Lol,no lah. Ah Kong will never allow this to happen
vivivava ( Date: 06-Mar-2015 09:48) Posted:
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think this was shared by someone earlier
http://www.fool.sg/2015/02/10/at-what-price-would-benjamin-graham-buy-singapore-airlines-ltd/
The current share price is over S$12. If earnings were to remain fairly constant, Singapore airlines would need to see its share price fall by roughly 70% to just under S$3.50 a share to possess an earnings yield of 5%.
To fall in line with the market average earnings yield of around 7%, the airline&rsquo s price would have to fall by as much as 80% to a share price of S$2.40.
Lol,trying second round shorting. First round lost heavily and Sun won.Lol
vivivava ( Date: 06-Mar-2015 09:17) Posted:
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9.86 here it comes
very smart !!
gavinl ( Date: 06-Mar-2015 08:55) Posted:
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https://sg.news.yahoo.com/why-singapore-airlines-had-honour-074223731.html
 
This one will cost them AUD 1mil....a drop in the ocean??
Join me to short SQ? Had shorted some since $12.20 Lol
sun233 ( Date: 05-Mar-2015 20:36) Posted:
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Think Chinese tourists seldom fly SIA.   But numbers been down and SIA will surely be affected
Technically, SIA dipped below its 50MA now and hope it will reach its fairvalue of 9.86 (Goldman Sach) soon 
VIVIVAVA................SIA may be willing to wait but will shareholders wait patiently for their dwindling returns???   Its just too expensiveat current levels and not worth waiting for their 2% dividend
Agree with that statement, partly also because they will pay div later on in the second half and anything can happen from now till then. Better options right now elsewhere. Will numbers improve here on out considering no long holidays around the corner? i don' t think so. Also is it just me or were there fewer chinese tourists this   chinese new year as compared to last year. 
  Honestly i did not think it would have reached 12 bucks. I' m not vested.....yet. 
Singapore Airlines pax numbers down 2% to 1.5m in Jan-2015, load factor down 3 ppts to 77%Singapore Airlines  reports (16-Feb-2015) the following  traffic  highlights in Jan-2015:
- Passenger numbers: 1.5 million, -1.8% year-on-year
- Passenger load factor: 76.5%, -2.6 ppts
- Capacity (ASKs): -0.5%. [more &ndash original PR]
Singapore  Airlines:  &ldquo Demand was generally weaker due to the shift in the Chinese New Year holidays from January in 2014 to February in 2015. The competitive landscape continues to be competitive and challenging.  Singapore  Airlines will remain nimble to redeploy  capacity  to better match market demand and promotional activities will continue in relevant markets,&rdquo   Source: Company statement, 16-Feb-2015.
The legacy carrier looks for new niches
MAYUKO TANI, Nikkei staff writer
SINGAPORE --  Singapore Airlines, one of Asia' s top airlines in terms of market capitalization, faces multiple challenges. Budget airlines have crowded Asia' s skies, and pressure is mounting in the luxury class segment because of ambitious Middle Eastern airlines.
    Net profit for the July-September quarter slumped 43% from a year earlier, to 90.9 million Singapore dollars ($70 million). With marginal growth in revenue, lower fuel costs pushed up operating profit by 51%. The company' s bottom line was weak because of the faltering performance of affiliate budget carrier Tiger Airways Holdings (Tigerair), which logged a loss of S$182.3 million for the quarter.
      Southeast Asia has a glut of budget airlines. Due to the cutthroat competition, Tigerair has recorded losses for three fiscal years in a row. Its major rival, AirAsia of Malaysia, recorded a 54% drop in net profit in 2013.
      Tigerair this year had to shut down or sell off overseas ventures in the Philippines and Indonesia to curb its losses. And in October, the airline announced it is planning to sell its remaining 40% stake in its Australian operations for 1 Australian dollar ($0.86) to Virgin Australia. Since 2013, Virgin has owned 60% of Tigerair' s Australian operation.
      Facing an imminent need to rescue Tigerair' s remaining Singapore operations, its parent is stepping in. Singapore Airlines announced in October that it will convert its nonvoting Tigerair securities into shares to increase its stake in the budget carrier from 40% to 55%. The parent will also participate in Tigerair' s S$234 million rights issue, committing to invest up to $140 million. The top-tier carrier' s equity stake in Tigerair could be a maximum of 71%.
      " Tiger is an integral part of Singapore Airlines' portfolio," CEO Goh Choon Phong said in early November when announcing quarterly results. He stressed that Tigerair gives its parent room to grow in the budget airline space.
New rivals
Singapore Airlines' core business also faces headwinds. Emirates and Etihad Airways, both of the United Arab Emirates, and Qatar  Airways have established modern fleets, as well as luxurious facilities and services. Many business- and first-class passengers now prefer to fly with the Middle Eastern airlines. These carriers are boosting services on Asia-Europe routes, where Singapore Airlines has traditionally been strong, taking advantage of their locations.
      With the competition, demand for flights to and from Europe remains weak. Singapore Airlines' seat capacity utilization in October was down by 3.5% from a year earlier. The airline said in a statement that it may consider trimming capacity to fit demand.
      The airline is looking at other initiatives as well.
      Together with Tata Sons, the investment holding company of the Indian conglomerate Tata Group, Singapore Airlines is launching a new standard carrier based in New Delhi, called Vistara. Although the airline has had to push back its debut due to red tape in India, Singapore Airlines remains optimistic. " It is about going beyond the Singapore hub," Goh told reporters. " It is hard to argue against India as a high potential [market]."
      Singapore Airlines in November increased its investment in Virgin Australia Holdings to 22.8%. The two airlines have partnered on code-sharing flights and marketing since 2011. It intends to enhance the partnership to close the gap on Australian flag carrier Qantas. Singapore Airlines also announced a nonequity alliance with Air New Zealand in September. The two will start code-sharing flights in January 2015.
      " We are fortunate to be in a position [where] we have a strong balance sheet," Goh said. " We can use this strength to invest for the future."
      Early next year, Singapore Airlines will launch a premium economy class service, a step it has contemplated for years, for medium- and long-haul routes. The aim is to further differentiate itself from budget carriers by catering to passengers willing to pay more for better service. For business class and first class, it is spending $325 million upgrading the cabins in its new Boeing aircraft. It will offer some of the widest   seats in the industry.
      Despite the difficulties, investors continue to value the airline' s position in Asia. With lower oil prices pushing down fuel costs, the stock price has rebounded in the past month.
The lousy returns is guaranteed to last............ reading in between the lines
 
2015 is a key year for SIA as its new long-term strategy starts to bed down
While competition across both the budget and full-service sectors remains intense, market conditions in Southeast Asia are starting to improve. Lower fuel prices should also provide  a little  relief &ndash even with SIA mostly hedged. And it should be able to hedge ahead at lower prices.
2015 will be a key year for the SIA Group. The introduction of premium economy at the parent airline, with consequential capacity reduction, and introduction of 787s at Scoot are only two of several milestones. The SIA Group is also launching two new affiliate airlines in 2015 &ndash   Vistara, a full-service joint venture with  India&rsquo s Tata which commenced operations in Jan-2015 and  NokScoot, a long-haul LCC joint venture with  Thailand&rsquo s  Nok Air  which is planning to commence scheduled operations in May-2015.
These are all long-term plays aimed at diversifying SIA and unlocking new avenues of growth. Profits should gradually start to rise again.
But there will be new challenges to tackle and new projects such as Vistara and NokScoot will always incur losses during the initial phases. Fortunately SIA can afford to be patient.
 
SIA may be willing to wait but will shareholders wait patiently for their dwindling returns???   Its just too expensiveat current levels and not worth waiting for their 2% dividend
Yup. 
vivivava ( Date: 04-Mar-2015 08:54) Posted:
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TIGERAIR NOT OUT OF THE WOODS
http://www.aspireaviation.com/2015/02/17/tigerair-not-out-of-the-woods/
8th may nxt q result out?
Ride it up till before 8 May. Those who are holding........
The return of capital employed is pathetic since 2011
The yield and unit cost is below its breakeven since since Q3 13
Is that what the chart is telling us??
ytoh1688 ( Date: 03-Mar-2015 11:12) Posted:
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cash out first. SIA seem like cannot make it. Market is not more bullish on this industry.
PER (X)     &     Div yield (%) of most airlines
Delta                                 9.5x       0.89%
United Continental               6.1         0.22
Intl Consolidated airline Gp 12.0         1.71
Ryanair                             16.9         3.04
SIA                                   31.9         1.97
Cathay                               23.4         1.7
Qantas                             12.7           0.5
AirNZ                                 9.82           4.89
Airasia                               7.9             2.52
Easyjet                               13.2           3.37
Jap Airline                           8.72           2.61
Airfrance KLM                     16.7           0.29
ANA                                 27.3           1.25
JetBlue                             10.7           --
 
 
                                        PER                 Div Yield
Delta