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AndyLoss Master	09-Dec-2015 22:41        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yup agreed... i think better to put this in FD for 6 months  jackson5      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 21:11) Posted: There are a few uncertainty with this transaction. but fews thing we are sure, they have the funds to go through, it is a simple transaction and temasek which holds more than 50% agree to sell so only problems are anti trust and whether offerer will go through they mentioned the combine business will be about 12%, hence anti trust should be ok, and  think the offeror will go through the deal, since so much effort had been put into it, and there is a 100 million fine. it is cheaper then 1.3 because they deal might takes many months . but it looks like a buy at price of 1.22, as it is a friendly takeover, and many parties are blessing the transaction .
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jackson5 Master	09-Dec-2015 21:11        jackson5 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There are a few uncertainty with this transaction. but fews thing we are sure, they have the funds to go through, it is a simple transaction and temasek which holds more than 50% agree to sell so only problems are anti trust and whether offerer will go through they mentioned the combine business will be about 12%, hence anti trust should be ok, and  think the offeror will go through the deal, since so much effort had been put into it, and there is a 100 million fine. it is cheaper then 1.3 because they deal might takes many months . but it looks like a buy at price of 1.22, as it is a friendly takeover, and many parties are blessing the transaction .
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halleluyah Supreme	09-Dec-2015 18:04        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yo...think most of them aredi cut n chop liao...lehman time, mkts crash teruk teruk.... Wolfman      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 18:01) Posted: Total Dividends yield for NOL from 2004-2015 is abt 100%. Investors who bought in 04 wouldn't make too much fuss abt the sale since they still make profits overall. those who bought at $4-$5 during 07-08 will be the ones crying
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	09-Dec-2015 18:01        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	how to put off ?  TH own 67% mojority AndyLoss      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:50) Posted: in AGM can the other shareholders be angry only...and cannot put off the deal is it ?? HazardKoh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:20) Posted: Unless shareholders vote againt it? but temasek has more than 50% right? or fail to gain regulatory approval? or parliament stops the sale of one of our icon to foreigners? etc... I think 80% chance of success vs 20% chance of failure .. So the 8 cents ($1.30-$1.22) is to award you for holding for a few mths with a 20% risk of deal failure.
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Wolfman Senior	09-Dec-2015 18:01        Wolfman About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Total Dividends yield for NOL from 2004-2015 is abt 100%. Investors who bought in 04 wouldn't make too much fuss abt the sale since they still make profits overall. those who bought at $4-$5 during 07-08 will be the ones crying
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AndyLoss Master	09-Dec-2015 17:50        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	in AGM can the other shareholders be angry only...and cannot put off the deal is it ?? HazardKoh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:20) Posted: Unless shareholders vote againt it? but temasek has more than 50% right? or fail to gain regulatory approval? or parliament stops the sale of one of our icon to foreigners? etc... I think 80% chance of success vs 20% chance of failure .. So the 8 cents ($1.30-$1.22) is to award you for holding for a few mths with a 20% risk of deal failure.   AndyLoss      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:14) Posted: i think there is a risk...of deal falling thru...either at AGM or due to some reason...then the stock will crash...
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	09-Dec-2015 17:35        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i believe he won' t dare to sue also cos if his lawyer send letter to EB then the case will alert public and everyone know that NOL manage business badly by then the team need to use their backside skin cover their face ....... feedfrenzy      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 14:12) Posted: I agree...will not sue lah.. if like that   almost everyone will get sued at one point of time     Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:58) Posted: Hmmmm, I' d be surprise if that' s how the law works.
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HazardKoh Master	09-Dec-2015 17:30        HazardKoh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Assuming a 90% success rate So if I buy at $1.22 , 90% i will earn 6.5% yield    (8 cents/$1.22 x 100%) 10% failure which i think share price will crash to $1 ? so 10% i will lose 18%  (22 cents/$1.22 x 100%)   So 90% chance of earning 6.5% after a few mths vs 10% chance of losing 18% after a few mths hmm...  haha... worth? halleluyah      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:26) Posted: my cimb broker told me 90% plus go thru....vry vry minor risk only....since mkts bad so tis is a gd opportunity to grab fr 6.5% return, hold 3-6mths dyodd.....   HazardKoh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:20) Posted: Unless shareholders vote againt it? but temasek has more than 50% right? or fail to gain regulatory approval? or parliament stops the sale of one of our icon to foreigners? etc... I think 80% chance of success vs 20% chance of failure .. So the 8 cents ($1.30-$1.22) is to award you for holding for a few mths with a 20% risk of deal failure.
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lglg666 Supreme	09-Dec-2015 17:28        lglg666 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The return of 6.5% over 6 months is pretty good. halleluyah      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:26) Posted: my cimb broker told me 90% plus go thru....vry vry minor risk only....since mkts bad so tis is a gd opportunity to grab fr 6.5% return, hold 3-6mths dyodd.....   HazardKoh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:20) Posted: Unless shareholders vote againt it? but temasek has more than 50% right? or fail to gain regulatory approval? or parliament stops the sale of one of our icon to foreigners? etc... I think 80% chance of success vs 20% chance of failure .. So the 8 cents ($1.30-$1.22) is to award you for holding for a few mths with a 20% risk of deal failure.
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halleluyah Supreme	09-Dec-2015 17:26        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	my cimb broker told me 90% plus go thru....vry vry minor risk only....since mkts bad so tis is a gd opportunity to grab fr 6.5% return, hold 3-6mths dyodd.....   HazardKoh      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:20) Posted: Unless shareholders vote againt it? but temasek has more than 50% right? or fail to gain regulatory approval? or parliament stops the sale of one of our icon to foreigners? etc... I think 80% chance of success vs 20% chance of failure .. So the 8 cents ($1.30-$1.22) is to award you for holding for a few mths with a 20% risk of deal failure.   AndyLoss      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:14) Posted: i think there is a risk...of deal falling thru...either at AGM or due to some reason...then the stock will crash...
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KAMAL0883 Supreme	09-Dec-2015 17:25        KAMAL0883 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	in Singapore everything go by law ... : ( Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:58) Posted: Hmmmm, I' d be surprise if that' s how the law works.  KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:16) Posted: " In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst....... " In year of 1995 NOL drop to about $0.40 but no one accuse the CEO so this guy can still sue EB for misleading and damage his reputation because the current share price above $1.00 still better than some previous CEO....
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HazardKoh Master	09-Dec-2015 17:20        HazardKoh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Unless shareholders vote againt it? but temasek has more than 50% right? or fail to gain regulatory approval? or parliament stops the sale of one of our icon to foreigners? etc... I think 80% chance of success vs 20% chance of failure .. So the 8 cents ($1.30-$1.22) is to award you for holding for a few mths with a 20% risk of deal failure.   AndyLoss      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 17:14) Posted: i think there is a risk...of deal falling thru...either at AGM or due to some reason...then the stock will crash.... polarinda      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 15:00) Posted: why isn' t 122 gobbled up? put in 1 mil and wait for 80k..not bad if u ask me.
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AndyLoss Master	09-Dec-2015 17:14        AndyLoss About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i think there is a risk...of deal falling thru...either at AGM or due to some reason...then the stock will crash.... polarinda      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 15:00) Posted: why isn' t 122 gobbled up? put in 1 mil and wait for 80k..not bad if u ask me.
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famouspinky Supreme	09-Dec-2015 16:10        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	See you in Oxxc thread:)
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sgng123 Supreme	09-Dec-2015 16:06        sgng123 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	guys be more positive, currently NOL is locked in this price range till we get closer to the unconditional date june 2016, and most likely approval for the anti trust agency would come down in Mar/Apr and most likely those who still holding would get their offer letter. Just sign off and wait for money to credit back to ur account, no need to pay ur stupid broker fee and get ur self some nice stuff with it. Even if STI go into bear market this period, NOL still get their 1.30 offer bid so it kind of trade off. USe ur NOL money to buy more high quality STI stock if STI go into bear market , that way the oain is more or less smoothen. THe chance of STI slipping into bear bear market is getting higher by the day, Brent oil just crash below US40 and soon those energy companies that borrow a lot would default, sending shockwave to banks who leand to them which in turn emerging market sell off which would lasts for months. When oil drop below 40, it get scary by the day just which energy company would default to trigger the massive emergingmarket selloff.
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rawlow1945 Senior	09-Dec-2015 15:39        rawlow1945 About Contact  Quote this Post!   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ha...that' s what i am thinking. But, still didn' t dare to put so much. waiting until approve by everyone, then will buy more.   polarinda      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 15:00) Posted: why isn' t 122 gobbled up? put in 1 mil and wait for 80k..not bad if u ask me.
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polarinda Master	09-Dec-2015 15:00        polarinda About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	why isn' t 122 gobbled up? put in 1 mil and wait for 80k..not bad if u ask me.
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feedfrenzy Veteran	09-Dec-2015 14:12        feedfrenzy About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I agree...will not sue lah.. if like that   almost everyone will get sued at one point of time     Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:58) Posted: Hmmmm, I' d be surprise if that' s how the law works.  KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:16) Posted: " In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst....... " In year of 1995 NOL drop to about $0.40 but no one accuse the CEO so this guy can still sue EB for misleading and damage his reputation because the current share price above $1.00 still better than some previous CEO....
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Qanghoo Supreme	09-Dec-2015 13:58        Qanghoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hmmmm, I' d be surprise if that' s how the law works.  KAMAL0883      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:16) Posted: " In 2008, NOL was planning to buy Hapag LLyod, in 2015, NOL was force sold to CMA. just a very short 7 years, NOL had chance to be the top 4, but in 2015 became top 13, just consider international liner, this rank is actually last few, after the replacement with CEO, Ng, thing just went worst and worst....... " In year of 1995 NOL drop to about $0.40 but no one accuse the CEO so this guy can still sue EB for misleading and damage his reputation because the current share price above $1.00 still better than some previous CEO.... Qanghoo      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 11:51) Posted: From my reading, there doesn' t seem to be any damaging of reputation.  Appears factual to me.
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halleluyah Supreme	09-Dec-2015 13:54        halleluyah About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	agreed wth u...am still accumulate... rawlow1945      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 13:25) Posted: Totally agree on this. it seems risks is not too high. Personally, i am queueing at 1.215 & bought a bit more at 1.22 MIght better than buying any blue chip stocks at the moment Integrity      ( Date: 09-Dec-2015 11:49) Posted: Buy $1.22 with returns of $0.08 is good for those with cash and can hold till mid 2016. Minimal risk and high yield, better than bank FD in my opinion.
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