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governor
    25-Apr-2023 20:21  
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beetlejuice      ( Date: 25-Apr-2023 19:06) Posted:

Thank you for the updates. Bought thrice betw 9.47 to 9.75. Ready for a 4th buy, hopefully before XD on 05 May.

governor      ( Date: 25-Apr-2023 18:23) Posted:


Wolf Money(10 things you need to know about Haw Par Corporation Annual General Meeting held on 25 April 2023)

https://lonewolfinvestor.blogspot.com/2023/04/wolf-money10-things-you-need-to-know.html
 


 
 
beetlejuice
    25-Apr-2023 19:06  
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Thank you for the updates. Bought thrice betw 9.47 to 9.75. Ready for a 4th buy, hopefully before XD on 05 May.

governor      ( Date: 25-Apr-2023 18:23) Posted:


Wolf Money(10 things you need to know about Haw Par Corporation Annual General Meeting held on 25 April 2023)

https://lonewolfinvestor.blogspot.com/2023/04/wolf-money10-things-you-need-to-know.html
 

 
 
governor
    25-Apr-2023 18:23  
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Wolf Money(10 things you need to know about Haw Par Corporation Annual General Meeting held on 25 April 2023)

https://lonewolfinvestor.blogspot.com/2023/04/wolf-money10-things-you-need-to-know.html
 
 

 
governor
    20-Apr-2023 19:17  
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Wolf Money(Haw Par AGM Questions and Answers)

 

AGM is the best time for asking questions. It is the only time of the year for the shareholders to put their board of directors and CEO to the test with some questions, some difficult one can throw them off course. It is also the only time of the year to make your board of directors and ceo work for their money. Haha. Here are my questions to Haw Par Corporation. Sometime I might just throw them a hard one to spice up the AGM. Management replies are in green.

 

https://lonewolfinvestor.blogspot.com/2023/04/wolf-moneyhaw-par-agm-questions-and.html
 
 
kandinsky
    10-Apr-2023 14:27  
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Another week looking like a dead cock
 
 
Ftyeng
    05-Apr-2023 15:13  
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Don' t know, only know Dr Wee (Cho Yaw) recently only bought more UOL shares but did not buy more Haw Par shares.   UOL stock price has been moving upwards these few days.     This also benefits Haw Par but it may take a while before it is reflected in the stock price.

bechaotic      ( Date: 05-Apr-2023 11:45) Posted:

Some said HP was set up by the rich to benefit the rich.  Is this true?

 

 
bechaotic
    05-Apr-2023 11:45  
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Some said HP was set up by the rich to benefit the rich.  Is this true?
 
 
kandinsky
    05-Apr-2023 09:47  
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Assets worth more than share price by $6, if not undervalued, then what?
 
 
kandinsky
    05-Apr-2023 09:46  
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Super undervalued, why are they foolish?

beetlejuice      ( Date: 03-Apr-2023 09:34) Posted:

More "foolish" people are joining in liao. 🐅 🐆 💰 🧧

beetlejuice      ( Date: 30-Mar-2023 10:08) Posted:

Attracting attention liao. 🐅 🐆 To succeed in investing over the long run, you must be prepared to look stupid in the short run. 💰 🧧


 
 
beetlejuice
    03-Apr-2023 09:34  
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More "foolish" people are joining in liao. 🐅 🐆 💰 🧧

beetlejuice      ( Date: 30-Mar-2023 10:08) Posted:

Attracting attention liao. 🐅 🐆 To succeed in investing over the long run, you must be prepared to look stupid in the short run. 💰 🧧

 

 
governor
    30-Mar-2023 21:58  
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Portfolio update part 1
Titanic 


The year was 1997 when the movie ' Titanic' started its record breaking box office journey. This year is the 25th anniversary since the first screening of the movie. In my opinion, the movie is by far the best movie Hollywood had ever produced, the movie had everything going for it, a strong storyline, good emotion, breathtaking cgi, A list casts and great soundtracks, it was a mind bending experience watching the movie.

https://lonewolfinvestor.blogspot.com/2023/03/wolf-moneyportfolio-update-for-end.html
 

Portfolio update part 2 Haw Par related
Commentary


Most markets had a volatile March due to SVB fallout and the blow up of Credit Suisse. SVB downfall was a classic case of mismanaging of risks. One been clients concentration risk(tech), the other been interest rate risk and liquidity risk sum up the situation.

https://lonewolfinvestor.blogspot.com/2023/03/wolf-moneyportfolio-update-for-end-of.html


 
 
 
beetlejuice
    30-Mar-2023 10:08  
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Attracting attention liao. 🐅 🐆 To succeed in investing over the long run, you must be prepared to look stupid in the short run. 💰 🧧
 
 
Ftyeng
    29-Mar-2023 18:38  
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It depends on how the traders and investors look at them.

One could be stuck there for a long time is market sentiment is not so good until someones who made money elsewhere comes and push up the prices.

So investors prefer those where they " could earn more while they wait"
traders prefer those high volumes ones where they could buy low and sell high
cautious people with extra money prefer those that they could get safe returns
of course there are also those that like slow and steady ones rather than votalite ones.

I have quite diversified porfolio but I am also waiting for many undervalued stocks with good fundamentals and profits to climb up.   Fortunately I also have good dividends paying stocks that are making my life happier.

kandinsky      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 14:46) Posted:

So companies earning well but don't pay good dividends must be perpetually punished with low share price? What the logic? A company is valued by their assets and earnings, not how much dividend they pay out, right?

Ftyeng      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 10:36) Posted:

Yes, but there are always people who are going for good stable returns.   The increased cost of operations affected profits and dividend payouts so more people like guaranteed returns.

Those kinds of companies would be reported by some investment websites as paying out unsustainable dividends.

In Singapore context, companies that make good returns consistently must pay dividends


 
 
kandinsky
    29-Mar-2023 14:46  
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So companies earning well but don't pay good dividends must be perpetually punished with low share price? What the logic? A company is valued by their assets and earnings, not how much dividend they pay out, right?

Ftyeng      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 10:36) Posted:

Yes, but there are always people who are going for good stable returns.   The increased cost of operations affected profits and dividend payouts so more people like guaranteed returns.

Those kinds of companies would be reported by some investment websites as paying out unsustainable dividends.

In Singapore context, companies that make good returns consistently must pay dividends.

kandinsky      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 08:49) Posted:

Share price should track things like revenue and earnings more than dividend. People are buying shares for investment value, not opening a fixed deposit. If dividend is a main determinant of share price, then companies with shitty earnings can just prop up share price by announcing good dividends for one year? What about companies with consistently good earnings but don't pay dividends, their share price should go down the drain?


 
 
Ftyeng
    29-Mar-2023 10:36  
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Yes, but there are always people who are going for good stable returns.   The increased cost of operations affected profits and dividend payouts so more people like guaranteed returns.

Those kinds of companies would be reported by some investment websites as paying out unsustainable dividends.

In Singapore context, companies that make good returns consistently must pay dividends.

kandinsky      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 08:49) Posted:

Share price should track things like revenue and earnings more than dividend. People are buying shares for investment value, not opening a fixed deposit. If dividend is a main determinant of share price, then companies with shitty earnings can just prop up share price by announcing good dividends for one year? What about companies with consistently good earnings but don't pay dividends, their share price should go down the drain?

beetlejuice      ( Date: 28-Mar-2023 12:53) Posted:

Yep FD & T-bills all sport higher rates than dividends from 🐅 🐆 . But do rmb 🐅 🐆 is a business & it's currently undervalued whichever ways u look at it. So I am prep to wait & collect dividends meantime. 🧧 💰


 

 
kandinsky
    29-Mar-2023 09:15  
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Not a question of whether bought at reasonable price or not a stock trading at 40% below nav with good earnings report just defies logic.

beetlejuice      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 09:09) Posted:

So if u bought at reasonable price, just wait bah. For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases. 🧧 💰

kandinsky      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 08:49) Posted:

Share price should track things like revenue and earnings more than dividend. People are buying shares for investment value, not opening a fixed deposit. If dividend is a main determinant of share price, then companies with shitty earnings can just prop up share price by announcing good dividends for one year? What about companies with consistently good earnings but don't pay dividends, their share price should go down the drain?


 
 
beetlejuice
    29-Mar-2023 09:09  
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So if u bought at reasonable price, just wait bah. For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases. 🧧 💰

kandinsky      ( Date: 29-Mar-2023 08:49) Posted:

Share price should track things like revenue and earnings more than dividend. People are buying shares for investment value, not opening a fixed deposit. If dividend is a main determinant of share price, then companies with shitty earnings can just prop up share price by announcing good dividends for one year? What about companies with consistently good earnings but don't pay dividends, their share price should go down the drain?

beetlejuice      ( Date: 28-Mar-2023 12:53) Posted:

Yep FD & T-bills all sport higher rates than dividends from 🐅 🐆 . But do rmb 🐅 🐆 is a business & it's currently undervalued whichever ways u look at it. So I am prep to wait & collect dividends meantime. 🧧 💰


 
 
kandinsky
    29-Mar-2023 08:49  
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Share price should track things like revenue and earnings more than dividend. People are buying shares for investment value, not opening a fixed deposit. If dividend is a main determinant of share price, then companies with shitty earnings can just prop up share price by announcing good dividends for one year? What about companies with consistently good earnings but don't pay dividends, their share price should go down the drain?

beetlejuice      ( Date: 28-Mar-2023 12:53) Posted:

Yep FD & T-bills all sport higher rates than dividends from 🐅 🐆 . But do rmb 🐅 🐆 is a business & it's currently undervalued whichever ways u look at it. So I am prep to wait & collect dividends meantime. 🧧 💰

Ftyeng      ( Date: 28-Mar-2023 11:47) Posted:

Because of US Federal Reserve' s interest rates and local banks' s FD rates both higher than Haw Par' s dividend rates.

Haw Par is an " elephant" ( big but moves slowly ) stock.

People with at least $10k to $20k to spare would choose to park their money the gauranteed higher interet rates places unlike last time when interest rates were a lot lower.   Smaller retail investors like me who already invested here and there are stuck with depreciated stocks and not willing to sell good investments.   Also Haw Par is quite expensive and require a few months pay just to buy one lot.   Trading volume is relatively low and there is another competing component stock priced higher that is highly traded.

But I must agree, it is a good stock, last time I had approximately 20% profit margin.

Keep waiting if you could, it would bear more fruits one day.

 


 
 
beetlejuice
    28-Mar-2023 12:53  
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Yep FD & T-bills all sport higher rates than dividends from 🐅 🐆 . But do rmb 🐅 🐆 is a business & it's currently undervalued whichever ways u look at it. So I am prep to wait & collect dividends meantime. 🧧 💰

Ftyeng      ( Date: 28-Mar-2023 11:47) Posted:

Because of US Federal Reserve' s interest rates and local banks' s FD rates both higher than Haw Par' s dividend rates.

Haw Par is an " elephant" ( big but moves slowly ) stock.

People with at least $10k to $20k to spare would choose to park their money the gauranteed higher interet rates places unlike last time when interest rates were a lot lower.   Smaller retail investors like me who already invested here and there are stuck with depreciated stocks and not willing to sell good investments.   Also Haw Par is quite expensive and require a few months pay just to buy one lot.   Trading volume is relatively low and there is another competing component stock priced higher that is highly traded.

But I must agree, it is a good stock, last time I had approximately 20% profit margin.

Keep waiting if you could, it would bear more fruits one day.

 

kandinsky      ( Date: 15-Mar-2023 16:09) Posted:

I have no idea why this stock has been pressed down, any idea?


 
 
Ftyeng
    28-Mar-2023 11:47  
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Because of US Federal Reserve' s interest rates and local banks' s FD rates both higher than Haw Par' s dividend rates.

Haw Par is an " elephant" ( big but moves slowly ) stock.

People with at least $10k to $20k to spare would choose to park their money the gauranteed higher interet rates places unlike last time when interest rates were a lot lower.   Smaller retail investors like me who already invested here and there are stuck with depreciated stocks and not willing to sell good investments.   Also Haw Par is quite expensive and require a few months pay just to buy one lot.   Trading volume is relatively low and there is another competing component stock priced higher that is highly traded.

But I must agree, it is a good stock, last time I had approximately 20% profit margin.

Keep waiting if you could, it would bear more fruits one day.

 

kandinsky      ( Date: 15-Mar-2023 16:09) Posted:

I have no idea why this stock has been pressed down, any idea?

 
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