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Bro. Each funds has their own rules and limit how much they can buy a certain stocks. They are insurance co, pension funds, bank, unit trust, and other funds. Too many, even they are king kong, with say 100 million just for dbs, can they whack the counter to more than 26.50 in short time, you whack it up then other funds all combine and sell to you, can sustain or not? But if you use 100 million to inflate it 40 cents high that possible, but 40 cents is just 1.xx% only, got different or not? 

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:51) Posted: Bro, For large caps, where small monkeys could not handle, their big brothers, gorillas are from the banks and instiuitions. All same same, just who has morre money to push the price only. shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:36) Posted: Bro. Only very very few counters eg those that has connection with major share holders able to manipulate market. For counter eg cmt, if you crash down the stock, you need to sell say 50000 lots and sell from 2.42 to 2.33. Each level you sold 5000 lots, unless you can collect say 20000 lots at 2.33, 10000 lots at 2.34,2.35,2.36 each, then you drive up to 2.42 with 5000 lots each, and you can unload most say at 2.41/2.42 for 80000 lots then you can only make some money.  Above is just pure illustration, but along the way, not just the monkey solo performance, there are also other buyer and seller there. You pump up the price, then there are other funds selling to you. Not easy bro. for cmt that day goes 2.33 and more than 12 million shares matching at pre closing, it is very simple explanation, few funds is selling and few other funds is buying. The seller maybe they want to reshuffle their portfolio, the buyer is they want to go in at cheap price at 2.33. That is it.  The logic is You want to sell to me cheap price then I buy., and I wait for stock rebound then I sell. It is purely supply and demand la. Do you believe dbs or uob has monkey? Not possible

 

Bro,

You are right. Don' t challenge these monkeys or gorillas. Just ride the trend.

shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:46) Posted: Ok maybe yes. But they can&rsquo t beat us if we buy at near bottom. We just take a ride following the trend and trading range.  fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:42) Posted: Bro, The speaker of IG seminar tonight also said the SGX stock market is " mainpulated" by " syndicates" . And that matched my personal understanding. So, have to explore other places to have fun

 

Bro,

For large caps, where small monkeys could not handle, their big brothers, gorillas are from the banks and instiuitions. All same same, just who has morre money to push the price only.

shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:36) Posted: Bro. Only very very few counters eg those that has connection with major share holders able to manipulate market. For counter eg cmt, if you crash down the stock, you need to sell say 50000 lots and sell from 2.42 to 2.33. Each level you sold 5000 lots, unless you can collect say 20000 lots at 2.33, 10000 lots at 2.34,2.35,2.36 each, then you drive up to 2.42 with 5000 lots each, and you can unload most say at 2.41/2.42 for 80000 lots then you can only make some money.  Above is just pure illustration, but along the way, not just the monkey solo performance, there are also other buyer and seller there. You pump up the price, then there are other funds selling to you. Not easy bro. for cmt that day goes 2.33 and more than 12 million shares matching at pre closing, it is very simple explanation, few funds is selling and few other funds is buying. The seller maybe they want to reshuffle their portfolio, the buyer is they want to go in at cheap price at 2.33. That is it.  The logic is You want to sell to me cheap price then I buy., and I wait for stock rebound then I sell. It is purely supply and demand la. Do you believe dbs or uob has monkey? Not possible    fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:19) Posted: Bro, In my personal opnion, SGX stock market is full of monkeys and shortists. They are more or less in control and the stock prices are mainly manipulated by them. So, it is " one-sided" market and tough for the retail players to trade. I am trying to look at the " bigger" markets now which has less influence by one or two monkeys

 

Ok maybe yes. But they can&rsquo t beat us if we buy at near bottom. We just take a ride following the trend and trading range. 

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:42) Posted: Bro, The speaker of IG seminar tonight also said the SGX stock market is " mainpulated" by " syndicates" . And that matched my personal understanding. So, have to explore other places to have fun. shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:38) Posted: No harm to try something new, if you can profit consistently then is very good

 

Bro,

The speaker of IG seminar tonight also said the SGX stock market is " mainpulated" by " syndicates" . And that matched my personal understanding. So, have to explore other places to have fun.

shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:38) Posted: No harm to try something new, if you can profit consistently then is very good  fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:33) Posted: Bro, Maybe, I have to migrate to Ang Moh side liao...

 

No harm to try something new, if you can profit consistently then is very good 

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:33) Posted: Bro, Maybe, I have to migrate to Ang Moh side liao...   fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:26) Posted: Bro, Just opened demo trade on US stock option " Marcy" based on TA. Immediately see profit after opened the trade. another demo option trade Pfizer opened on yesterday night, also in the money. All decision based on TA. In SGX market, you probably being eaten up by the monkeys if the trade is excuted based on TA.

 

Bro. Only very very few counters eg those that has connection with major share holders able to manipulate market. For counter eg cmt, if you crash down the stock, you need to sell say 50000 lots and sell from 2.42 to 2.33. Each level you sold 5000 lots, unless you can collect say 20000 lots at 2.33, 10000 lots at 2.34,2.35,2.36 each, then you drive up to 2.42 with 5000 lots each, and you can unload most say at 2.41/2.42 for 80000 lots then you can only make some money. 

Above is just pure illustration, but along the way, not just the monkey solo performance, there are also other buyer and seller there. You pump up the price, then there are other funds selling to you. Not easy bro.

for cmt that day goes 2.33 and more than 12 million shares matching at pre closing, it is very simple explanation, few funds is selling and few other funds is buying. The seller maybe they want to reshuffle their portfolio, the buyer is they want to go in at cheap price at 2.33. That is it. 

The logic is You want to sell to me cheap price then I buy., and I wait for stock rebound then I sell. It is purely supply and demand la. Do you believe dbs or uob has monkey? Not possible 

 

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:19) Posted: Bro, In my personal opnion, SGX stock market is full of monkeys and shortists. They are more or less in control and the stock prices are mainly manipulated by them. So, it is " one-sided" market and tough for the retail players to trade. I am trying to look at the " bigger" markets now which has less influence by one or two monkeys. shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:11) Posted: I don know much on fx, but I think fx is more risky than stock

 

Bro,

Maybe, I have to migrate to Ang Moh side liao...



 

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:26) Posted: Bro, Just opened demo trade on US stock option " Marcy" based on TA. Immediately see profit after opened the trade. another demo option trade Pfizer opened on yesterday night, also in the money. All decision based on TA. In SGX market, you probably being eaten up by the monkeys if the trade is excuted based on TA.

 

Bro,

Just opened demo trade on US stock option " Marcy" based on TA. Immediately see profit after opened the trade. another demo option trade Pfizer opened on yesterday night, also in the money. All decision based on TA. In SGX market, you probably being eaten up by the monkeys if the trade is excuted based on TA. 

 

Bro,

In my personal opnion, SGX stock market is full of monkeys and shortists. They are more or less in control and the stock prices are mainly manipulated by them. So, it is " one-sided" market and tough for the retail players to trade. I am trying to look at the " bigger" markets now which has less influence by one or two monkeys.

shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:11) Posted: I don know much on fx, but I think fx is more risky than stock. fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:09) Posted: Bro, I am exploring the FX trading now. Just attended a free Algotrade introduction seminar conducted by IG tonight.

 

You should ask for bro and sis opinion before you did it. Don be scared by tfa everyday pull back shouting. Look at majority of others counters, if only few red, actually those reds are those that going to rebound over time.

just like there from time to time calling that banks will plunge 3.5 while whole world doing steady u think make sense or not?

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:13) Posted: Bro, Yes. That' s was a " fatal" mistake make by me. Stop loss was set too tight on Sam, and too far away on AKK. I did not manage " stop loss" well.  shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:09) Posted: Your Sam and akk you sold at lowest price, by right this should not happen. You know that 2.52 or 2.92 is these two counters very bottom. If you hold for another one or two days, you Ho say now. What a miss

 

Bro,

Yes. That' s was a " fatal" mistake make by me. Stop loss was set too tight on Sam, and too far away on AKK. I did not manage " stop loss" well. 

shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:09) Posted: Your Sam and akk you sold at lowest price, by right this should not happen. You know that 2.52 or 2.92 is these two counters very bottom. If you hold for another one or two days, you Ho say now. What a miss. fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:06) Posted: Bro, Small losses due to " stop loss" triggered on Sam and AKK. Loss about 1K+. No problem. I trade small lots to get the feel, so losses also keep small.

 

I don know much on fx, but I think fx is more risky than stock.

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:09) Posted: Bro, I am exploring the FX trading now. Just attended a free Algotrade introduction seminar conducted by IG tonight.

 

Your Sam and akk you sold at lowest price, by right this should not happen. You know that 2.52 or 2.92 is these two counters very bottom. If you hold for another one or two days, you Ho say now. What a miss.

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:06) Posted: Bro, Small losses due to " stop loss" triggered on Sam and AKK. Loss about 1K+. No problem. I trade small lots to get the feel, so losses also keep small.  shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 22:44) Posted: Bro, not yet la, still early. How is everything? You make profits for this month? just now I suddenly feel worry of stock market, everyday up up, have feeling that stock may crash soon. Maybe 20s day this month? Very funny feeling for me.

 

Bro,

I am exploring the FX trading now. Just attended a free Algotrade introduction seminar conducted by IG tonight. 

 

Bro,

Small losses due to " stop loss" triggered on Sam and AKK. Loss about 1K+. No problem. I trade small lots to get the feel, so losses also keep small. 

shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 22:44) Posted: Bro, not yet la, still early. How is everything? You make profits for this month? just now I suddenly feel worry of stock market, everyday up up, have feeling that stock may crash soon. Maybe 20s day this month? Very funny feeling for me.  fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 22:24) Posted: Bro Shangli, Still not sleeping ah? DOW green green now.... You preparing your shopping list for tomorrow ah?

 

Bro, my strategy is to exit, then stop playing for a while, just feel not right. Maybe my gut feeling is damn wrong 

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 23:02) Posted: Bro. Remember this month is March. Fund managers have to report quarterly results. They have to push up the stock prices to make thier quarterly reports look good. But, whether they would push down the price in next few days to buy cheaper on fear, and then ramp up the price at the end of this month for quarterly closing. We have to observe. shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 22:44) Posted: Bro, not yet la, still early. How is everything? You make profits for this month? just now I suddenly feel worry of stock market, everyday up up, have feeling that stock may crash soon. Maybe 20s day this month? Very funny feeling for me.

 

Bro.

Remember this month is March. Fund managers have to report quarterly results. They have to push up the stock prices to make thier quarterly reports look good. But, whether they would push down the price in next few days to buy cheaper on fear, and then ramp up the price at the end of this month for quarterly closing. We have to observe.

shangli      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 22:44) Posted: Bro, not yet la, still early. How is everything? You make profits for this month? just now I suddenly feel worry of stock market, everyday up up, have feeling that stock may crash soon. Maybe 20s day this month? Very funny feeling for me.  fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 22:24) Posted: Bro Shangli, Still not sleeping ah? DOW green green now.... You preparing your shopping list for tomorrow ah?

 

Bro, not yet la, still early. How is everything? You make profits for this month?

just now I suddenly feel worry of stock market, everyday up up, have feeling that stock may crash soon. Maybe 20s day this month? Very funny feeling for me. 

fatpanda      ( Date: 19-Mar-2019 22:24) Posted: Bro Shangli, Still not sleeping ah? DOW green green now.... You preparing your shopping list for tomorrow ah?

 

Bro Shangli,

Still not sleeping ah? DOW green green now.... You preparing your shopping list for tomorrow ah?