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famouspinky ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 16:19) Posted:

Y=yes

earlybird14 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 16:18) Posted:

Ask market buyers and sellers😁 😁 😁

I only know month upper bollinger is 9.64, so called resistance.

Bull bear war with level between 9.42-9.65 range bounce

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Ask market buyers and sellers😁 😁 😁

I only know month upper bollinger is 9.64, so called resistance.

Bull bear war with level between 9.42-9.65 range bounce.

famouspinky ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 16:14) Posted:

Y

earlybird14 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 15:55) Posted:

9.6, still cannot cross the range bounce

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Traders in market very smart de. They will study Manulife cash flow position and determine if the dividend payout is sustainable or not, if there are potential of cutting they will bring the REITs price down.

So Manulife in next 3 years will be like hph trust last 3 years. Unless they buy property continually to boost the operation income for dividend, if they just base on present property portfolio, no worth to buy and hold since price is fully appreciated by market, cannot go up further but with risk of getting down if their rental fee dropping in the future.

Hph trust I already written why we should buy hph trust. I am biased for sure since I like hph trust among all trust in sgx now.

earlybird14 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 16:06) Posted:

Which REITs or trust listed in sgx never fall but up within 2 years?

Trust is dividend. Manulife 4.2%, hph trust 6.7%.

Payout ratio. Hph trust 100% of eps. Manulife without tax, net profit is 21mio and pay 22mio. This is without tax, with tax net profit may be 18mio, so payout ratio is 110-120%.(don't count property assets gain because buy trust for dividend, dividend is cash generation through operation or rental fee, no cash no dividend).

So of course hph trust win Manulife Reit 2 street.

goldvision ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 15:51) Posted:

EB & TT, do u think Manulife US REIT or HPH Trust is better?

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Which REITs or trust listed in sgx never fall but up within 2 years?

Trust is dividend. Manulife 4.2%, hph trust 6.7%.

Payout ratio. Hph trust 100% of eps. Manulife without tax, net profit is 21mio and pay 22mio. This is without tax, with tax net profit may be 18mio, so payout ratio is 110-120%.(don't count property assets gain because buy trust for dividend, dividend is cash generation through operation or rental fee, no cash no dividend).

So of course hph trust win Manulife Reit 2 street.

goldvision ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 15:51) Posted:

EB & TT, do u think Manulife US REIT or HPH Trust is better?

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9.6, still cannot cross the range bounce

davidoch ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 13:50) Posted:

No, 5 digit only, wish me good luck...Painful process go in to the wrong price

earlybird14 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 13:47) Posted:

seem like you hold more than 6digit for Ocbc.

Still at a range 9.42-9.65. Hope it break 9.65

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No really. They were betting the offshore vessel boom by purchasing those vessels with fixed chartered rate contract from Ezra by expecting Ezra can pay them full charter rate at the same time to expect the vessel value can be appreciated. Worst come to worst take compensation and charter the vessel to other party

千算万算 never expect the market so bad till Ezra got no money to pay them and cannot find anyone to charter the vessel, so now they only can turn their gun on Ezra and push all false to Ezra and would like to claim back all the money 190mio? How many same type of vessel can be purchased from open market? At least 2.

So even though gov want to keep Ezra and Swiber afloat, they also must wait till these creditors who still leaving in the heaven go to hell first and buy from them at cheap price. Otherwise just ask 3 banks to consolidate the bad debt they have from Swiber and Ezra, then winding up both company assets and set up a new one with the assets from both company.

ahhuat08 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 15:27) Posted:

Y keep bringing pple to hell, thats not very nice you know.

When they leased the vessel from Ezra, they did not have a crystal ball that could possibly foretell that Lion King will be in deep sheet as he is now.

And why should our beloved G bail out such reckless entrepreneurs when they are responsible for their own downfall.

earlybird14 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 12:39) Posted:

Gov shall keep 1 offshore company to survive, may be Swiber or Ezra, let both file JM first and bring all creditors to hell, like the icbc, she should take her own risk by purchasing the vessel from Ezra, now come to claim 192mio from a company going to bankrupt and think they should hold zero risk in this downturn when they purchased the vessel?

So bring all of them to hell, then buy back all those assets at cheap price and reform the offshore company with better management.

Offshore is not dying completely just it take time to recover, however, we Singapore want to catch next book, we should not let this industry gone completely.

I believe gov know what to do, just hope they don't spend too much on them.

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seem like you hold more than 6digit for Ocbc.

Still at a range 9.42-9.65. Hope it break 9.65.

davidoch ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 13:37) Posted:

TT & Bird Bird thank you so much.

I am stll in OCBC, finally profit liao form paper loss 3K+

TechnicalTrader ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 13:33) Posted:

got some new contracts help to up up the px a bit...

Otherwise it is consolidating... resistance now 53...

but downside risk is high...

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TA for indofood and golden show accumulation at 51.5-52 and 37-37.5 and about ready to go up.

However can they go up in a cpo price at 2800?

Let's see if TA work well or fundamental work well.

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Gov shall keep 1 offshore company to survive, may be Swiber or Ezra, let both file JM first and bring all creditors to hell, like the icbc, she should take her own risk by purchasing the vessel from Ezra, now come to claim 192mio from a company going to bankrupt and think they should hold zero risk in this downturn when they purchased the vessel?

So bring all of them to hell, then buy back all those assets at cheap price and reform the offshore company with better management.

Offshore is not dying completely just it take time to recover, however, we Singapore want to catch next book, we should not let this industry gone completely.

I believe gov know what to do, just hope they don't spend too much on them.

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their revenue drop a lot last year, does the management has any plan to recover the revenue?

Pe 12, it is not undervalued if the revenue and profit fall continually.

TA hit resistance at 52-53

davidoch ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 12:09) Posted:

Bird Bird & TT

Your view on CSE gobal?

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Do they have other new coming project?

TechnicalTrader ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 11:36) Posted:

If SingHoldings ever drops to 55 again, can start accumulate more... 33 should be bottom...

Just my opinion.

Just4win ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 11:08) Posted:

Yes, Sing holdings is under valued.

But what is Medtecs got to do with the property news ? Can enlighten pls?

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😱 😱 😱 but what does this going to hurt a 1.2 cents company?

Ezra management come and take my last bone, 1.2cents. Then go to hell together😁 😁 😁

laksaman57 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 11:40) Posted:

http://www.seatrade-maritime.com/news/asia/ezra-hit-by-194m-claim-by-china-s-icbc-financial-leasing.html

laksaman57 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 11:33) Posted:

Strike #3 http://www.seatrade-maritime.com/news/asia/ezra-hit-by-194m-claim-by-china-s-icbc-financial-leasing.html

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See how never say never. Nol sold with the promise of keeping staffs and office in Singapore.

Ezra gone mean offshore construction company gone and jobs will never be back and send a message to global, Singapore is no longer a offshore hub. Retrenchment in 2016 in this industry is terrible, gov know the impact to them is huge if manufacturing also move into recession in 1 day( they will especially semi con).

So better keep those big one to afloat.

TMW1986 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 10:20) Posted:

Govt will not save sinking ship. Like NOL etc. They are for profit. Ezra really need at least 500 million or more TOP up to tide through, even so maybe Ezra will lose more as oil is still below $60. No one in a right mind will save the company unless it can turn loss to profit within few years.

No news doesn't mean good news. Maybe many people waiting for chances to get out or to sell higher to cut losses. If suddenly all sell, share price will drop below 1 cents.

I think going below 1 cents soon. Wan sell faster sell. Don't wait till the last one to abandon ship cfm die one.

earlybird14 ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 10:03) Posted:

👍 👍 👍 die or win big.

Nothing wrong to do so. Who know may be our gov are waiting a bottom till those creditors also in hell and willing to settle debt at hell price. Then 伸出援手 .

U.S. Also like that mah. Lehman brother bankrupt, they saved city banks and American bank. Chrysler bankrupt, they saved GM and fords.

So, Swiber bankrupt, they saved Ezra? At least keep one afloat, otherwise, all down, the industry forever say bye bye to SINGAPORE

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👍 👍 👍 die or win big.

Nothing wrong to do so. Who know may be our gov are waiting a bottom till those creditors also in hell and willing to settle debt at hell price. Then 伸出援手 .

U.S. Also like that mah. Lehman brother bankrupt, they saved city banks and American bank. Chrysler bankrupt, they saved GM and fords.

So, Swiber bankrupt, they saved Ezra? At least keep one afloat, otherwise, all down, the industry forever say bye bye to SINGAPORE.

Zindarion ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 09:39) Posted:

Purely based on experience

CK will not let u cut lose if really end of the world for them
Hug together and die
Without any major warning.

Right now Ezra kept sending die die die news but it is still floating. Allow retailer cut.
Since when CK so nice to retailer?

I am betting on this.
Waiting for the magic 0.010 then see how it goes.
convertible bond, debt to equity convertible deal, and whatever idea they want

Fundamental chui
Chart Chui
Technical Analysis Chui
Nothing is good.
So there is a good chance my bet will lose but I am fine with this bet.

happyharvest ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 09:25) Posted:

Could you help me understand why you are willing to bet on Ezra revival despite some much negativity and bad reputation for this company? Is it based on technical, fundamental or purely gambling spirit or something else?

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Day upper bollinger come down at 40.5-41.

It imply a potential sideline between 38-41.

Be patient. This is a long term investment stock and a stock to avoid risk of correction for this bull run.

Why? 2015, China pmi below 50, hph still 1.7bil hkd profit.

When it want rocket, it will rocket with speculation. Relax and wait for it to happen.

seanpent ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 09:34) Posted:

any chance of a 41 USD or 58 SGD today ?

earlybird14 ( Date: 10-Mar-2017 15:56) Posted:

Got firm firm minimum 6.7% dividend( 100% earning payment, not the white elephant Asia pay TV 150-200% earning payment, even Ascendas REITs also 110% payment for 6.1% only max)

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Like that how u can say u are Technical trader?

http://www.investopedia.com/walkthrough/forex/beginner/level2/forex-vs-equities.aspx

Forex and indexes market are main Traders battle field.

Why because Traders biggest enemy is not the news or economic development( they can be ur best friend), but is the commission, interest rate charge on cfd and the gap of pips between buy and sell. This will drive the cost of each trade high. With principle of buy low sell high short high cover low with proper cut loss level, there are not level cannot be placed with an order.

I have to say you are new to be a professional Traders and at the same time you should not shut off your door so early since you should continue open your mind and build up skill further.

TechnicalTrader ( Date: 13-Mar-2017 08:20) Posted:

make sense

what i am doing is putting money into counters which are turning around...

Noble is one of them...

I consider myself as a low risk retailer.. buy with cash backup... no margin, no leverage. Forex is not my cup of tea.

earlybird14 ( Date: 12-Mar-2017 22:08) Posted:

Relax and see what happen since you haven't stepped into forex and currency market. but keep observing and build up the knowledge in this markets you will only benefit from it.

For somebody who only invest and not going to short selling market, after taking profit from a long term bull from stock market, they still have to find a place to park their money at even put in to the banks.

So bond and currency become another shore for them to move money into and wait for next bull to come. So selection currency to park the money is 1 of the skill that long term investors should know

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Nasdaq 100, touch day mid bollinger 5335 up till 5392 day upper bollinger, then come down touch 4hr 5365 up till 5385, now slowly come down, I expect to see 5310-5320 this week by touching day low Bollinger

Dow touch day mid bollinger 20778 up 20978 4hr upper midbollinger and come down, expect to see day low bollinger at around 20650 this week.

I may be wrong.

But TT our game of sell in May and go away started in March for changing day chart to sideline by touching mid bollinger, up touch day upper then down touch lower to turn the day chart uptrend to sideline first.

Next will be ding dong at sideline trend till confirm a day downtrend then attack week uptrend in April-may to achieve correction.

So 21170 and 5390 will be Dow and Nasdaq highest level.

I may be wrong dyodd

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Relax and see what happen since you haven't stepped into forex and currency market. but keep observing and build up the knowledge in this markets you will only benefit from it.

For somebody who only invest and not going to short selling market, after taking profit from a long term bull from stock market, they still have to find a place to park their money at even put in to the banks.

So bond and currency become another shore for them to move money into and wait for next bull to come. So selection currency to park the money is 1 of the skill that long term investors should know .

TechnicalTrader ( Date: 12-Mar-2017 12:08) Posted:

now think about it, you are right hor..

earlybird14 ( Date: 12-Mar-2017 10:03) Posted:

What can be changed for euro and yen further? Almost zero interest rate(U.S. Going to hike further) QE is going to evaluate again with high inflation now in Europe and economic in Europe is much better, what excuse for them to expand QE?

Is it so hard to guess next move? Through a logical way and look at chart formation, it is not difficult since chart formed by buy and sell activity, the level support at low for so long with some meaning on it, it is at bottom and funds are buying by thinking as what I think

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For Noble thread, who don't know EB? 😁 😁 😁 . Talking down noble from 1 dollars till 11 cents with nonsense(only losers who lose money till siao said so)😂 😂 😂

earlybird14 ( Date: 12-Mar-2017 22:00) Posted:

At first you don't need to reply me at all after saying a normal reply or comment as debate.

Everyone shall feel free to share what in their mind rather than saying other who is right or wrong or trying to treat any comment as debate and below those useless and non constructive post😂 😂 😂

FATABA ( Date: 12-Mar-2017 21:25) Posted:

This is why u ( sorry YOU ) hv no got so much of noise in Noble forum
Constructive input please....talk about wha is real ..." Will Wilmar record such profit in report? " ....then u are talking about what...
nothing can be discus if its to your OWN STORY> Pls be a gentlemen and talk what is truely reported
Are u ( pls put in writing ) saying ? " Wilmar 2016 financial are not true ?? ( Do u hv evident of buy below 13/ Sell at 20+///// or your personal numbers.
Sorry ...EB....with immediate effect I stop to reply to you .
Pls be very careful when u read his input....( never justify his input ...his own belief and story )
Good luck

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At first you don't need to reply me at all after saying a normal reply or comment as debate.

Everyone shall feel free to share what in their mind rather than saying other who is right or wrong or trying to treat any comment as debate and below those useless and non constructive post😂 😂 😂

FATABA ( Date: 12-Mar-2017 21:25) Posted:

This is why u ( sorry YOU ) hv no got so much of noise in Noble forum
Constructive input please....talk about wha is real ..." Will Wilmar record such profit in report? " ....then u are talking about what...
nothing can be discus if its to your OWN STORY> Pls be a gentlemen and talk what is truely reported
Are u ( pls put in writing ) saying ? " Wilmar 2016 financial are not true ?? ( Do u hv evident of buy below 13/ Sell at 20+///// or your personal numbers.
Sorry ...EB....with immediate effect I stop to reply to you .
Pls be very careful when u read his input....( never justify his input ...his own belief and story )
Good luck

earlybird14 ( Date: 12-Mar-2017 18:51) Posted:

6million ton worth 2.3billion dollar sugar at below 13 dollars, sold at 20plus. How much they earn? 1bil.

Will Wilmar record such profit in report? I don't think so since they buy back 512mio at around 18-19.

This is just part of their trading, they will just hide and keep it on their balance sheet to sustain future potential loss on other trading.

But from here we can know, Wilmar has a group of good Traders. This is not the first time Wilmar Traders prove their timely buying right price at right strategy. Many years ago, their Traders also assist the company went through a tough soy oil market which the soybean crush margin were very below the profit level margin which mean every Tons they crush they would lose money. However again, Wilmar traders timely buying soybean at right price make them not making huge loss when competitors in China did.

So just believe Wilmar management and their team, they are experienced Traders and know clearly how soft commodity market work