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Bro,
Cut or hold? Hold or cut? See the mood of Mr. Market first before tikam one to go with.
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 23:27) Posted:
Bro and sis,
i also change my trading style a bit now, maybe I&rsquo m getting old already, therefore my stamina of fast in fast out is fading.
For me, I prefer higher profits margin, eg today I bought ste 3.74, if I want to get out 3.76 I can easily exit, but I more prefer exit at 3.77-3.79.
If happen i stuck, I will choose to hold and hope the stock rebound. The benefits of hold is, normally the stock will rebound just like uob drop to 24.7x and rebound to 25.5x. But the danger of hold is, if happen uob drop further to 24.2x level, my position is suffer more than $1.20 loss. Therefore I still need to refine my trading style that cope with my emotion. 
what bro marko said also correct, cut loss too often also cannot, loon too much too long also will make us pokai. So we must strike something in between. But this balance I think is ever changing, if during normal time like now, hold is ok, but if during extreme market moment like market crash, cut still the best option.
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Cut finger nail lo
fatpanda ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 23:19) Posted:
Bro,
Cut my finger? Don' t lah... Panda still have to take the money back from Mr. Market with interest. No finger, then how?
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 23:09) Posted:
Bro cut your finger and warn yourself that next time don cut it too fast  |
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Is 45/55 ball game. Down maybe max 5 cents, up maybe max 3-4 cents
Bro can watch sph tomorrow, long q at 2.39/2.40 should be ok this stock should rebound to eg 2.45/2.46
fatpanda ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 23:21) Posted:
Bro,
Panda feed Ah Mar with 3.30 fts long cucumber today. Swee boh? |
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Bro and sis,
i also change my trading style a bit now, maybe I&rsquo m getting old already, therefore my stamina of fast in fast out is fading.
For me, I prefer higher profits margin, eg today I bought ste 3.74, if I want to get out 3.76 I can easily exit, but I more prefer exit at 3.77-3.79.
If happen i stuck, I will choose to hold and hope the stock rebound. The benefits of hold is, normally the stock will rebound just like uob drop to 24.7x and rebound to 25.5x. But the danger of hold is, if happen uob drop further to 24.2x level, my position is suffer more than $1.20 loss. Therefore I still need to refine my trading style that cope with my emotion.
what bro marko said also correct, cut loss too often also cannot, loon too much too long also will make us pokai. So we must strike something in between. But this balance I think is ever changing, if during normal time like now, hold is ok, but if during extreme market moment like market crash, cut still the best option.
Bro,
Panda feed Ah Mar with 3.30 fts long cucumber today. Swee boh?
Bro,
Cut my finger? Don' t lah... Panda still have to take the money back from Mr. Market with interest. No finger, then how?
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 23:09) Posted:
Bro cut your finger and warn yourself that next time don cut it too fast
fatpanda ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 21:38) Posted:
Bro,
Cut... Cut... Cut... Cut loss. cut hair, cut throat, cut.... cut... cut...
Hahaha... Just joking only.
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Bro cut your finger and warn yourself that next time don cut it too fast
fatpanda ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 21:38) Posted:
Bro,
Cut... Cut... Cut... Cut loss. cut hair, cut throat, cut.... cut... cut...
Hahaha... Just joking only.
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Bro 07, welcome on board
Sephirah07 ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 20:29) Posted:
congrats to your new thread!
looking forward to the sharing, learning & seeing more view points & perspectives!
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Wa bro you really did a good study, now I know only sex and wilmar is the two that are SCS.
for loon or cut, for long position, especially those with good dividend like banks and reits, it is still boil down to individual preference and trading method. So this one I leave it to you. In fact I also loon uob for weeks before I let go at breakeven point.
but, if the position is short, then it is different, if one refuse to cover back say capitaland or ste, the coming dividend can Knock you out, it is more than 10 cents or roughly 3%. So like it or not, one must buy back before xd, again, shorting is for very short term gain or loss, a specific % must be set for cut loss, Or short only when xd is at least eg 45 days away. So it is the combination of % to cut loss and how far away from xd date. I&rsquo m not familiar with ccb anyway, so I can catch the feel like you guys.
Marko1975 ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 21:15) Posted:
Throughout 3 years trend.. Only I can say SGX could be the only SCS.... Next counter which can satisfy SCS could be Wilmar..... These 2 have very defined range bound with 90+% of time within that range.. Others I believe are more normal trading (for only STI linked counters)..... I have my own plan for my trapped funds.. Guess need to trigger my funds to rescue them only or with minimal loss... See how..
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 12:36) Posted:
Bro marko, some stock can range bound within a tight range for months or for years. So someone go claim that this stock is SCS or whatever.
but we don know when this stock will become defiance and break out to another level. We cant say that after a stock break out to another level, then it is SCS1, SCS2, SCS3 and infinite.....ask yourself, if so many SCS, is this really sure come stock or bullshit?
just like bank, falling from 30 to now 25, 30-28 is SCS, 28-26 is SCS1, 26-24 is SCS2
or when they go up, 16-18,18-20,20-22,22-24,24-26,26-28, 28-30, SCS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
bro, make sense or not with so many SCS? clearly above example is not SCS, if someone believe this SCS theory and loon, he is definitely will lost 100% of his capital if he trade 3x.
for us as trader, either doing range trading, momentum trading and so on. if we buy at lower price of the range, we are relatively safe, but if situation turn against us, and the counters break the range and momentum still there, the only choice is to cut loss first.
again, i don short sell, short sell may only work when we are damn sure the market will keep crashing in weeks or months ahead. else don short at normal situation like now. whenever you do both long and short, your trading plan can be upside down, when you are suppose to long and you go and sell and likewise. Clear example is those that change from long to short capitaland, so now what is the outcome? i think they have already cut loss capitaland, they just never inform nia.
anyway, i suggest you cut loss certain counter whenever they pullback quite sharp like cct, or can reverse positon to long it, this is also a way to hedge your overall portfolio, unless you think cct can go back below your short price. can or not is your feeling to decide. from what i see, all 4M after pullback will rebound, and still stay at the same level unmove.
bro your money your call, decision solely on you
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Bro,
Cut... Cut... Cut... Cut loss. cut hair, cut throat, cut.... cut... cut...
Hahaha... Just joking only.
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I forgot to add one thing.. Cut and go... Well... I believe we have brother that cut and go and at end of month that loss accumulated to be quite substantial... I personally do not believe in cut simply to cut at the first sign of trouble... Like that very shiong for the wallet... There is a hard balance to maintain loon or to cut... Excessive cutting will slowly bleed u out... Cut too late will create a one time mini bomb... So not easy Is the bottom line...
Marko1975 ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 21:15) Posted:
Throughout 3 years trend.. Only I can say SGX could be the only SCS.... Next counter which can satisfy SCS could be Wilmar..... These 2 have very defined range bound with 90+% of time within that range.. Others I believe are more normal trading (for only STI linked counters)..... I have my own plan for my trapped funds.. Guess need to trigger my funds to rescue them only or with minimal loss... See how..
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 12:36) Posted:
Bro marko, some stock can range bound within a tight range for months or for years. So someone go claim that this stock is SCS or whatever.
but we don know when this stock will become defiance and break out to another level. We cant say that after a stock break out to another level, then it is SCS1, SCS2, SCS3 and infinite.....ask yourself, if so many SCS, is this really sure come stock or bullshit?
just like bank, falling from 30 to now 25, 30-28 is SCS, 28-26 is SCS1, 26-24 is SCS2
or when they go up, 16-18,18-20,20-22,22-24,24-26,26-28, 28-30, SCS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
bro, make sense or not with so many SCS? clearly above example is not SCS, if someone believe this SCS theory and loon, he is definitely will lost 100% of his capital if he trade 3x.
for us as trader, either doing range trading, momentum trading and so on. if we buy at lower price of the range, we are relatively safe, but if situation turn against us, and the counters break the range and momentum still there, the only choice is to cut loss first.
again, i don short sell, short sell may only work when we are damn sure the market will keep crashing in weeks or months ahead. else don short at normal situation like now. whenever you do both long and short, your trading plan can be upside down, when you are suppose to long and you go and sell and likewise. Clear example is those that change from long to short capitaland, so now what is the outcome? i think they have already cut loss capitaland, they just never inform nia.
anyway, i suggest you cut loss certain counter whenever they pullback quite sharp like cct, or can reverse positon to long it, this is also a way to hedge your overall portfolio, unless you think cct can go back below your short price. can or not is your feeling to decide. from what i see, all 4M after pullback will rebound, and still stay at the same level unmove.
bro your money your call, decision solely on you
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Throughout 3 years trend.. Only I can say SGX could be the only SCS.... Next counter which can satisfy SCS could be Wilmar..... These 2 have very defined range bound with 90+% of time within that range.. Others I believe are more normal trading (for only STI linked counters)..... I have my own plan for my trapped funds.. Guess need to trigger my funds to rescue them only or with minimal loss... See how..
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 12:36) Posted:
Bro marko, some stock can range bound within a tight range for months or for years. So someone go claim that this stock is SCS or whatever.
but we don know when this stock will become defiance and break out to another level. We cant say that after a stock break out to another level, then it is SCS1, SCS2, SCS3 and infinite.....ask yourself, if so many SCS, is this really sure come stock or bullshit?
just like bank, falling from 30 to now 25, 30-28 is SCS, 28-26 is SCS1, 26-24 is SCS2
or when they go up, 16-18,18-20,20-22,22-24,24-26,26-28, 28-30, SCS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
bro, make sense or not with so many SCS? clearly above example is not SCS, if someone believe this SCS theory and loon, he is definitely will lost 100% of his capital if he trade 3x.
for us as trader, either doing range trading, momentum trading and so on. if we buy at lower price of the range, we are relatively safe, but if situation turn against us, and the counters break the range and momentum still there, the only choice is to cut loss first.
again, i don short sell, short sell may only work when we are damn sure the market will keep crashing in weeks or months ahead. else don short at normal situation like now. whenever you do both long and short, your trading plan can be upside down, when you are suppose to long and you go and sell and likewise. Clear example is those that change from long to short capitaland, so now what is the outcome? i think they have already cut loss capitaland, they just never inform nia.
anyway, i suggest you cut loss certain counter whenever they pullback quite sharp like cct, or can reverse positon to long it, this is also a way to hedge your overall portfolio, unless you think cct can go back below your short price. can or not is your feeling to decide. from what i see, all 4M after pullback will rebound, and still stay at the same level unmove.
bro your money your call, decision solely on you
Marko1975 ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 12:07) Posted:
| FYI.. I am not over trading.. Just dun want to transfer my original capital fund from bank.. As I only kept the profits inside ig acct... I had withdrawn almost all my pervious profits... So what I am trading is with 80% of previous profits and 20% original capital.... Cut all now and I lost about 20% of my previous accumulated profits...... But just want to point Reits should not be treated as SCS as they have regular quarterly dividend which give it a limited time frame to move and considered less risk due to the heavily assets back evaluation... So 4M or any Reits should not be SCS.. |
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congrats to your new thread!
looking forward to the sharing, learning & seeing more view points & perspectives!
bro. Hope this is your second home lo, first home still tfa, whenever you have questions or something to share, do drop by here. Welcome bro 168
money168 ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 17:49) Posted:
Eh... I accidentally found this new home of Bro Shangli.. Congrats! And thanks for your sharings.
So many familiar bros and siss here too! 
Now I will also bookmark this thread. |
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Eh... I accidentally found this new home of Bro Shangli.. Congrats! And thanks for your sharings.
So many familiar bros and siss here too!
Now I will also bookmark this thread.
Noted. Thanks Bro.
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:39) Posted:
bro i think you short at 2.52...if sam goes 2.52/2.53 can cover liao or change to long again. not so possible it will dip below 2.50
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:37) Posted:
| sorry typo...good to collect 2.53 level, not 2.4 |
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i rarely trade, whenever i go in long, price immediately drop. then take days to recover, overall not making money i should says. need to go pray whatever god to improve my luck
boiboi ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:52) Posted:
Last mth Feb was horrible, I lost alot coz I cut my shorts on capland and STE. This month March is a recovery to recoup my losses. So far I recover abt 20% of my losses. Hope the market will drop more so that we can pick up durians. 🙂
How abt u Uncle Shangli?
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:30) Posted:
| bro boi...how is your march trades, ho say or no |
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Last mth Feb was horrible, I lost alot coz I cut my shorts on capland and STE. This month March is a recovery to recoup my losses. So far I recover abt 20% of my losses. Hope the market will drop more so that we can pick up durians. 🙂
How abt u Uncle Shangli?
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:30) Posted:
bro boi...how is your march trades, ho say or not
boiboi ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:18) Posted:
| Wow congrats uncle Shangli for your new thread! I'm waiting for kepcorp & sembcorp to drop abit more before Longing. |
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can go in small small to ride the excitement and thrill of this stock lo, with a mindset either win big or loss some. have a mindset prepare to loss then is better, then feel no pain
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:45) Posted:
can...but with strict discipline, if turn against you 1.5-2.0 cents must cut, if stock go down then don sell first, hope it plunge ma. but this is gambling stock
Maxgrow68 ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:41) Posted:
Hong Fok overbought!!
Can ccb |
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can...but with strict discipline, if turn against you 1.5-2.0 cents must cut, if stock go down then don sell first, hope it plunge ma. but this is gambling stock
Maxgrow68 ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 16:41) Posted:
Hong Fok overbought!!
Can ccb?
shangli ( Date: 20-Mar-2019 15:58) Posted:
| Taxi up is because of one funds accumulate almost 44 million shares, guess they are still accumulating till now |
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