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investshare Supreme	22-Mar-2019 10:14        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I Already said that not impair TS is highly questionable. investshare      ( Date: 06-Mar-2019 11:50) Posted: Agree that the management is very irresponsible. From the way they handle the account (didn?t impair TS in past few year), giving away dividend, and the way they handle the crisis now. Look at their response now, seem surprise by PUB action. Did they read the bid document before bidding or after winning it? KAMAL0883      ( Date: 06-Mar-2019 11:40) Posted: salut you !!! but good for Hyflux Management not retails investors cos the faliar Hyflux team now can say ---- see it' s not that we dun want to rescue the company, it s the Govt who blocked us
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zstro99 Member	08-Mar-2019 12:59        zstro99 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	It's either lose 34k votes or make the rest of the taxpayers unhappy...hence why would the government bail out Hyflux?? the deregulation of the power sector culminating in the Open Electricity Market exposed Hyflux?s power sector to the wild fluctuations of commodity prices..but the end consumer benefit..we are paying less for electricity...just too bad for Hyflux that the gyrations in oil prices have been more pronounced over the last few years, further exacerbating her problems ..
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investshare Supreme	07-Mar-2019 21:08        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	PUB just takeover, why need protect? simplesimon      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 20:53) Posted: Why Keppel went to bid for M1? It should bid for Hyflux to protect strategic company from falling to foreign hands!   Observers      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 14:42) Posted: Retail investors/security holders seem to blame the government for their predicament. From government' s perspective, I' d bet they must be feeling very malign. Not only did Hyflux cause PUB problems by not  running Tuaspring according to the contract and defaulting on terms, these stake holders seem to 恶 人 先 告 状 。 Ownself anyhow underbid (45cents) for the Tuaspring project and over-spec(to sell to grid) the power plant, sign up expensive gas with shell, then when problem comes, blame PUB (in charge of water not electricity) for causing electricity over-supply and Tuaspring to burn cash
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simplesimon Member	07-Mar-2019 20:53        simplesimon About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why Keppel went to bid for M1? It should bid for Hyflux to protect strategic company from falling to foreign hands!   Observers      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 14:42) Posted: Retail investors/security holders seem to blame the government for their predicament. From government' s perspective, I' d bet they must be feeling very malign. Not only did Hyflux cause PUB problems by not  running Tuaspring according to the contract and defaulting on terms, these stake holders seem to 恶 人 先 告 状 。 Ownself anyhow underbid (45cents) for the Tuaspring project and over-spec(to sell to grid) the power plant, sign up expensive gas with shell, then when problem comes, blame PUB (in charge of water not electricity) for causing electricity over-supply and Tuaspring to burn cash? angmohlin      ( Date: 06-Mar-2019 12:16) Posted: The whole BOD should responsible for the dilemma in Hyflux and pay for the damages to stakeholders.
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Observers Elite	07-Mar-2019 14:42        Observers About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Retail investors/security holders seem to blame the government for their predicament. From government' s perspective, I' d bet they must be feeling very malign. Not only did Hyflux cause PUB problems by not  running Tuaspring according to the contract and defaulting on terms, these stake holders seem to 恶 人 先 告 状 。 Ownself anyhow underbid (45cents) for the Tuaspring project and over-spec(to sell to grid) the power plant, sign up expensive gas with shell, then when problem comes, blame PUB (in charge of water not electricity) for causing electricity over-supply and Tuaspring to burn cash? angmohlin      ( Date: 06-Mar-2019 12:16) Posted: The whole BOD should responsible for the dilemma in Hyflux and pay for the damages to stakeholders.
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	07-Mar-2019 14:04        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	LOL your " if " can never happen already from a star blue chips to penny then to rubbish and " jumban " and eventually close shop Goldfinger      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 12:38) Posted: Hyflux if listed today would be whacked down to penny stock.
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Goldfinger Supreme	07-Mar-2019 12:38        Goldfinger About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hyflux if listed today would be whacked down to penny stock.
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kerier Veteran	07-Mar-2019 10:17        kerier About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yeah, if everyone is buying because temasek nibbled a bit here and there... jia lat liao.  Qanghoo      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 09:32) Posted: Jumbo also? kerier      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 08:16) Posted: Was Ezion a blue chip? If not, why Temasek buy
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Qanghoo Supreme	07-Mar-2019 09:32        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Jumbo also? kerier      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 08:16) Posted: Was Ezion a blue chip? If not, why Temasek buy? runaway      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 07:49) Posted: Was Hyflux a blue chip? If not, Why did our sovereign fund buy? Temasek Holdings was at one time invested in Hyflux through a unit that held a 4.76 per cent stake obtained via a placement in 2003. This fell to 0.89 per cent in 2005. https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/can-hyflux-get-it-right-this-time
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kerier Veteran	07-Mar-2019 08:16        kerier About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Was Ezion a blue chip? If not, why Temasek buy? runaway      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 07:49) Posted: Was Hyflux a blue chip? If not, Why did our sovereign fund buy? Temasek Holdings was at one time invested in Hyflux through a unit that held a 4.76 per cent stake obtained via a placement in 2003. This fell to 0.89 per cent in 2005. https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/can-hyflux-get-it-right-this-time
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runaway Senior	07-Mar-2019 08:04        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Blue chip is not  risk free. Lehman Brothers taught many a lesson.
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runaway Senior	07-Mar-2019 07:49        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Was Hyflux a blue chip? If not, Why did our sovereign fund buy? Temasek Holdings was at one time invested in Hyflux through a unit that held a 4.76 per cent stake obtained via a placement in 2003. This fell to 0.89 per cent in 2005. https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/can-hyflux-get-it-right-this-time
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investshare Supreme	07-Mar-2019 07:15        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	was Hyflux ever a blue chip? At least past few years the cash flow problem already very obvjois. Blue chip bond yield all very low. runaway      ( Date: 07-Mar-2019 06:43) Posted: Mamy follow the rich and successful or buy into blue chips,   thinking that it is safe. Warrent B can be wrong, but he can afford to lose a few or ten of million, can you? Hyflux was blue chip then, even our sovereign fund took a bite. Many bought the bonds because of the 6-8% interest, way above the CPF rates. Greed kills, always.
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runaway Senior	07-Mar-2019 06:43        runaway About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Mamy follow the rich and successful or buy into blue chips,   thinking that it is safe. Warrent B can be wrong, but he can afford to lose a few or ten of million, can you? Hyflux was blue chip then, even our sovereign fund took a bite. Many bought the bonds because of the 6-8% interest, way above the CPF rates. Greed kills, always.
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zstro99 Member	06-Mar-2019 21:15        zstro99 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Who were dumping Hyflux shares from 12 to 13 April 2018....?
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angmohlin Veteran	06-Mar-2019 12:16        angmohlin About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The whole BOD should responsible for the dilemma in Hyflux and pay for the damages to stakeholders.
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investshare Supreme	06-Mar-2019 11:50        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Agree that the management is very irresponsible. From the way they handle the account (didn?t impair TS in past few year), giving away dividend, and the way they handle the crisis now. Look at their response now, seem surprise by PUB action. Did they read the bid document before bidding or after winning it? KAMAL0883      ( Date: 06-Mar-2019 11:40) Posted: salut you !!! but good for Hyflux Management not retails investors cos the faliar Hyflux team now can say ---- see it' s not that we dun want to rescue the company, it s the Govt who blocked us. investshare      ( Date: 05-Mar-2019 20:42) Posted: Haha! See luckily the government know how to protect people money. If spent billion to bail out, country will bankrupt soon
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	06-Mar-2019 11:40        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	salut you !!! but good for Hyflux Management not retails investors cos the faliar Hyflux team now can say ---- see it' s not that we dun want to rescue the company, it s the Govt who blocked us. investshare      ( Date: 05-Mar-2019 20:42) Posted: Haha! See luckily the government know how to protect people money. If spent billion to bail out, country will bankrupt soon. investshare      ( Date: 23-Feb-2019 15:31) Posted: I am 101% sure that there is a clause that PUB can takeover the water plant at $1 if the operator not performing
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investshare Supreme	05-Mar-2019 20:42        investshare About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Haha! See luckily the government know how to protect people money. If spent billion to bail out, country will bankrupt soon. investshare      ( Date: 23-Feb-2019 15:31) Posted: I am 101% sure that there is a clause that PUB can takeover the water plant at $1 if the operator not performing. KAMAL0883      ( Date: 23-Feb-2019 14:13) Posted: don' t be so short sighted, hyflux is National water strategy not ordinary commercial company. don' t you see our neighbor always use water cut  threaten us ? to rescue National strategy company is to rescue the country and the peoples as well as rescue country reputation. p.s. Mahatier is waiting and hoping to see we fail and fall........    government spend money can still earn back and if country control by outsiders then everyone will suffer
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batambird Member	25-Feb-2019 22:37        batambird About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Infact buy back NOL also. batambird      ( Date: 25-Feb-2019 22:36) Posted: Noble is commodity also important. BW is beauty and thats also important. Ezra, swiber, midas all important. Why not bail out all at one go to make all happy ? kerier      ( Date: 25-Feb-2019 20:58) Posted: where do you think the government takes the money from? by cutting the ministers' pay? of course is from the pool of tax payers money and reserves... and we use that to rescue hyflux then how is that going to be replenished? magically? water is important but like i said without tuaspring, we won' t go thirsty. so stop bringing up water security, kepcorp or sembcorp can easily build more tuasprings.
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