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chengwh1
    01-Dec-2023 00:11  
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Good evening FP,... Keppel Pacific Oak' s Geraing is below 40% or even if exceeded, it' s not far from 40%,... have not checked before I input this. Why not Keppel Pacific Oak instead of Prime ?

fatpig      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 20:58) Posted:

2H2022 - Gearing Ratio 42.1%, Share price USD 0.465
3Q2023 - Gearing Ratio 43.2%, Share price USD 0.123



 

 
 
chengwh1
    01-Dec-2023 00:09  
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Just checked back on this thread from my hotel room,... you really took the trouble to check on me. You really have nothing better to do,... sorry, I did not take the trouble to check on the Gearing. I don' t think it' s important.

I have more productive things to do than to be like you : harbouring bitterness in your heart which prompts you to put in the trouble to check on small matters like this.... have a life, man,...

Look at the price now, look at comments from others in this thread after your ' LIES' input.

Time will tell.
 

delsolvtec      ( Date: 20-Nov-2023 14:11) Posted:

All i can say is : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LIES from some people , cannot be trusted.

chengwh1      ( Date: 19-Nov-2023 13:00) Posted:

Just read my inputs this weekend.

You are focussing on the wrong thing this time. You are ' caught' by the dividend payout which may stop if the valuation drops by,... say, 10% ? Enoughsaid abt your dividend enthusiasm here,...

I will chk on the latest gearing ratio now,... and,... pls don' t call it a LIE. I am trying to conduct a discussion here. From my many postings, you would see I am a dividend investor, not a Shortist. Unless of course, you just blabbered out without checking. I accept corrections,.. but not accussations.
 


 
 
fatpig
    30-Nov-2023 20:58  
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2H2022 - Gearing Ratio 42.1%, Share price USD 0.465
3Q2023 - Gearing Ratio 43.2%, Share price USD 0.123



 
 

 
Stocky901
    30-Nov-2023 17:04  
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Possible if today closed at day-low. 🤔 🧐

Zhlim123      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 16:18) Posted:

is the next support range $0.10 and below?

Stocky901      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 14:20) Posted:

Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔


 
 
Zhlim123
    30-Nov-2023 16:18  
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is the next support range $0.10 and below?

Stocky901      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 14:20) Posted:

Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔

Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:26) Posted:

its okay at least i am not a bagholder can lia


 
 
Fallingman
    30-Nov-2023 16:13  
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I personally don't short stocks. But I think have to really keep clear first, the 0.08 mark may be re tested at this rate.
 

 
Ryuuenji
    30-Nov-2023 15:35  
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Another dont know how to recognise how to go home counter. See it dropped like that so shiokingly happy

SGX no bullrun, its ok. Bears running also can makes money.. beauty of SGX
 
 
Zhlim123
    30-Nov-2023 13:14  
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have to wait till 2024 as it has 4 loan expiry in 2024 + refinancing risk. but i think by 2024, the overhang on it becoming like MUST or whether it has stabilised should be clearer. The remaining 5th loan is till 2029. 

checkmate      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 11:34) Posted:

So Zhlim is the expert now? FYI, MUST management is still happily drawing management fees despite being " dumb" and running it into the ground.
PRIME is a potential MUST, that one I agree. It has a valuation buffer of 12.9% (reported in their 3Q23 update) before hitting the 50% gearing limit.
To put that buffer into context, MUST valuations fell by 14.6% from end 22 to mid 23 alone.
So what kind of valuation decline do you think PRIME will get from end 22 to end 23?

Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:57) Posted:

Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake


 
 
Caesar
    30-Nov-2023 11:58  
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Didn't say Zhlim is an expert. But you seem to be the self-proclaimed expert. Just kidding, pls don't be offended. Thanks anyway for your expert analysis 😛
 
 
checkmate
    30-Nov-2023 11:34  
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So Zhlim is the expert now? FYI, MUST management is still happily drawing management fees despite being " dumb" and running it into the ground.
PRIME is a potential MUST, that one I agree. It has a valuation buffer of 12.9% (reported in their 3Q23 update) before hitting the 50% gearing limit.
To put that buffer into context, MUST valuations fell by 14.6% from end 22 to mid 23 alone.
So what kind of valuation decline do you think PRIME will get from end 22 to end 23?

Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:57) Posted:

Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake?

marketuncle      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:39) Posted:

Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happen


 

 
marketuncle
    30-Nov-2023 11:28  
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All it takes is larger than expected devaluation of their properties to breach loan covenants, and at the worst case, end up like Must

Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:57) Posted:

Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake?

marketuncle      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:39) Posted:

Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happen


 
 
Caesar
    30-Nov-2023 10:57  
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Prime is unfairly targetted because of what happened to MUST. Even Zhlim has pointed out that this scenario is unlikely to happen to PRIME due to a strong sponsor. Furthermore it has not stopped its distributions to investors. After what happened to MUST, do you think management of PRIME reit is that dumb to repeat MUST's mistake?

marketuncle      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:39) Posted:

Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happens

Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:33) Posted:

Thought Manulife is the one having issues. Why is Prime falling nonstop instead


 
 
marketuncle
    30-Nov-2023 10:39  
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Because PRIME at risk to become MUST, and what is to come if that happens

Caesar      ( Date: 30-Nov-2023 10:33) Posted:

Thought Manulife is the one having issues. Why is Prime falling nonstop instead?

huattuatua      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 16:25) Posted:

kateks made til nose bleed


 
 
Caesar
    30-Nov-2023 10:33  
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Thought Manulife is the one having issues. Why is Prime falling nonstop instead?

huattuatua      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 16:25) Posted:

kateks made til nose bleed

 
 
Stocky901
    29-Nov-2023 20:39  
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🤤 🤤 🤤 more to come..

huattuatua      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 16:25) Posted:

kateks made til nose bleed

 

 
huattuatua
    29-Nov-2023 16:25  
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kateks made til nose bleed
 
 
mav1ryan
    29-Nov-2023 14:43  
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Personally, I think MUST and Prime are animals of the same skin...

Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 11:50) Posted:

but prime might not face this scenario due to having a good sponsor

marketuncle      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 11:35) Posted:

MUST showing PRIME the nightmare scenario...:(


 
 
Zhlim123
    29-Nov-2023 14:24  
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thanks for the info. for me i will wait until $0.10 before considering

Stocky901      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 14:20) Posted:

Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔

Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:26) Posted:

its okay at least i am not a bagholder can lia


 
 
Stocky901
    29-Nov-2023 14:20  
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Next support range 0.122 to 0.129. 🧐 🤔

Zhlim123      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:26) Posted:

its okay at least i am not a bagholder can liao

delsolvtec      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:20) Posted:

Wow, you seem to have ADHD . Lol pity yo


 
 
Zhlim123
    29-Nov-2023 13:52  
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hard to say

tuntun      ( Date: 29-Nov-2023 13:47) Posted:

Correction done? 

 
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