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 Alert Admin 		Peter lim cannot let it fall below 9c, and in fact 12c in the longer term... else who will pay for thomson medical? 

trademaster      ( Date: 08-Oct-2018 13:27) Posted:

What if price drop below 9ct? Then stuck with warrant...high reward but high beta

BBBulll      ( Date: 08-Oct-2018 13:24) Posted:

Peter lim buying? Anyway definetly better to buy the warrants since the price will definetly be above 0.09 in the near term for the main share... easy 40% upside for warrants
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 Alert Admin 		What if price drop below 9ct? Then stuck with warrant...high reward but high beta

BBBulll      ( Date: 08-Oct-2018 13:24) Posted:

Peter lim buying? Anyway definetly better to buy the warrants since the price will definetly be above 0.09 in the near term for the main share... easy 40% upside for warrants
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 Alert Admin 		Peter lim buying? Anyway definetly better to buy the warrants since the price will definetly be above 0.09 in the near term for the main share... easy 40% upside for warrants
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 Alert Admin 		When market sentiment is bad it creates an opportunity to buy. Today may close above 0.09
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08-Oct-2018 13:09     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Testing 89. Peter Lim power.
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 Alert Admin 		Good to have constructive discussion...
My feel is big speculators will be taking profit at 88 resistance...lets see how low it can drop

Olympus      ( Date: 08-Oct-2018 07:38) Posted:

At this juncture it is pure speculation. The amount of shares issued to seller for TM is enormous and if we want to consider it from a fundamental point of view....very hard put our hard earned money down...but if we look at it from another  angle,  PL did not walk away with 1.6 billion dollar cash...PL walked back into TM from 39% ownership to slighly more than 90% ownership and he asked SGX for waiver of delisting if he pared his stake to below 90%. PL if he playing poker, did not pocket his winnings...he put the whole sum...lock, stock and barrel on the table...what does that tell us?? Always go back to Wilmar...did we get it when it was a lot cheaper, or we wait till it hit $5 to $6 and start believing the story.

The warrant is only 0.003/0.004 cts....3 to 4 bids to zero. Earlier last week seller was 0.002 cts and some even threw out at 0.001 cts...is collecting the warrant a risk worthy venture...do you have the stomach for it?
Share one last thought b4 heading to work. I cannot find an article or announcement where PL said he will not exercise the warrants....anybody can help find?
If PL did really say that...what does it tell us...PL' s warrant and Piggy Back warrant are computed in the 850 million and 1.13 billion that TM are hoping to receive from shareholders...so if PL did said he will not exercise...that means somebody else got to exercise right? Yes/No??? Lol chicken and egg issue or is it another Mas Selamat conundrum...either he is in Singapore or out of Singapore!! I am vested small in the warrants...vested just to stay interested and believe the story...the PL Story. I don' t punt the stock tho my feel so far for it wasn' t far off. Good luck to punters...stay nervous and stay excited lol,
 

trademaster      ( Date: 08-Oct-2018 01:15) Posted:

Not sure if just pure speculation, with the huge volume for the past 3 days, I am sure there are many speculators, and when they sell to take profit expect a big drop to previous support around  83-84 ct
 
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 Alert Admin 		if PL sells his warrant... does he need to declare?
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 Alert Admin 		At this juncture it is pure speculation. The amount of shares issued to seller for TM is enormous and if we want to consider it from a fundamental point of view....very hard put our hard earned money down...but if we look at it from another  angle,  PL did not walk away with 1.6 billion dollar cash...PL walked back into TM from 39% ownership to slighly more than 90% ownership and he asked SGX for waiver of delisting if he pared his stake to below 90%. PL if he playing poker, did not pocket his winnings...he put the whole sum...lock, stock and barrel on the table...what does that tell us?? Always go back to Wilmar...did we get it when it was a lot cheaper, or we wait till it hit $5 to $6 and start believing the story.

The warrant is only 0.003/0.004 cts....3 to 4 bids to zero. Earlier last week seller was 0.002 cts and some even threw out at 0.001 cts...is collecting the warrant a risk worthy venture...do you have the stomach for it?
Share one last thought b4 heading to work. I cannot find an article or announcement where PL said he will not exercise the warrants....anybody can help find?
If PL did really say that...what does it tell us...PL' s warrant and Piggy Back warrant are computed in the 850 million and 1.13 billion that TM are hoping to receive from shareholders...so if PL did said he will not exercise...that means somebody else got to exercise right? Yes/No??? Lol chicken and egg issue or is it another Mas Selamat conundrum...either he is in Singapore or out of Singapore!! I am vested small in the warrants...vested just to stay interested and believe the story...the PL Story. I don' t punt the stock tho my feel so far for it wasn' t far off. Good luck to punters...stay nervous and stay excited lol,
 

trademaster      ( Date: 08-Oct-2018 01:15) Posted:

Not sure if just pure speculation, with the huge volume for the past 3 days, I am sure there are many speculators, and when they sell to take profit expect a big drop to previous support around  83-84 ct
 

trademaster      ( Date: 06-Oct-2018 19:25) Posted:

Thanks for the update. Just checked, when the mother share was trading around 0.091-0.094, warrant was around 0.004-0.006 range in early May.  Playing the warrant is cheaper but high beta. The risk is if the price surge is plain speculative, it may not cross 9 ct and drop back then its warrant will be out of money again
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 Alert Admin 		Not sure if just pure speculation, with the huge volume for the past 3 days, I am sure there are many speculators, and when they sell to take profit expect a big drop to previous support around  83-84 ct
 

trademaster      ( Date: 06-Oct-2018 19:25) Posted:

Thanks for the update. Just checked, when the mother share was trading around 0.091-0.094, warrant was around 0.004-0.006 range in early May.  Playing the warrant is cheaper but high beta. The risk is if the price surge is plain speculative, it may not cross 9 ct and drop back then its warrant will be out of money again.

Olympus      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 16:17) Posted:

April 30th the mother ex warrant was trading 0.096 and closed at 0.094...since that day till now been trading out of the money(below 9 cts)
April 30th the warrant came out trading  0.008 abd closed at 0.006. For a long while, there was a huge accumulation at 0.004 cts b4 mkt became so bad it traded down to 0.001/0.002 cts and the mother traded below the offer price of 0.076 cts...lowest I think was 0.074 cts...that was very alarming and stressful for investors...now at least see glimmer of hope. Not out of the wood yet and hope really got good news to propel the share higher and fellow investors can exercise the warrants.

Be prepared to see some selling pressure at 0.004 cts as huge accumulation around there over past months, but if got good news over weekend and Monday mother gap up above 9 cts...the resistance at 0.004 cts for the warrant will be nullified
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 Alert Admin 		Okay lets crunch some numbers and hopefully in the process have a better understanding of the Thomson Medical Deal.
The original total number of shares of Rowsley before name changed to Thomson Medical was.......
 
4,738,417,411 shares(4.73 billion shares approx.) and Peter Lim(PL) own 39% translated to 1,849,438,093 shares(1.84 billion shares approx.)
 
Rowsley the buyer bought over PL' s Sasteria Pte Ltd for $1.6 billion by issuing shares to the Seller at .075 cts which translated into new
21,333,333,334 new Rowsley shares. After Rowsley name change to Thomson Medical, the total number of TM shares stand at ...
 
4,738,417,411 + 21,333,333,334 =26,071,750.745 Shares
 
(1) Only the original holders of the shares before the takeover entitled to the bonus warrant (9 cts)  and piggy back warrant (12 cts).
        Please note Piggy back warrant will be given only to those that convert the 9 cts warrant.
 
(2) Rowsley in their announcement did mentioned that from the exercise of offering 2 Bonus warrant for every share held, they expect to
          receive 850 million dollars and if the one for one piggy back warrant also exercised another 1,130 million dollars(1.13 billion dollars)
 
            The computation is on the original number of Rowsley shares...
 
          4,738,417,411 X 2 Bonus  Warrant =9,476,834,822 X 0.09 cts  =852,915 million dollars (approx.)
          So for Piggy Back Warrant if also exercised at 12 cts the proceeds is 9,476,834,822 X 0.12cts = 1.13 Billion Dollars (approx.)
 
Some food for thoughts.....
 
  PL' s original stake of 1.84 billion shares are also rewarded with the bonus warrants and if exercised,   also rewarded with the piggy back warrants.
 
If we read the company prospectus it did mention the following.....
 
" To allow existing Rowsley shareholders to participate in the growth story, shareholders will be offered two Bonus Warrants for each existing share with an exercise price of $0.09. And for every bonus warrant exercised, an additional warrant (Piggyback Warrant) can be exercised on the basis of one piggyback warrant for every one bonus warrant. The piggyback warrant has an exercise price of $0.12 per share. Assuming all warrants are exercised, Rowsley will receive approximately $850 million and $1,130 million of proceeds respectively, which will be used to fund its future growth and working capital."
 
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From above statement it is clearly stated " allowing shareholders to participate in the growth story(Thomson Medical)" . ​ So can we assume that the mother share will run past the 9 cts and in fact a lot higher so as to entice shareholders to convert...yes/no? If Thomson shares don' t run past the 9 cts and go a lot higher before next April to entice...will it be consider a failure, farcical and embarrassing?
 
​ So we know PL' s warrants is also computed into the funds of $850 millions...so  we can   presume that PL' s portion of the warrants will be exercised...question is will PL exercise the warrant himself?
If Thomson Medical shares rises  way above the 9 cts, will PL sell a portion of his original shares coupled with the warrants...it can be a scenario of possibilities to have some funds taking a stake in the medical growth in Singapore and Malaysia.
 
Will this run fizzle out like so many times over the past months? This is a one year expiry warrant...  April next year. Usually the last 3 months before expiry, holders will sell their warrants especially when it is out of the money and warrant prices start heading south. So we can assume that by end January next year if the 9 cts warrant is still out of the money, chances players will sell and get out. That leave us with a window period of October(now) to January (next year)  to see any positive development in the TM share price. We do know that TM is trying to hive off its non core assets and consolidate the rest hopefully under another listing leaving TM as a pure medical play....in a sense there will likely be a lot of good vibe announcements like the recent hiving off of one company Ariva Pte Ltd to Tang Dynasty Pte Ltd to help propel the share price higher. Hope there are more positive announcements and holders get to realize some gains for keeping faith with the company.
 
This is just my personal feel and I can be very wrong and I apologise....Many good news and Thomson Medical zoom past 10 cts and entice holders to convert and get the free piggy back. The 9 cts warrant will trade at a slight premium to the mother share and Thomson Medical will zoom past the 12 cts and head higher...by then there will be more than a 100 shareholders who convert the 9ct warrant and the piggy back will be trading. As the piggy back is given free and now trading...for example if mother is 13 cts...9ct warrant theoretically will trade 4 cts  and the piggy back trading at 1 ct...the Piggy Back warrant in a devious(lol) way is used as a chaser to entice rest of the holders to convert...... I end with this remark...Peter Lim is a Genius if he can pull this off and meanwhile help shareholders realize enormous gains....possible yes/no? Do you believe?
 
There are many GURUS in the stock market...most I just listen and take with a pinch of salt. Very few GURUS shake me and for those few that shake me I listen and try figure out.
This is one that I listen and take notice when he speak.....  http://donovan-ang.blogspot.com/2017/10/rowsley-12-october-2017-thursday-620am.html
 
Good luck if you trading this stock next week. For those who don' t understand what I wrote please let me know and I I try explain.    Sorry for being long winded....stuffs that can be super exponential very hard put in words and most time I get laughed at and look really stupid..Panadol does help once in a while.
Rowsley:  12 October 2017, Thursday, 6.20am Singapore Time (Click on Chart Above to Expand) Attached is the updated technicals fo...
donovan-ang.blogspot.com
 
 

 

 
 
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07-Oct-2018 09:15     
 
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 Alert Admin 		4h chart

w0 74 w1 79 w2 76 w3?
w1 5
- 17 candle 8.5 day

w2 3
- 5 candle 2.5 day

w3 8 tgt 84 up 161.8%
- px hit 89 now delta 13 up 260%
- 7 candle 3.5 day
- time frame is still too short.
- but px is already 250% of w1
- >=w1 or <= w1+w2
- avg abt 11c or 5.5 day
- so expect up a little more them start w4

w4 5 tgt 84
- >= w3 7 candle 3.5 day

w5 11 tgt 95 w1+w3 ×61.8%
- >= w4 7 candle 3.5 day

No 100%.
Good luck.

SgYuan      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 10:38) Posted:

EW is not wrong
It is how we interpret it.
So my take is this.
Still at w3. More to come.
w3 ?87
w4 ?
w5 ?

trademaster      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 09:51) Posted:

Yes thats why i feel ew a bit wrong, maybe these are the mini waves?
If price break further up, my free warrants will take care of it. So will buy only on dip. The last round someone threw 1 mil at 75, i managed to catch it not sure if still got chance again
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 Alert Admin 		If the share price of the mother can sustain above 0.09 (i guess it' ll needs to be much higher than 0.09)  ..... it will encourage warrant holders to exercise it. This will help to raise additional fund of $853M through these warrant.

If the mother' s price is just 0.091 ~ 0.093 ... ppl may not want to exercise it. It will sometimes take up to 1 week for the share to be converted and the mother share price might drop below 0.09 after 1 week.

So .... i believe the mother share price will be pushed above 0.1 to encourage warrant to be converted.

nngeeh      ( Date: 06-Oct-2018 20:30) Posted:

PL owns 45.36% of the total available warrants.

The question is will PL let the wrt expire when he owns 45.36% of the total warrants? However, if the share price goes beyond 0.09 ... he will need to fork out $386M to exercise the warrant (this doesn' t include the piggy back warrant).

The warrant has been dropping from the beginning.

ysh2006      ( Date: 06-Oct-2018 19:41) Posted:

Now still not safe to convert ..wait till the mother share stand firm above 9.4c than convert!! Need to consider the warrant price too! by April next year ...For the past experiences PLim not so kind hearted will let wrt expiried no conversion. He may again come out another idea/scheme of new warrants / right issue to raise funds (I think only


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 Alert Admin 		PL owns 45.36% of the total available warrants.

The question is will PL let the wrt expire when he owns 45.36% of the total warrants? However, if the share price goes beyond 0.09 ... he will need to fork out $386M to exercise the warrant (this doesn' t include the piggy back warrant).

The warrant has been dropping from the beginning.

ysh2006      ( Date: 06-Oct-2018 19:41) Posted:

Now still not safe to convert ..wait till the mother share stand firm above 9.4c than convert!! Need to consider the warrant price too! by April next year ...For the past experiences PLim not so kind hearted will let wrt expiried no conversion. He may again come out another idea/scheme of new warrants / right issue to raise funds (I think only )

trademaster      ( Date: 06-Oct-2018 19:25) Posted:

Thanks for the update. Just checked, when the mother share was trading around 0.091-0.094, warrant was around 0.004-0.006 range in early May.  Playing the warrant is cheaper but high beta. The risk is if the price surge is plain speculative, it may not cross 9 ct and drop back then its warrant will be out of money again
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 Alert Admin 		Now still not safe to convert ..wait till the mother share stand firm above 9.4c than convert!! Need to consider the warrant price too! by April next year ...For the past experiences PLim not so kind hearted will let wrt expiried no conversion. He may again come out another idea/scheme of new warrants / right issue to raise funds (I think only )

trademaster      ( Date: 06-Oct-2018 19:25) Posted:

Thanks for the update. Just checked, when the mother share was trading around 0.091-0.094, warrant was around 0.004-0.006 range in early May.  Playing the warrant is cheaper but high beta. The risk is if the price surge is plain speculative, it may not cross 9 ct and drop back then its warrant will be out of money again.

Olympus      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 16:17) Posted:

April 30th the mother ex warrant was trading 0.096 and closed at 0.094...since that day till now been trading out of the money(below 9 cts)
April 30th the warrant came out trading  0.008 abd closed at 0.006. For a long while, there was a huge accumulation at 0.004 cts b4 mkt became so bad it traded down to 0.001/0.002 cts and the mother traded below the offer price of 0.076 cts...lowest I think was 0.074 cts...that was very alarming and stressful for investors...now at least see glimmer of hope. Not out of the wood yet and hope really got good news to propel the share higher and fellow investors can exercise the warrants.

Be prepared to see some selling pressure at 0.004 cts as huge accumulation around there over past months, but if got good news over weekend and Monday mother gap up above 9 cts...the resistance at 0.004 cts for the warrant will be nullified
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 Alert Admin 		Thanks for the update. Just checked, when the mother share was trading around 0.091-0.094, warrant was around 0.004-0.006 range in early May.  Playing the warrant is cheaper but high beta. The risk is if the price surge is plain speculative, it may not cross 9 ct and drop back then its warrant will be out of money again.

Olympus      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 16:17) Posted:

April 30th the mother ex warrant was trading 0.096 and closed at 0.094...since that day till now been trading out of the money(below 9 cts)
April 30th the warrant came out trading  0.008 abd closed at 0.006. For a long while, there was a huge accumulation at 0.004 cts b4 mkt became so bad it traded down to 0.001/0.002 cts and the mother traded below the offer price of 0.076 cts...lowest I think was 0.074 cts...that was very alarming and stressful for investors...now at least see glimmer of hope. Not out of the wood yet and hope really got good news to propel the share higher and fellow investors can exercise the warrants.

Be prepared to see some selling pressure at 0.004 cts as huge accumulation around there over past months, but if got good news over weekend and Monday mother gap up above 9 cts...the resistance at 0.004 cts for the warrant will be nullified.

trademaster      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 15:15) Posted:

Anyone remember the price of warrant when mother trading at 9 ct , 12 ct?
Looks like warrant in play now, cheaper to play
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 Alert Admin 		Lookung nore like rex intl.......

boyboy61      ( Date: 03-Oct-2018 19:38) Posted:

Another rex intl in the making.....in terms of price movement

nngeeh      ( Date: 03-Oct-2018 17:38) Posted:

Or there is good news coming. The volume is huge, and the closing price is day high
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 Alert Admin 		April 30th the mother ex warrant was trading 0.096 and closed at 0.094...since that day till now been trading out of the money(below 9 cts)
April 30th the warrant came out trading  0.008 abd closed at 0.006. For a long while, there was a huge accumulation at 0.004 cts b4 mkt became so bad it traded down to 0.001/0.002 cts and the mother traded below the offer price of 0.076 cts...lowest I think was 0.074 cts...that was very alarming and stressful for investors...now at least see glimmer of hope. Not out of the wood yet and hope really got good news to propel the share higher and fellow investors can exercise the warrants.

Be prepared to see some selling pressure at 0.004 cts as huge accumulation around there over past months, but if got good news over weekend and Monday mother gap up above 9 cts...the resistance at 0.004 cts for the warrant will be nullified.

trademaster      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 15:15) Posted:

Anyone remember the price of warrant when mother trading at 9 ct , 12 ct?
Looks like warrant in play now, cheaper to play
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 Alert Admin 		Tks ... warrant now 4/5

FRANCISYKW      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 15:41) Posted:

around mid May when the warrant start trading at 0.6 cts when main share is trading at 9.5 cts

trademaster      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 15:35) Posted:

above 9ct, warrant should be trading 6-8 ct rang
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 Alert Admin 		around mid May when the warrant start trading at 0.6 cts when main share is trading at 9.5 cts

trademaster      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 15:35) Posted:

above 9ct, warrant should be trading 6-8 ct range

trademaster      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 15:15) Posted:

Anyone remember the price of warrant when mother trading at 9 ct , 12 ct?
Looks like warrant in play now, cheaper to play
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 Alert Admin 		above 9ct, warrant should be trading 6-8 ct range

trademaster      ( Date: 05-Oct-2018 15:15) Posted:

Anyone remember the price of warrant when mother trading at 9 ct , 12 ct?
Looks like warrant in play now, cheaper to play
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