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CSH123
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19-Jun-2013 12:15
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When the ship reaches the dock, will u board :) | ||||
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Octavia
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19-Jun-2013 09:50
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MNC stands for Multi- National Corporation.
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rbgmauq
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19-Jun-2013 09:45
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NOL has been showing support around 1.08 and resistance in the 1.17 price range. The technical indicator shows a strong buy with the 1.367 target price in six months.   http://sgx.stoxline.com/quote.php?s=n03   |
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Octavia
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19-Jun-2013 09:40
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More competition ahead for the smaller players, after the three largest container shipping lines in the world Maersk Line, Mediterranean Shipping and CMA CGM, announced plans to set up an operational alliance called the P3 network on the three busiest trade routes of the Asia-Europe, trans-Pacific and transatlantic routes. The three groups, which combined operate about 37% of global container capacity are seeking regulatory approval and aims to start operating in 2Q14 with an initial capacity of 255 vessels, or 2.6m 20-foot equivalent units (TEU). The move underlines how badly the industry is struggling with overcapacity and volatile rates, which have fallen by as much as 70% in the past 12 mths. Drewry research note that the tie-up should get the green light from regulators as there are still more than 15 competing carriers on most trade routes and the combination of Maersk/MSC/CMA CGM in an operating alliance will not damage competition. The top three European liners together account for 45% and 23% market share in Asia-Europe and Transpacific route, respectively. They already have a significant advantage over their peers in terms of average vessel size, particularly in the Transpacific route (32% higher than peers). CMA-CGM and Maersk reported much-stronger results in 1Q13 vs peers. HSBC note that in theory, the aim of such an alliance is to reduce the operating costs in the industry. Note however that one of the liners house spoke with remains of the view that these European liners will take this opportunity to consolidate the main-lane trade and push inefficient, weaker liners out of the business. JP Morgan conclude that the P3 alliance would be the market leader, with 45.0% capacity share, way ahead of CKYH (Cosco, K Line, Yang Ming, Hanjin) alliance’s 17.4% and G6 alliance’s 19.2% (Grand Alliance’s 10.7% comprising Hapag-Lloyd, OOIL, NYK + New World Alliance’s 8.5% comprising NOL, Mitsui OSK, HMM). The flipside is that the alliance could crowd out the smaller players given the cost advantage of their larger-sized vessels, which would be negative for the Asian liners. This could force proper consolidation through alliances and/or M& A. House Stay cautious and stick with quality names: Top picks are Evergreen Marine and OOIL, which have lower exposure to Asia-Europe trade, stronger balance sheets and attractive valuations. Asian liners with the largest capacity exposure to Asia-Europe are CSCL, K-Line, Hanjin, HMM and Yang Ming, while the least exposed are SITC, Wan Hai, MOL, NOL and OOIL. |
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ynnek1267
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19-Jun-2013 09:00
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What MNC is it? Maersk? My friend was in NOL before, the culture inside is very politic. Now in BP, easy job & good life. Hope the MNC is good for you to stay. Container shipping industry will be over capacity at least  5 to 10  years. Someone just can't understand what happen in this industry. Container vessel move to giant vessel, Maersk EEE series first delivery vessel in this year is 18000TEU. This is 4 times of  a normal container vessel 4000 to 5000 TEU vessel. Supply (shipyards in China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam and etc) are waiting to fill their capacity eagerly. The new vessels  are always new, efficient, larger and cheaper. So long as this industry recover a bit like 2009 to 2010, new order will flood to market and deliver the vessels  from 2012 to  2014 and spoil the freight rate. This story will keep repeating.
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tchoonw
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19-Jun-2013 08:27
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I just joined this coy recently. But I got another offer from a mnc. U think should leave?
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ynnek1267
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19-Jun-2013 08:12
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Now the freight rate is back to 2011 low. Another hundred million loss will be recorded in 2013. Coming quarter confirm loss big big.
Fat year 2014? Can survive in 2013 is??????? |
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ynnek1267
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19-Jun-2013 08:07
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Really sing song. The money was raised for notes to fund billion dollar of new vessels. New vessels delivered one by one,ddon't need to pay ah. Where to find money to fill operating loss after selling headquarter? Right issue only.
The higher nol pump, the higher chance right issue come, not for expansion, just for filling the unstoppable operating loss. Wahahaha!!!!
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sgng123
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18-Jun-2013 23:37
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US markets moving up in anticipation of easing of tapering talk after fed reserve meeting on wed, basically tomorrow sti would recover some more to 3250. Maybe ship would move some more due to better sentiment in container industry after the P3 formation less spot rate movement. July GRI on both Europe and US is like a take away after today P3 alliance announcement, basically no one in the industry going to undercut each other and carriers discipline are enforced | ||||
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sgng123
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18-Jun-2013 20:19
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Ship today moving ok. With the industry leaders finally acknowledge to work together and now the overcapacity issue might be resolved soon. The possibility of any rate war in the next 2-3 years is virtually zero as the culprits are now working together ( Maersk, MSC and CMA). P3 formation would greatly take out excess capacity in industry in 2014 as what we seen in the other alliances G6 etc. Now I waiting to see any Lay up of capacity from Maersk, MSC and CMA just like what they did in 2009, purposely take out capacity and jack up the freight rate in expected economy recovery in 2010. If they lay up 10% of capacity then container carriers would had a fat year in 2014, this year freight rate most likely similar or a bit better than 2012. Share price might continue moving north like what happen in 2009 till 2010. By the way NOL don need right issue as they had like US1.3Billion and 700 million MTN loan still not drawn, lot of ammo left. |
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ynnek1267
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18-Jun-2013 17:25
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Don't sing song lah. con newbie meh. Right issue coming soon lah. NOL got no money liao. Only can pump up and raise right. |
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stockmarketmind
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18-Jun-2013 17:02
Yells: "stockmarketmindgames" |
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Heavy breakout! Big profits! | ||||
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stockmarketmind
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18-Jun-2013 15:13
Yells: "stockmarketmindgames" |
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The breakout in NOL! http://stockmarketmindgames.blogspot.sg/2013/06/nol-breakout.html  |
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sgng123
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18-Jun-2013 14:19
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NOL up 0.02 to 1.08 on P3 formation news, share price might build up after wed central banker meeting. Carriers joining force usually meant less rate war and more exploiting of  higher spot freight rate which would meant more stable service contract rate. Top 3 arch rival containers joining force is a price mover to be reckon with , hope the share rally continues from here till year end. July GRI is likely to be a 100% success prepare for 3 fold increase in Europe spot rate and 20% surge in transpacific, maybe another big GRI is otw in august or sep GRI 1000 in aug? | ||||
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sgng123
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18-Jun-2013 13:52
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http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/sector/containers/article424624.ece Top 3 carriers Maersk, MSC and CMA joining force to form P3 alliance on all trading route in 2014. This going to be very funning as it basically reduce the number of big players in container shipping industries from 4 to 3. P3, G6 and China/Korean with P3 controlling like 45% of major trade route, they might as well form a container cartel lol. Less undercutting each other and more exploiting of shippers, basically more and bigger GRI coming and guarantee to be successful due to less competition. 2014 might be the year when container industry recover strongly due to less competition. |
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sgng123
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18-Jun-2013 13:42
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NOL to remain flat till thurs when outcome of fed reserve meeting is known on wed night. Another one of the boring trading session with super low volume with everyone waiting on sideline and trade on news.. | ||||
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sgng123
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13-Jun-2013 23:23
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Market doing self correction and most likely stabilised after this week while waiting for Fed Reserve meeting result. Today STI  drop below  3100 mark and rebound to finish at 3127. tomorrow might see short selling covering back before the week ended, this week very bad for asia stocks, bonds and currency. | ||||
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sgng123
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13-Jun-2013 20:36
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Market falling to right valuation but no one dared to buy cos of fear of more drop lol. Uncertainty is what killed markets and racking up of fear of recession so everyone is rushing for exit even had to stomach big loss thinking can buy back at cheaper prices. Problem is people don buyback at cheap price, normally they rush in when the markets are rally at historical high, human nature herd instinct. Anyway don go in and buy follow herd instinct and do day trading is more practical, don go against the market trend. Today STI reduce loss by half due to short covering, hope tomorrow calm would come to market. | ||||
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13-Jun-2013 17:11
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It's called Great Stock Sale(GSS)..  ![]() It's good for those who want to buy..   without GSS, how to go in? |
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sgng123
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13-Jun-2013 09:54
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By the way STI just got demolished with 1 hour opening currently down -50 points approaching target of 3100. Everything down like 2-5% no one is spared but volume low, most likely short sellers or FM pushing down stocks to valuation preparing for the eventual QE3 tapering later this year. This June should be called brutal june lot of investors got burnt if they trade in the may-june period. | ||||
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