset to the nation and cannot be touched.
 
Too Late To Run.
花 旗 时 钟 欧 美 市 场 距 离 崩 溃 仅 一 步 之 遥
花 旗 上 月
最 新 报 告 显 示 , 无 论 美 国 还 是 欧 元 区 , 都 已 经 进 入 到 &ldquo 花 旗 时 钟 &rdquo 的 第 四 阶 段 。 这 一 阶 段 被 视 为 &ldquo 崩 溃 时 钟 &mdash &mdash 信 贷 和 股 市 都 呈 现 衰 退 型 下 降 趋 势 。
按 照 花 旗 策 略 分 析 师 Robert Buckland的 说 法 , &ldquo 花 旗 时 钟 &rdquo 可 以 分 为 四 个 阶 段 。
第 一 阶 段 是 衰 退 的 终 结 。 随 着 利 率 的 下 滑 , 信 贷 开 始 复 苏 , 但 是 股 市 依 然 承 压 。
第 二 阶 段 则 可 以 视 为 牛 市 阶 段 , 信 贷 和 股 市 都 表 现 强 劲 。
第 三 阶 段 中 , 虽 然 股 市 依 然 高 歌 猛 进 , 但 是 信 贷 扩 张 却 在 收 窄 。 这 一 阶 段 很 容 易 见 到 泡 沫 的 出 现 。
在 第 四 阶 段 , 由 于 信 贷 收 缩 , 股 市 也 最 终 出 现 崩 盘 , 最 终 导 致 衰 退 出 现 。 通 常 来 说 , 企 业 盈 利 大 幅 下 滑 和 资 产 负 债 表 恶 化 是 该 阶 段 后 比 较 明 显 的 特 征 。
littleones ( Date: 03-Feb-2016 09:09) Posted:
Fear is numero uno in creating panic selling.   If a hedge fund cannot create fear, most retailer shareholders will not sell.   If the shareholders do not sell how can the shortists buy low after selling high 
Most retail investors will follow any news, whether true or not.   Thats how the evil manipulators make from the masses. 
Anyway, oil is going to be around for the forseeable future until a viable alternative is found.   Oil is a finite resource and consumption is ever increasing so the only way for oil price is up. 
The current low oil price is not natural but due to a deliberate politicking between different oil producing countries.   Oil price will not stay low.   How long it stay low will depend on how it affect the oil producing countries. 
My gut feeling is that it will behave like a compressed spring ready to overshoot when the applied force is released. 
That what I know. 
alan5793 ( Date: 03-Feb-2016 06:55) Posted:
OMG. WTI Crude Oil plunged 6.1% to 29.71 , Brent plunged 5% to 32.53. OMG.
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Fear is numero uno in creating panic selling.   If a hedge fund cannot create fear, most retailer shareholders will not sell.   If the shareholders do not sell how can the shortists buy low after selling high 
Most retail investors will follow any news, whether true or not.   Thats how the evil manipulators make from the masses. 
Anyway, oil is going to be around for the forseeable future until a viable alternative is found.   Oil is a finite resource and consumption is ever increasing so the only way for oil price is up. 
The current low oil price is not natural but due to a deliberate politicking between different oil producing countries.   Oil price will not stay low.   How long it stay low will depend on how it affect the oil producing countries. 
My gut feeling is that it will behave like a compressed spring ready to overshoot when the applied force is released. 
That what I know. 
alan5793 ( Date: 03-Feb-2016 06:55) Posted:
OMG. WTI Crude Oil plunged 6.1% to 29.71 , Brent plunged 5% to 32.53. OMG.
WhyWhy ( Date: 02-Feb-2016 22:41) Posted:
OMG !!! Don't be a sucker to dump your shares in a panic.. this is an ad for solar energy related stocks..
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OMG. WTI Crude Oil plunged 6.1% to 29.71 , Brent plunged 5% to 32.53. OMG.
WhyWhy ( Date: 02-Feb-2016 22:41) Posted:
OMG !!! Don't be a sucker to dump your shares in a panic.. this is an ad for solar energy related stocks..
alan5793 ( Date: 02-Feb-2016 22:30) Posted:
OMG
Billionaire trader says " half the U.S. energy
industry will be bankrupt in 6 months"
Dear Reader,
At this moment, oil is caught in an absolute death spiral.
And a handful of billionaires are quietly dumping oil stocks at an alarming clip...
This mass exodus comes alongside oil' s fall to an 11-year low, dipping below $35 per barrel for the first time since 2004, even lower than the 2008 financial crisis.
This situation is so severe that legendary billionaire energy investor John Arnold says " half the U.S. energy industry will be bankrupt in 6 months."
Warren Buffett dumped his entire Exxon position worth over $3.8 billion.
Bill Gates unloaded nearly $1 billion worth of oil stocks.
And George Soros couldn' t get out of oil fast enough, selling off multiple positions...
Pundits would have you believe a temporary " global supply glut" is to blame.
They couldn' t be more wrong...
The real reason is much more ominous and could push oil as low as $10 per barrel, completely decimating Big Oil and sending the broader markets into a full-blown collapse.
You see, a shocking discovery outside Bern, Switzerland has unlocked a massive supply of free fuel.
Enough fuel, in fact, to power the entire world for 36,000 years.
This fuel is so cheap, so easy to access, and so abundant that Fortune 500 companies - including Google, Apple, and Facebook - are investing billions to move into this technology.
At the same time, nearly every major energy player on the planet is shunning oil in favor of this new fuel. In fact, the U.S. Department of Defense just invested $7 billion in a single day.
And Saudi Arabia' s oil minister, Ali Al-Naimi, says the country is investing $109 billion to bring this new fuel on line and could stop using oil entirely.
Please understand: This is NOT a temporary condition. It is the beginning of the end for Big Oil.
A member of the United States intelligence community, recognized for his work with Presidential citations from Presidents Nixon and Reagan, has stepped forward to reveal exactly how this " universal fuel" will enable America to declare complete energy independence for the first time in 40 years.
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OMG !!! Don't be a sucker to dump your shares in a panic.. this is an ad for solar energy related stocks..
alan5793 ( Date: 02-Feb-2016 22:30) Posted:
OMG
Billionaire trader says " half the U.S. energy
industry will be bankrupt in 6 months"
Dear Reader,
At this moment, oil is caught in an absolute death spiral.
And a handful of billionaires are quietly dumping oil stocks at an alarming clip...
This mass exodus comes alongside oil' s fall to an 11-year low, dipping below $35 per barrel for the first time since 2004, even lower than the 2008 financial crisis.
This situation is so severe that legendary billionaire energy investor John Arnold says " half the U.S. energy industry will be bankrupt in 6 months."
Warren Buffett dumped his entire Exxon position worth over $3.8 billion.
Bill Gates unloaded nearly $1 billion worth of oil stocks.
And George Soros couldn' t get out of oil fast enough, selling off multiple positions...
Pundits would have you believe a temporary " global supply glut" is to blame.
They couldn' t be more wrong...
The real reason is much more ominous and could push oil as low as $10 per barrel, completely decimating Big Oil and sending the broader markets into a full-blown collapse.
You see, a shocking discovery outside Bern, Switzerland has unlocked a massive supply of free fuel.
Enough fuel, in fact, to power the entire world for 36,000 years.
This fuel is so cheap, so easy to access, and so abundant that Fortune 500 companies - including Google, Apple, and Facebook - are investing billions to move into this technology.
At the same time, nearly every major energy player on the planet is shunning oil in favor of this new fuel. In fact, the U.S. Department of Defense just invested $7 billion in a single day.
And Saudi Arabia' s oil minister, Ali Al-Naimi, says the country is investing $109 billion to bring this new fuel on line and could stop using oil entirely.
Please understand: This is NOT a temporary condition. It is the beginning of the end for Big Oil.
A member of the United States intelligence community, recognized for his work with Presidential citations from Presidents Nixon and Reagan, has stepped forward to reveal exactly how this " universal fuel" will enable America to declare complete energy independence for the first time in 40 years.
ehclim ( Date: 01-Feb-2016 11:40) Posted:
SG enconmy will be crippled if SCI hits $1.2.
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OMG
Billionaire trader says " half the U.S. energy
industry will be bankrupt in 6 months"
Dear Reader,
At this moment, oil is caught in an absolute death spiral.
And a handful of billionaires are quietly dumping oil stocks at an alarming clip...
This mass exodus comes alongside oil' s fall to an 11-year low, dipping below $35 per barrel for the first time since 2004, even lower than the 2008 financial crisis.
This situation is so severe that legendary billionaire energy investor John Arnold says " half the U.S. energy industry will be bankrupt in 6 months."
Warren Buffett dumped his entire Exxon position worth over $3.8 billion.
Bill Gates unloaded nearly $1 billion worth of oil stocks.
And George Soros couldn' t get out of oil fast enough, selling off multiple positions...
Pundits would have you believe a temporary " global supply glut" is to blame.
They couldn' t be more wrong...
The real reason is much more ominous and could push oil as low as $10 per barrel, completely decimating Big Oil and sending the broader markets into a full-blown collapse.
You see, a shocking discovery outside Bern, Switzerland has unlocked a massive supply of free fuel.
Enough fuel, in fact, to power the entire world for 36,000 years.
This fuel is so cheap, so easy to access, and so abundant that Fortune 500 companies - including Google, Apple, and Facebook - are investing billions to move into this technology.
At the same time, nearly every major energy player on the planet is shunning oil in favor of this new fuel. In fact, the U.S. Department of Defense just invested $7 billion in a single day.
And Saudi Arabia' s oil minister, Ali Al-Naimi, says the country is investing $109 billion to bring this new fuel on line and could stop using oil entirely.
Please understand: This is NOT a temporary condition. It is the beginning of the end for Big Oil.
A member of the United States intelligence community, recognized for his work with Presidential citations from Presidents Nixon and Reagan, has stepped forward to reveal exactly how this " universal fuel" will enable America to declare complete energy independence for the first time in 40 years.
ehclim ( Date: 01-Feb-2016 11:40) Posted:
SG enconmy will be crippled if SCI hits $1.2.
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 01-Feb-2016 10:48) Posted:
$1.20 ?  you think SCI is doing " karang guni " business ? 
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SG enconmy will be crippled if SCI hits $1.2.
KAMAL0883 ( Date: 01-Feb-2016 10:48) Posted:
$1.20 ?  you think SCI is doing " karang guni " business ? 
risktaker ( Date: 21-Jan-2016 11:51) Posted:
Looks like we may visit 1.20 to 1.50 range.... if sembcorp would buy out marine ... pretty sure they would buyout sembcorp marine below 1 dollar more likely to be 50 to 80 cents range... its book value is meaningless at this moment...
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$1.20 ?  you think SCI is doing " karang guni " business ? 
risktaker ( Date: 21-Jan-2016 11:51) Posted:
Looks like we may visit 1.20 to 1.50 range.... if sembcorp would buy out marine ... pretty sure they would buyout sembcorp marine below 1 dollar more likely to be 50 to 80 cents range... its book value is meaningless at this moment...
Sembcorp industry may hit 1.20 range before bottom out.. |
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Is Sembcorp attempting to break out of 2.60 ?
Be mindful of the invisble hands that manipulate.. and the media is one of  their tools.. fear drives prices down so that they can be accumulated on the cheap..
If Sembcorp Industries (or Keppel Corp) is not one of the more desirable blue chips, how many others are?
Price dropping like a hot potato because of fear it will buy out Sembmarine?.. if not true it will be sharp U-turn and become a rocket.. don' t miss it..
If buying out Sembmarine is so bad for Semb Ind why will they want to do it?.. why not let Sembmarine issue rights to save itself?
Looks like we may visit 1.20 to 1.50 range.... if sembcorp would buy out marine ... pretty sure they would buyout sembcorp marine below 1 dollar more likely to be 50 to 80 cents range... its book value is meaningless at this moment...
Sembcorp industry may hit 1.20 range before bottom out..
Truely agree! I think the next one after  OIL price plunge will be GOLD.
So let' s see how it divide...
sgng123 ( Date: 20-Jan-2016 11:40) Posted:
Run while u can, 2008 coming this time round american not saving us. It everyone for himselves, 45 rally yesterday got totally destroyed by 65 plunge today, STI testing 2500 if cannot hold prepare for sti submarine below 2000
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Run while u can, 2008 coming this time round american not saving us. It everyone for himselves, 45 rally yesterday got totally destroyed by 65 plunge today, STI testing 2500 if cannot hold prepare for sti submarine below 2000
Looks yummy at this price