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09-Dec-2015 13:26     
 
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1995-2008, who were the CEO? 

just look at balance sheet, company ranking and etc since this CEO step up, hardly convince he did a good job but instead a very bad job.

Reputation is built by ourselves instead of given by others. 

earlybird14      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:20) Posted:



lol. just said what you want loh.

If a CEO step up, just to selling company away, need this CEO for what. 

KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:16) Posted:



" In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst....... "

In year of 1995 NOL drop to about $0.40 but no one accuse the CEO so this guy can still sue EB for misleading and damage his reputation because the current share price above $1.00 still better than some previous CEO....


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rawlow1945
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09-Dec-2015 13:25     
 
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Totally agree on this.

it seems risks is not too high. Personally, i am queueing at 1.215 & bought a bit more at 1.22

MIght better than buying any blue chip stocks at the moment

Integrity      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 11:49) Posted:

Buy $1.22 with returns of $0.08 is good for those with cash and can hold till mid 2016. Minimal risk and high yield, better than bank FD in my opinion.
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09-Dec-2015 13:20     
 
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lol. just said what you want loh.

If a CEO step up, just to selling company away, need this CEO for what. 

KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:16) Posted:



" In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst....... "

In year of 1995 NOL drop to about $0.40 but no one accuse the CEO so this guy can still sue EB for misleading and damage his reputation because the current share price above $1.00 still better than some previous CEO....

Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 11:51) Posted:



From my reading, there doesn' t seem to be any damaging of reputation.  Appears factual to me. 


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" In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst....... "

In year of 1995 NOL drop to about $0.40 but no one accuse the CEO so this guy can still sue EB for misleading and damage his reputation because the current share price above $1.00 still better than some previous CEO....

Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 11:51) Posted:



From my reading, there doesn' t seem to be any damaging of reputation.  Appears factual to me. 

KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 10:48) Posted:



Agreed yes  ...

but you not afraid the CEO sue you for damaging his reputation ????


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09-Dec-2015 13:07     
 
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Listing of NOL will be history soon. Nothing much to discuss about . Final will be 1.30 liaoz.....lets move on . Now buy still can make some pocket money.
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From my reading, there doesn' t seem to be any damaging of reputation.  Appears factual to me. 

KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 10:48) Posted:



Agreed yes  ...

but you not afraid the CEO sue you for damaging his reputation ????

earlybird14      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 10:18) Posted:



Don' t know, every MNC companies under Temasek has their history and strong link with singapore success in past 50 years. 

Selling any one of them is a failure and a shame to our first generation who build them.

Temasek shall bear in mind, any one of the companies are not supposed to lose competition from market because they were built from nothing and compete with the existing market at that time and grow stronger to become today NOL(Mr Goh from), Keppel, Semb, Capitaland or ST engineering (where ho ching   from) and etc.

Today failure indirectly indicate the failure of singapore 2nd and 3rd generation not be able to compete with global market. 

In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst, every year has their cost cutting plan, every year making loss. 


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09-Dec-2015 11:49     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Buy $1.22 with returns of $0.08 is good for those with cash and can hold till mid 2016. Minimal risk and high yield, better than bank FD in my opinion.
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halleluyah
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09-Dec-2015 11:29     
 
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ssec is green n hsi rebound soon n dow future green,,,.fund hse might grab up 1.22...weak holders shld hv out yesterday n tis mrng, guess so...

halleluyah      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 11:15) Posted:



yesterday abt 22m buy up 1.22 which is abt 6.5% yield fr 6mth or might b 3-4mths holding....vry gd deal as a fd...Grab it b4 getting higher px... 

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09-Dec-2015 11:15     
 
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I don' t think I damage his reputation, he supposed to build his own reputation by restructuring NOL to more efficient and effective to tacke the global competition.

Till today, only 2 liners are consolidated NOL and CSAV. CSAV has problem since 2009. Why NOL is the 2nd one? don' t expect to be the first, but don' t manage it to become the second last.

KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 10:48) Posted:



Agreed yes  ...

but you not afraid the CEO sue you for damaging his reputation ????

earlybird14      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 10:18) Posted:



Don' t know, every MNC companies under Temasek has their history and strong link with singapore success in past 50 years. 

Selling any one of them is a failure and a shame to our first generation who build them.

Temasek shall bear in mind, any one of the companies are not supposed to lose competition from market because they were built from nothing and compete with the existing market at that time and grow stronger to become today NOL(Mr Goh from), Keppel, Semb, Capitaland or ST engineering (where ho ching   from) and etc.

Today failure indirectly indicate the failure of singapore 2nd and 3rd generation not be able to compete with global market. 

In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst, every year has their cost cutting plan, every year making loss. 


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yesterday abt 22m buy up 1.22 which is abt 6.5% yield fr 6mth or might b 3-4mths holding....vry gd deal as a fd...Grab it b4 getting higher px... 
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09-Dec-2015 11:11     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Getting weaker.May go under $1.20
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09-Dec-2015 11:02     
 
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Wow today also lot of volume done at 1.22, so many weak players giving up and benefit who ever buying up. Basically this week is to flush out all the weak investors and maybe only like 1-3% of total float. CPF and stonger holder basically holding out till general offer become unconditional, high chance they would get anti trust authority approval before next AGM so they can send the offer letter plus AGM mandate and 1 shot finish the thing in AGM. excitment it gona be so drama in nature and see how many accept the offer in AGM cum CMA offer. BY the way this deal is a death sentence sinceboth TH and CMa are bind by agreement unless blocked by anti trust regulatore which is highly unlikely and not a good outcome as stock couldcrash all the way down. 17mil buy block at 1.215  by TH hehe smart to buy out those weak holder who cannot tahan the 6 months wait. After this week no trader wanna be in NOL hot water . THis last deal with longist jumping in train for last 2 weeks being the winner and shortist plus long time cpf investors biggest loser.
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Agreed yes  ...

but you not afraid the CEO sue you for damaging his reputation ????

earlybird14      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 10:18) Posted:



Don' t know, every MNC companies under Temasek has their history and strong link with singapore success in past 50 years. 

Selling any one of them is a failure and a shame to our first generation who build them.

Temasek shall bear in mind, any one of the companies are not supposed to lose competition from market because they were built from nothing and compete with the existing market at that time and grow stronger to become today NOL(Mr Goh from), Keppel, Semb, Capitaland or ST engineering (where ho ching   from) and etc.

Today failure indirectly indicate the failure of singapore 2nd and 3rd generation not be able to compete with global market. 

In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst, every year has their cost cutting plan, every year making loss. 

Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 09:58) Posted:



This Captain Sayeed what qualification?


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09-Dec-2015 10:38     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Fight me in next GE...name ur constituent and il be there..hiak hiak hiak

earlybird14      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 09:49) Posted:



hahaha, I am only unhappy with the fat CEO and the person assigned him to be the CEO. I am PAP supporter, nobody is perfect, just hope thing don' t repeat again, we still has a lot MNC under Temasek, instead of thinking how to make money, Temasek shall spend more time to look for suitable candidate to lead her baby in singapore. We can' t lose our identity anymore.

Sad sad to look at history of NOL from Wiki.

 

Building Singapore maritime industry[edit]



In 1968, the Singapore government requested the government of Pakistan for an expert to advise them on the formation of a shipping company. Sayeed was chosen for this task by the Pakistan, which the  Pakistan National Shipping Corporation  agreed to as well. In Singapore, Sayeed formed  Neptune Orient Lines(NOL) in 1969 and worked there until 1973. At the time of his departure, the then Prime Minister,  Lee Kuan Yew, wrote him the following farewell letter.[1]


&ldquo Thank you for your letter of September 7 telling me that you have decided to return to Pakistan. May I sincerely thank you for having helped NOL get on its feet. Your services were invaluable. Thank you for the kind and generous compliments you have paid to the people of Singapore, and for your good wishes to my wife, children and me. May I wish you an interesting and rewarding future as you move to new challenges. For a person of your years to find the time and interest in-between your duties to be able to write a note to me in Chinese demonstrates the triumph of an inquisitive mind and an indomitable spirit over hard challenges.&rdquo


During his career at NOL,  Goh Chok Tong  worked as a financial controller under him in NOL. After his death, Goh sent the following message to his wife Zareena[1]


" Captain Sayeed laid the keel for NOL and built it up into a reputable international line for which Singapore will always be grateful. None of us had ever run a shipping line and Captain Sayeed was patient in teaching us the ropes..."


Integrity      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 09:38) Posted:



It' s all part of the group lah, so obvious leh.


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09-Dec-2015 10:31     
 
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 Alert Admin 		Lol, when he was the chief of defence already eat till fat fat. Maybe he is too used to army world - "command & do & don't ask".

earlybird14      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 09:49) Posted:



hahaha, I am only unhappy with the fat CEO and the person assigned him to be the CEO. I am PAP supporter, nobody is perfect, just hope thing don' t repeat again, we still has a lot MNC under Temasek, instead of thinking how to make money, Temasek shall spend more time to look for suitable candidate to lead her baby in singapore. We can' t lose our identity anymore.

Sad sad to look at history of NOL from Wiki.

 

Building Singapore maritime industry[edit]



In 1968, the Singapore government requested the government of Pakistan for an expert to advise them on the formation of a shipping company. Sayeed was chosen for this task by the Pakistan, which the  Pakistan National Shipping Corporation  agreed to as well. In Singapore, Sayeed formed  Neptune Orient Lines(NOL) in 1969 and worked there until 1973. At the time of his departure, the then Prime Minister,  Lee Kuan Yew, wrote him the following farewell letter.[1]


&ldquo Thank you for your letter of September 7 telling me that you have decided to return to Pakistan. May I sincerely thank you for having helped NOL get on its feet. Your services were invaluable. Thank you for the kind and generous compliments you have paid to the people of Singapore, and for your good wishes to my wife, children and me. May I wish you an interesting and rewarding future as you move to new challenges. For a person of your years to find the time and interest in-between your duties to be able to write a note to me in Chinese demonstrates the triumph of an inquisitive mind and an indomitable spirit over hard challenges.&rdquo


During his career at NOL,  Goh Chok Tong  worked as a financial controller under him in NOL. After his death, Goh sent the following message to his wife Zareena[1]


" Captain Sayeed laid the keel for NOL and built it up into a reputable international line for which Singapore will always be grateful. None of us had ever run a shipping line and Captain Sayeed was patient in teaching us the ropes..."


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It' s all part of the group lah, so obvious leh.


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Don' t know, every MNC companies under Temasek has their history and strong link with singapore success in past 50 years. 

Selling any one of them is a failure and a shame to our first generation who build them.

Temasek shall bear in mind, any one of the companies are not supposed to lose competition from market because they were built from nothing and compete with the existing market at that time and grow stronger to become today NOL(Mr Goh from), Keppel, Semb, Capitaland or ST engineering (where ho ching   from) and etc.

Today failure indirectly indicate the failure of singapore 2nd and 3rd generation not be able to compete with global market. 

In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst, every year has their cost cutting plan, every year making loss. 

Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 09:58) Posted:



This Captain Sayeed what qualification?

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This Captain Sayeed what qualification?
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hahaha, I am only unhappy with the fat CEO and the person assigned him to be the CEO. I am PAP supporter, nobody is perfect, just hope thing don' t repeat again, we still has a lot MNC under Temasek, instead of thinking how to make money, Temasek shall spend more time to look for suitable candidate to lead her baby in singapore. We can' t lose our identity anymore.

Sad sad to look at history of NOL from Wiki.

 

Building Singapore maritime industry[edit]



In 1968, the Singapore government requested the government of Pakistan for an expert to advise them on the formation of a shipping company. Sayeed was chosen for this task by the Pakistan, which the  Pakistan National Shipping Corporation  agreed to as well. In Singapore, Sayeed formed  Neptune Orient Lines(NOL) in 1969 and worked there until 1973. At the time of his departure, the then Prime Minister,  Lee Kuan Yew, wrote him the following farewell letter.[1]


&ldquo Thank you for your letter of September 7 telling me that you have decided to return to Pakistan. May I sincerely thank you for having helped NOL get on its feet. Your services were invaluable. Thank you for the kind and generous compliments you have paid to the people of Singapore, and for your good wishes to my wife, children and me. May I wish you an interesting and rewarding future as you move to new challenges. For a person of your years to find the time and interest in-between your duties to be able to write a note to me in Chinese demonstrates the triumph of an inquisitive mind and an indomitable spirit over hard challenges.&rdquo


During his career at NOL,  Goh Chok Tong  worked as a financial controller under him in NOL. After his death, Goh sent the following message to his wife Zareena[1]


" Captain Sayeed laid the keel for NOL and built it up into a reputable international line for which Singapore will always be grateful. None of us had ever run a shipping line and Captain Sayeed was patient in teaching us the ropes..."


Integrity      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 09:38) Posted:



It' s all part of the group lah, so obvious leh.

earlybird14      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 09:18) Posted:



hahaha, everything PAP. So PAP build NOL and sell NOL? 


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not any expert but what puzzles me is why they can tahan the company lose money for 5 years and then now sell off at a cheap....

if want to sell should have sold off long ago...maybe 1-2 years after they start losing moneyand realize they cannot turn it around

how come can tahan to let ceo remain and bleed money for five consecutive years

and best is now come out to champion and say this is a good deal and they did well...lol 
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