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tritonyeah6666 Senior	19-Nov-2021 11:09        tritonyeah6666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Possible & pretty common way to chrun volume & bring down price. But, I wonder, imagine if really no one sell & if anyone who buy is really to invest to buy & hold for long, then I guess the game will end soon - even if no BB comes in to push the price up, the shortist game will end eventually because of no participation. And it will have to end because there is always a bottom to each & every stock that will attract bargain hunter. Means higher risks to shortist. Just another side of the coin to balance the view a little Traveler      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 10:48) Posted: Hmmm, perhaps a lot of the trades are from left hands to right hands of the bigger shortists in order to press the price down ?? tritonyeah6666      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 10:42) Posted: Yep. Given the float, & seeing not much changes to institutionals' holdings percentage, really wonder where got so many scripts flying around
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Traveler Member	19-Nov-2021 10:48        Traveler About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hmmm, perhaps a lot of the trades are from left hands to right hands of the bigger shortists in order to press the price down ?? tritonyeah6666      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 10:42) Posted: Yep. Given the float, & seeing not much changes to institutionals' holdings percentage, really wonder where got so many scripts flying around ) Longtermer      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 10:38) Posted: Major share holders own more than 60%. Cash rich company and generating profits every qtr..    All glove companies are using their huge cash to expand biz. Why?    Looking at PE min 8 times (historical 12 to 15 times). You calculate the potential.  Willing to wait , no contra for me.  Buy more when drop more...    ..
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beng1102 Elite	19-Nov-2021 10:46        beng1102 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Yes.  Just wait for them to sell out and we will buy as many shares as possible at extremely low price.  Dividend is more than 10%, so can easily recover.  In fact the EPF should have raised fund through secured borrowing at about 2% and still make 8% every year and still meet funding requirement and still own the assets. tritonyeah6666      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 10:42) Posted: Yep. Given the float, & seeing not much changes to institutionals' holdings percentage, really wonder where got so many scripts flying around ) Longtermer      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 10:38) Posted: Major share holders own more than 60%. Cash rich company and generating profits every qtr..    All glove companies are using their huge cash to expand biz. Why?    Looking at PE min 8 times (historical 12 to 15 times). You calculate the potential.  Willing to wait , no contra for me.  Buy more when drop more...    ..
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tritonyeah6666 Senior	19-Nov-2021 10:42        tritonyeah6666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yep. Given the float, & seeing not much changes to institutionals' holdings percentage, really wonder where got so many scripts flying around ) Longtermer      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 10:38) Posted: Major share holders own more than 60%. Cash rich company and generating profits every qtr..    All glove companies are using their huge cash to expand biz. Why?    Looking at PE min 8 times (historical 12 to 15 times). You calculate the potential.  Willing to wait , no contra for me.  Buy more when drop more...    ..   wavehunter      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 09:51) Posted: Bro Longtermer, Just out of curiosity, what is your upside expectation of what this stock can do for your portfolio? Thanks.
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tritonyeah6666 Senior	19-Nov-2021 10:39        tritonyeah6666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Keep bashing but the price didn't drop much. Perhaps buying interest really returning
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Longtermer Elite	19-Nov-2021 10:38        Longtermer About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Yells: "A disciplined investor is a wealthy investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Major share holders own more than 60%. Cash rich company and generating profits every qtr..    All glove companies are using their huge cash to expand biz. Why?    Looking at PE min 8 times (historical 12 to 15 times). You calculate the potential.  Willing to wait , no contra for me.  Buy more when drop more...    ..   wavehunter      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 09:51) Posted: Bro Longtermer, Just out of curiosity, what is your upside expectation of what this stock can do for your portfolio? Thanks.
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wavehunter Supreme	19-Nov-2021 10:26        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
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wavehunter Supreme	19-Nov-2021 09:51        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Bro Longtermer, Just out of curiosity, what is your upside expectation of what this stock can do for your portfolio? Thanks.
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Midtermer Master	19-Nov-2021 07:46        Midtermer About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I agree but need to be able to hold at least 2 quarters imo for a significant uptrend if things turn around. Was thinking maybe EPF still dumping as of yesterday? Since no need to report anymore. Longtermer      ( Date: 19-Nov-2021 07:32) Posted: For value investors, irrational price drop presents opportunity to accumulate. Company cash Rm1.76b. Makes Rm1.8b last 3 qtrs. PE 2x. Getting greedy. Best is no contra.
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Longtermer Elite	19-Nov-2021 07:32        Longtermer About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Yells: "A disciplined investor is a wealthy investor"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	For value investors, irrational price drop presents opportunity to accumulate. Company cash Rm1.76b. Makes Rm1.8b last 3 qtrs. PE 2x. Getting greedy. Best is no contra.
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yumsang Member	18-Nov-2021 18:36        yumsang About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if want to hungry for malaysian stuff, and if got link to they garment in anyway, CLOB is the lesson to remember.
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handyman Member	18-Nov-2021 15:26        handyman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	EPF had sold more than 27m shares since 20 Sep 2021 and most of it without announcement and looks like it' s not complying with the SGX rules of substantial shareholders
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Checkerman Master	18-Nov-2021 14:59        Checkerman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Price is Free falling . 50 -60 cents soon beng1102      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:33) Posted: No enough money to meet withdrawal by the members due to poorly managed the fund. sutiono      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:30) Posted: Why EPF cut loss ?
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wavehunter Supreme	18-Nov-2021 14:58        wavehunter About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Trade what you see, not what you hope to see."
x 0   x 2  Alert Admin	EPF..... can say they are smart and can say they are not so smart also. They are smart becoz they have realised the longer they wait to sell, the lesser they will get back. Becoz in a falling knife scenario, he who hesitates to sell get to sell lower and he who hesitates the longest get to sell at the lowest. And they are not so smart becoz - they should have done this when the price peaked out and started to fall, not wait until now. Bro investor shared with us his frustrating selling experience when he had a margin call He queued to sell becoz of margin call. But there was always someone else who was prepared to sell lower than him instead of joining the SELL queue and wait there to be filled. Once another seller throws to the buyers in the BUY queue, there are no more buyers there left and the price is bumped down by 1 bid and what used to be the BUY price is now the SELL price and you find yourself now queueing at 2 bids away from the current spot SELL price. So you shift your SELL order 1 bid lower and wait to be filled. And then it happens again - somebody else is willing to sell lower and he throws to all the buyers in the BUY queue and the price is bumped down again by another bid. And this price action is repeated down the line. And in the end, Bro investor found himself having to leave the SELL queue and throw to the buyers in the BUY queue too in order to fill up his SELL orders so as to avoid margin call. And he said had he been more willing to throw earlier instead of queue at the SELL price, he could have gotten a much better price. Yes, he who hesitates to sell get to sell lower. I can relate 100% to what Bro investor went thru. Becoz many many moons ago, I was there myself. Suffering the same frustration and anguish. And NABEHing away at those people who play cheat didnt queue but threw to the buyers. It was a damn frustrating experience. But I learnt from it. That if you dont sell, others will. You lose. Period. NABEH all you like at these people who threw but it wont change anything and certainly wont change the fact that the price is still falling and you are still holding on to shares which are losing value everyday.
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Godwinlow Elite	18-Nov-2021 14:57        Godwinlow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Ya just hold lo. Fund will sell shares no matter what price it is. Liquidity is priority for them beng1102      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:33) Posted: No enough money to meet withdrawal by the members due to poorly managed the fund. sutiono      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:30) Posted: Why EPF cut loss ?
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Godwinlow Elite	18-Nov-2021 14:55        Godwinlow About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yesterday RS SGX reported Malaysia providence fund sold almost 5 million shares on 15 nov
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TradeExpert Veteran	18-Nov-2021 14:41        TradeExpert About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe people should just look at other counters like Hong Fok (H30). This counter has been super undervalued for sometime.... Who know' s it might just go privatise under the rader....    Lolxx wavehunter      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:13) Posted: As long as there is still money to be made, they will keep at it. The shortseller has everything going for him. This stock does not have the support of funds, institutions and high net worth retail investors. So no worries for the shortseller that whilst he is shorting, these Tua Phows may suddenly come in to buy. With no big player playing against him from the LONG side, he is king and this stock is his playground. The days of mega supernormal profits are over for glove stocks. So from this point onwards, earnings can only get worse, not better. The whole industry is being downgraded. ASP is falling and supply is increasing. Why should she be more appealing now  than when her earnings were record-breaking ?  More and more people are giving up on this stock and heading for the door. When you take a step back and look at the big picture, it doesnt take much for one to immediately see that this stock has more downside and little upside. That being the case, the ground is very sweet for a shortseller to target this stock for whacking to profit from the SHORT side. It is like running downhill with a strong wind blowing on your back. As opposed to running uphill with a strong wind blowing in your face.  Becoz the ground is sweet, this shortseller will continue to milk this cow until all her milk has dried up. Only just yesterday, many people here firmly believed that 76 cts is the bottom. Well, the market has spoken. The bottom is reached only when there is not a single seller left. And I think that day is not anywhere nearby.    TradeExpert      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 13:45) Posted: Seems to be heading down towards the previous level of $0.375 to $0.423.....  Short Sellers has been shorting the gloves counters. People who can still short at around $0.75 with at least 300L are no ordinary players....  Hope it is able to fend of short selling at $0.6 at the next support level DYODD
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beng1102 Elite	18-Nov-2021 14:33        beng1102 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No enough money to meet withdrawal by the members due to poorly managed the fund. sutiono      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:30) Posted: Why EPF cut loss ? beng1102      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:26) Posted: EPF has been good at buy high sell low.    lol,
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sutiono Veteran	18-Nov-2021 14:30        sutiono About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why EPF cut loss ? beng1102      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 14:26) Posted: EPF has been good at buy high sell low.    lol, investor999      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 13:18) Posted: Now we know the reason why RS fell so much despite strong support at TG. Finally one BB has sold its 4 million shares and ceased to be a major holder. Is this bad? I look at it another way. The sell down had largely been from EPF. I don't think there are any BB left. As wavehunter had rightly pointed out. BB are out. So the major shareholders are retail players. This may be good as retail players tend to buy and hold
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beng1102 Elite	18-Nov-2021 14:26        beng1102 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	EPF has been good at buy high sell low.    lol, investor999      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 13:18) Posted: Now we know the reason why RS fell so much despite strong support at TG. Finally one BB has sold its 4 million shares and ceased to be a major holder. Is this bad? I look at it another way. The sell down had largely been from EPF. I don't think there are any BB left. As wavehunter had rightly pointed out. BB are out. So the major shareholders are retail players. This may be good as retail players tend to buy and hold. Stocky901      ( Date: 18-Nov-2021 10:53) Posted: If support 75c broken will dive below 70c. Must set cut loss point from here. dyodd.
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