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Can sell 1 shares right? As in no need to sell in 1000shares per lot kind. Anyway good counter for keeping. Office demand is rising.

newcoming ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 01:18) Posted:

received some quantity from the dividend in specie distributed by Keppel Corp.

but does not match the lot size 1000unit.

How to let go?

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Sorry for spamming, just in case anymore misunderstanding, I should clarify:

I don't preach using my style cos I got no style. I use fundamental style only.

Fundamental might not get you the biggest gain but is the most reliable style. Basically you pick a counter as if you are running the business yourselve. Profitable business model=> Confirm price will go up no matter what other say. Non profitable business=> matter of time it will fall no matter how high it goes, cos build on empty boxes only.

The same is not true for Technical analysis. A counter can be loss making, yet whenever price line cross 200MA, people get bullish!!! Whenever price line fall below MA, people get bearish no matter how strong the company is (e.g. Keppel corp). Nevertheless there are really good chartists too but those are exception cases.

Nothing to say about speculation=> as good as betting in Casino=> > > zero sum game. Your gain come from other's losses. FA=> > > Your gain come from business growth, not from others.

Thanks, will be back here in 2 years time to check on the price.

Rosesyrup ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 00:35) Posted:

Look beyond current trend and determine the fundamental reason that caused the price movement, that is what I really want to emphasize all along. Nothing else, I don't enjoy rubbing salt in people wound cause I do make losses too.

Small retail investor stick to fundamental and be safe.

Big sharks chart the graph and so afford to speculate.

Know your weight and play your role. Good example of people who abandoned fundamental and suffered=>

Skyone, biggest killer. Up till now still got people believe it will rise again, without knowing how it fall in the first place. From what I see, the original shortist has covered when it rebounced and run off already, this stock is a goner. Got people still attacked me for sprounting rubbish =.=
Golden Agri=> Rapid falling profit, CPO price held up by speculating Haiyan's damages. Yet people expect the rally to be sustainable. As rationale set in, people start to realise that Indonesia and Malaysia are the two big players not philippine- Haiyan damage to CPO stock is minimal. Golden Agri start trending down already. Obvious case of BBs trying to make use Haiyan as an excuse to push up the price. Again people here think that I shorted GAR and tried to create fear =.=.
Yoma=> From 90cents to 70+cents, still got people think will return to $1....People don't know what they are betting on. Everything and every success in Myanmar hing on the decision of one person=> the current military president. Today he happy, he open up. Tomorrow he unhappy....etc.

I know this is Yongnam forum and I did not post these here to show anything. I just want to emphasize the point FUNDAMENTAL!!! Cos wiseguy don't get it, he still think I talk down his stock. And he seeks 'revenge' on me in other threads =.=. Obviously, I am not perfect, my fundamental style does get me stuck in some counters too=> > e.g.

Olam=> I inside 1 year already and I still holding cos I examined MW's report and find its evidence unconvincing. Only matter of time, Olam prove to be clear.
IPCO=> Longed 3.3cents, now 2 cents only. Reason for falling is Blumont incident. I still hold cos, fundamental says TP 6cents ++ without Blumont.

Nothing much, just hope people follow fundamental or at least consider fundamental in investing. Everyone got own style, but only a few style works. Otherwise everyone become WBuffet already.

Wiseguy hope you are wise enough to get my point. Stop pestering me> > > I don't decide your market price, I merely forecast by observing fundamental. DISTURBING ME OR MAKING PERSONAL ATTACK WON" T BOOST YOUR SHARE PRICE!!!

Thanks

Rosesyrup ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 00:08) Posted:

No need! You see can already! You PM me when it manage to pass 30cents, I come back and post congrat here.

I am no longer vested already and not interested. Next time I want to SEE Yongnam, will be in 2 years time not now. I only come back and post cos wiseguy keep disturbing me.

Anyway for those who stucked, hold and wait. As industry leader, high chance will not bankrupt. The only problem is with industry restructuring, once it is done all construction counter will recover. Main risk lies in whether Yongnam can keep its leadership position under the new game rules.

As the restructing process goes on you can expect this counter to keep low. Marina one contract won't help the company to thrive, though it does provide some assurance in profit to stay afloat.

One chance for this firm to thrive in next 2-3years=>

Remember gov talks about underground living space? If Yongnam got that kind of contract theYES 40cents is guranteed. In fact I would buy at 60cents. But up till now underground living space remain a concept, and it is really expensive to carry out.

Thus best strategy for investors=> HOLD AND WAIT. Be patient- real investors have no problem waiting for as long as 5 years.So long as you think the fundamental is right, don't fear just hold. Ignore the trend, ignore the market.

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Look beyond current trend and determine the fundamental reason that caused the price movement, that is what I really want to emphasize all along. Nothing else, I don't enjoy rubbing salt in people wound cause I do make losses too.

Small retail investor stick to fundamental and be safe.

Big sharks chart the graph and so afford to speculate.

Know your weight and play your role. Good example of people who abandoned fundamental and suffered=>

Skyone, biggest killer. Up till now still got people believe it will rise again, without knowing how it fall in the first place. From what I see, the original shortist has covered when it rebounced and run off already, this stock is a goner. Got people still attacked me for sprounting rubbish =.=
Golden Agri=> Rapid falling profit, CPO price held up by speculating Haiyan's damages. Yet people expect the rally to be sustainable. As rationale set in, people start to realise that Indonesia and Malaysia are the two big players not philippine- Haiyan damage to CPO stock is minimal. Golden Agri start trending down already. Obvious case of BBs trying to make use Haiyan as an excuse to push up the price. Again people here think that I shorted GAR and tried to create fear =.=.
Yoma=> From 90cents to 70+cents, still got people think will return to $1....People don't know what they are betting on. Everything and every success in Myanmar hing on the decision of one person=> the current military president. Today he happy, he open up. Tomorrow he unhappy....etc.

I know this is Yongnam forum and I did not post these here to show anything. I just want to emphasize the point FUNDAMENTAL!!! Cos wiseguy don't get it, he still think I talk down his stock. And he seeks 'revenge' on me in other threads =.=. Obviously, I am not perfect, my fundamental style does get me stuck in some counters too=> > e.g.

Olam=> I inside 1 year already and I still holding cos I examined MW's report and find its evidence unconvincing. Only matter of time, Olam prove to be clear.
IPCO=> Longed 3.3cents, now 2 cents only. Reason for falling is Blumont incident. I still hold cos, fundamental says TP 6cents ++ without Blumont.

Nothing much, just hope people follow fundamental or at least consider fundamental in investing. Everyone got own style, but only a few style works. Otherwise everyone become WBuffet already.

Wiseguy hope you are wise enough to get my point. Stop pestering me> > > I don't decide your market price, I merely forecast by observing fundamental. DISTURBING ME OR MAKING PERSONAL ATTACK WON" T BOOST YOUR SHARE PRICE!!!

Thanks

Rosesyrup ( Date: 28-Nov-2013 00:08) Posted:

No need! You see can already! You PM me when it manage to pass 30cents, I come back and post congrat here.

I am no longer vested already and not interested. Next time I want to SEE Yongnam, will be in 2 years time not now. I only come back and post cos wiseguy keep disturbing me.

Anyway for those who stucked, hold and wait. As industry leader, high chance will not bankrupt. The only problem is with industry restructuring, once it is done all construction counter will recover. Main risk lies in whether Yongnam can keep its leadership position under the new game rules.

As the restructing process goes on you can expect this counter to keep low. Marina one contract won't help the company to thrive, though it does provide some assurance in profit to stay afloat.

One chance for this firm to thrive in next 2-3years=>

Remember gov talks about underground living space? If Yongnam got that kind of contract theYES 40cents is guranteed. In fact I would buy at 60cents. But up till now underground living space remain a concept, and it is really expensive to carry out.

Thus best strategy for investors=> HOLD AND WAIT. Be patient- real investors have no problem waiting for as long as 5 years.So long as you think the fundamental is right, don't fear just hold. Ignore the trend, ignore the market.

upnowhere ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:40) Posted:

I don't believe it will reach 20cts. This counter got strong support point this above 23 to 24cts.

Dont believe me!!! let wait and see.

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No need! You see can already! You PM me when it manage to pass 30cents, I come back and post congrat here.

I am no longer vested already and not interested. Next time I want to SEE Yongnam, will be in 2 years time not now. I only come back and post cos wiseguy keep disturbing me.

Anyway for those who stucked, hold and wait. As industry leader, high chance will not bankrupt. The only problem is with industry restructuring, once it is done all construction counter will recover. Main risk lies in whether Yongnam can keep its leadership position under the new game rules.

As the restructing process goes on you can expect this counter to keep low. Marina one contract won't help the company to thrive, though it does provide some assurance in profit to stay afloat.

One chance for this firm to thrive in next 2-3years=>

Remember gov talks about underground living space? If Yongnam got that kind of contract theYES 40cents is guranteed. In fact I would buy at 60cents. But up till now underground living space remain a concept, and it is really expensive to carry out.

Thus best strategy for investors=> HOLD AND WAIT. Be patient- real investors have no problem waiting for as long as 5 years.So long as you think the fundamental is right, don't fear just hold. Ignore the trend, ignore the market.

upnowhere ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:40) Posted:

I don't believe it will reach 20cts. This counter got strong support point this above 23 to 24cts.

Dont believe me!!! let wait and see.

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Indeed they " only get lucky" once in a while. But so far they are 100% spot on this and you 0% leh. How ah?

Believe me, 2 days later your " wiseguy" account will go to sleep mode again cos price will either hang here or go down again.

But nevermind, you got 5-6 share junction accounts to play around and keep you entertained.

Don't know your 23cents BE point is true or not. But I strongly and truly believe 23 won't hold. In fact I am now looking at 20cents as support point.

wiseguy1269 ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 20:23) Posted:

Never for once believe such houses which flip-flop, especially DBS and CIMB. For all you know, they may have short positions in the counter.

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Lol why you come here to spam them every night?

Just leave your " prediction" and if it prove to be accrucate already good enough.

In fact, no need to prove, if really accurate, you will become wealthy quickly.

MetalTrader ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 23:09) Posted:

Battle of Prediction (Wilmar)
19 Nov Afternoon- Market was at $3.63. I boldy predicted Wilmar will fall below $3.63, from this speculative price, in which shareholders only bought at $3, and anything above $3.15 is a speculative amount. Market closed at $3.62. [I warned that market momentum moving well far $3, and into speculative price of $3.15. The market is bound to suffer a major drop in weeks to come despite naive people insisted on uptrend]
20 Nov- Market fall to $3.52. (The first fall and significant losses of $0.11)
On 20 Nov closing: I predicted that there will be several downfalls beneath $3.52. The downfall will continue with a bigger drop awaiting.
21 Nov- Market fall to $3.48
22 Nov- Market rises to $3.55
23 & 24 Nov- I foresee several tornadoes below the " current speculated price" , & dark clouds awaiting.
The downtrend is gathering significant speculated buyers, before it move downwards significantly.
25 Nov- Market closed $3.59 I saw a very high risk at current level.
26 Nov- Market closed $3.58 (a point lower)
27 Nov- Market closed $3.55 (3 point lower)

Wilmar Financial Data
According to Bloomberg, Current Price/Book 1.2476
26 Sep- Term Loan increased from US1.5 Billion to US2.065 Billion + Interests
11 Jul- Term Loan of US1.5 Billion

(Within 2 months - Debts increased another US 565 Millions + Interests!!!)

What do you think Wilmar is worth?

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guoyanyunyan ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 16:08) Posted:

Yongnam - Maintain Fully Valued with TP:S$0.240, says DBS Vickers

Secured $168 million contract for M& S Marine One

Yongnam secured $168 million worth of structural steel subcontract works for M& S Marina One project, which is a mixed development at Marina South. This lifts order book to $397 million and is expected to complete in 1Q16. The bulk of the revenue will therefore be recognised in FY14F and FY15F. Although significant, this project win is within expectation for FY14F.

We continue to be negative on projects going forward and expect lacklustre growth for FY14F. We believe Yongnam is likely to see slower order book drawdown for FY14F due to a lack of project wins earlier this year as well as declining margins. Hence, no change in our recommendation to maintain Fully Valued.

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=.=

No ofense, I really find your post baffling.....

In previous postings, you said this counter won't move up (TKK thingy) and insulted the holders (aka investors) as low intelligent animals waiting for UFO.

Alright fine maybe this counter is really bad, perhaps we really made the wrong decision holding it.

But after it fell just by 2 pips (or maybe 3pips), you started to talk about " how it will rise but don't know when" .

Can I therefore assume that you got on board already?

moneycow ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 14:11) Posted:

I guess, if it cannot hold at 1.9 by day day or near - it will hit 1.8. Thats the lowest it would touch. And after that its all the way up. BUT just don't know when and what pattern it will move up. BUT if its like the last time for no reason move more than 10 steps in a day - it won't sustain.

IPCO perhaps hold this record being a one day hero. Obviously its played.

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Oh yes, come on lets fly

Love you SIA :)

ascend88 ( Date: 27-Nov-2013 10:14) Posted:

after 1 day of refilling....is it time to .......i believe i can fly....

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You coming aboard too?

moneycow ( Date: 26-Nov-2013 12:36) Posted:

when BID is 2.

Likely some holders will cut at 1.9 and it falls.

Next would be that magic number that cannot fall one and unlikely to do so at 1.8.

ONLY way would be UP . BUT will take a long time break before it does.

Better not contra. or get stuck and hold and wait long long seriously.

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Eh, bodoh.

Me leh Me leh? I understand well or not?

wanglausern ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 22:51) Posted:

You my friend are one of the very few here who is so sensible, impartial and understands the mechanics of the market so very well.

All the best to all your future trades.

xtraderx ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 22:30) Posted:

I don't trade full time but I also lost some unrealised profits due to this crash, its not fair to say that I won't understand. You shouldn't lose everything overnight if you know how to manage risk, I actually bought and sold blumont and asiasons many times but I only did it intraday, I knew it was too risky to carry it overnight. This is basic risk management.

There is no such thing as a natural market... markets are all man made, the whole ramp up was done by people who borrowed a lot of money to corner these stocks. These big fishes were swallowed by a fish thats bigger than them... a shark. Thats how the game works...

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Lol I see already Vincente, you are one who created multiple account followed my post and thumb down me. I feel flattered.

Just want to let you know, I feel good insulting hypocrite like you :).

Please continue to thumbs down me, nevermind about me.

All your accounts that I have identified so far:

Vincente,
Hugolee,
Terminator4ever
gfmkim

vincente ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 09:01) Posted:

Yo....not all malaysians are bad amd not all singaporeans are good.

Confirm Rose syrop and metal trader are the same person.Notice they like to troll/spam their postings either with the same message or pictures.

trading4living ( Date: 24-Nov-2013 20:37) Posted:

Hey bro. I am malaysian too. I bought wilmar at around sgd 3.15.

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Hugo, catching falling knives?

HugoLee ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 22:25) Posted:

Yongnam Holdings said on Monday that it had secured a record $168 million subcontract through its wholly owned subsidiary, Yongnam Engineering & Construction Pte Ltd. Yongnam will fabricate and construct a record of almost 30,000 tonnes of structural steelwork for Marina One, a mixed-use development located at Marina South, Singapore's new Central Business District.

:-)

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Wow big words,

I thought you are too smart to differentiate LG from Blumont already huh?

So Alex pull out Blumont sure falls??? Worst come to worst change shareholders and CEO. But does that mean company will collaspe? Maybe we are all too 'dumb' to comprehend that.

You are totally on a whole new level of smartness.

Lol Bodoh, nice word to use on your postings.

:)

wanglausern ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 21:43) Posted:

Eh Bodoh, Neo is chairman of Blumont and has nothing to do with LG, but if Blumont falls the other two will also mati.

Rosesyrup ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 19:20) Posted:

Alex in liongold? Lol. Owne

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Once again unto the breach.

terencee ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 20:25) Posted:

Bro, pls quit taking drugs. You already lost yourself.

This is liongold. Not blumont. Thank you very much.

wanglausern ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 19:12) Posted:

You and TPG will see chow-ang-moh Alex chicken out from buying up Neo's stake this Dec 6th and then we see who gets the last luff

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Lol

Since when did I claim to own any other account? You want to bring out all your other nicks? wiseguy, terminator4ever....etc

What foreign trash? Serve NS big deal? You are not the only guy here who served NS, don't troll here please. The fact that you push blame to foreigners just shown your lack of understand for local economic...don't know how you do your analysis. No wonder you invested in Yongnam.

Indeed your comment without basis, even financial analysis, is worth 2 cents only.

vincente ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 09:01) Posted:

Yo....not all malaysians are bad amd not all singaporeans are good.

Confirm Rose syrop and metal trader are the same person.Notice they like to troll/spam their postings either with the same message or pictures.

trading4living ( Date: 24-Nov-2013 20:37) Posted:

Hey bro. I am malaysian too. I bought wilmar at around sgd 3.15.

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Alex in liongold? Lol. Owned

wanglausern ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 19:12) Posted:

You and TPG will see chow-ang-moh Alex chicken out from buying up Neo's stake this Dec 6th and then we see who gets the last luff.

Rosesyrup ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 18:46) Posted:

Nice one bro.

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Nice one bro.

TPG_yren ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 18:41) Posted:

Next time, please don't start any debate. At least for me, I'm totally not interested. No matter how you all argue, " in general" , " assume" , " must be" , whatever la. It's not going to affect the case. In fact, it's not even your case to begin with. You want to sue GS, go ahead. You want to rub salt, cut yourself and rub it deep. Don't be an ass.

You are like coming into the a soccer club and tell the fans your club sucks because in general...etc etc

We welcome warnings, but if you are just looking for trouble, please go away! Thanks!

wanglausern ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 18:30) Posted:

What rubbish!

I started my debate with the phrase " in general" and maybe you're not intelligent enough to comprehend.

Idiot like you should be seen and not heard at all!

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Yawn....too smart to read news?

wanglausern ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 18:30) Posted:

What rubbish!

I started my debate with the phrase " in general" and maybe you're not intelligent enough to comprehend.

Idiot like you should be seen and not heard at all!

Rosesyrup ( Date: 25-Nov-2013 17:40) Posted:

No need to argue with him....

He deliberate hide some truth to present a misleading view which goes in his favor.

Time will tell.

In fact no need time, google can also tell who is the liar:

No unfair handling???? http://nypost.com/2011/06/09/goldman-fined-millions-for-dishonest-and-unethical-practices/

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sia lets fly. woooo

Rosesyrup ( Date: 13-Oct-2013 17:36) Posted:

MY previous TP of $9.60 was breached just 1 month after I posted it here. (you can verify by scrolling through the posting history on SIA forum.)

Reiterate current TP: $11.20. Pay less attention to the negative news in the industry. India present a big opportunity plus TATA the white knight. SIA is SAVED for sure. Nevertheless, it still take some times for SIA to reap the intangible benefit by working with TATA.