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3 BIG Spore banks ....:))
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FATABA
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13-Feb-2023 14:10
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DBS n OCBC were both reported to have some exposure. I think DBS shld be the larger one
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13-Feb-2023 14:08
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gosh..is OCBC affected also?
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FATABA
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13-Feb-2023 14:06
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DBS Reveals $976 Million Adani Exposure, Assured by Cashflows
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FATABA
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13-Feb-2023 13:57
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By now everyone know DBS has given out an excellent full year result .  ROE 15% wow, dividend up 42c per qtr and a special bonus of 50c.  Which means ( if no more special bonus in 2023 ) dbs is still offering a yield of 4.7% @35.50 and if 50c special included ,6.1% yield  1. Interest rate is NOT going to come down in all of 2023 and EVEN if qtr point rise wld mean higher NIM for DBS 2. China opening just started , DBS shld benefit for all of 2023 .  3. DBS can still afford to pay out the 42c per qtr dividend and barring any major global issue, there should be a special bonus next year.  In short the knee jerk reaction cld be due to Adani news in India or even some bb pushing it down to accumulate.  Analyse report will be out in the coming days from all the broking houses....wonder who would write a negative report .....in fact most have forcast of TP 36 or more  I suggest serious investor ...take a hard look at ALL 3 banks , and DYODD  W DBS confirmation of better dividend and result .....UOB and OCBC will follow . wld there be better ...hmm ?  In the meantime ...await DBS 92c for those DBS investor . Happy investing.  |
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Adrianinsing
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10-Feb-2023 12:51
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One of the best chartists here is Wavehunter
He kindly gave me his chart analysis on DBS on The Trading Floor chat This is it regarding DBS I see a New High in the making. I have seen the monkey in this counter many times. He sibeh hiong one. When he push, he will boh phar leow lee one and drive his bulldozer past every traffic light and every zebra crossing. If you are on the same side as him, DBS for you will stand for Damn Blardy $ONG ar. If you are on the opposite side to him, DBS for you will stand for Damn Blardy SHIT ar |
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FATABA
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10-Feb-2023 10:58
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Pls allow me to give an update on our banks ( before Monday DBS result )  Yes I think all 3 banks will be doing ok , BUT not to some expectation of record profit or 80c dividend from DBS.  Dbs should be having a good set of result n 40c dividend ( any special dividend will be a valentine gift. ) It 3.6B nett income 1H put it on good footing . However not sure how much bad loans  on its book ( LV bank situation in India etc)  OCBC have a great 1H of 2.8B nett income and should be going strong ...ONLY concern is the MTM figure from GE input ( result 22nd )  UOB is the weakest BUT surprise might come in w VISA figures added in . NOTE : has all the extra dividend talk factor into their run away prices ? IS DBS 1.7X book justified ?  Answer will somehow be known by Monday when market opens n react to DBS result  Good luck
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CheeryVGoh
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06-Feb-2023 13:28
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Fataba, Ya should not be a big issue. Market took this news as a dampener. The posts for this thread become elongated.....  |
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CheeryVGoh
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06-Feb-2023 13:25
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Ya should not be a big issue. Market took this news as a dampener.
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FATABA
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06-Feb-2023 13:20
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Thanks for the input ...if it is this S$20m that is concerned ...then should not be a big issue to OCBC . Well covered by its provision.  Dyodd
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CheeryVGoh
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06-Feb-2023 11:46
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THE  Indonesian arm of OCBC Bank filed a police report against a billionaire owner of cigarette-maker PT Gudang Garam. PT Bank OCBC NISP filed the report against Susilo Wonowidjojo, an owner and president director of Gudang Garam, on fraud allegations relating to some 232 billion rupiah (S$20 million) in troubled loans, the lender&rsquo s lawyer Hasbi Setiawan said in a statement on Friday (Feb 3).  The bank disbursed the loan in 2016 to a wig-making company owned by Wonowidjojo&rsquo s family, Setiawan added. The case involves a total of one trillion rupiah of funds when including loans from other lenders, he said.  
A representative for Gudang Garam didn&rsquo t immediately respond to requests for comment and calls to the company&rsquo s office were not answered. Gudang Garam shares fell 5.7 per cent on Friday in their biggest drop since Jan 5, ending a four-day gain of nearly 16 per cent. OCBC NISP shares gained 1.3 per cent.  BLOOMBERG |
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Echoes
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06-Feb-2023 11:31
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As far as I can remember , all 3 banks post their quarterly results before market opens . Yes I expect good dividens from all 3 with yields of 4.5% min in order to match the high interest rates . The increased profits from NIMs actually kicked in only in 3rd and 4th qtr of 2022 after FED' s first increase in Mar 22 . And with FED seems to be indicating that they will maintain the rates in 2023 , this year may be even better for the banks provided the high interest environment does not significantly slows down the economy . Hopefully with DBS taking the lead in results announcement they will report a good one as the other 2 banks that follows suits may be compelled to match DBS' s  result . Happy investing . |
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06-Feb-2023 11:27
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DBS needs to pay more dividends, after the end of dividend caps. Instead of conserving cash, they went out to buy an Indian bank instead.
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FATABA
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06-Feb-2023 10:41
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All 3 banks are reporting their result in coming days .  DBS 13rd Feb before mkt opens  UOB 23rd before mkt opens n OCBC 24th before mkt open  ( all are before mkt opens ...cld it mean all are ready for mkt to react to their full year result ? lol  1. 9 mths already show continue growth and good result esp their AUM growth . So it is a matter of how well it is for full year.  2. W rising rate, NIM is confirm to be much better for all 3 banks ( those w housing loan will know what increases are we talking about ) . All 3 banks should hv well managed NPL  3. HIGH chance of improve dividend payout ( all 3 banks are aro or below 50% payout ratio.  expect Dbs to be 38/40c per qtr , OCBC 30/33c and UOB 65/70 ( OCBC n UOB are half yrly) ( UOB may hv a surprise IF the integration of Visa is done well n contribute in Q4 )  DYODD  Happy investing.    |
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Adrianinsing
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06-Feb-2023 10:04
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Yes both might have collateral in India but I think insignificant impact at worst
Both banks are buys now with easily imminent
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FATABA
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04-Feb-2023 17:30
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Dbs n Ocbc were listed as 2 Spore banks w some loan colatorol in India .  Just hope the amount is not big .  However, I think DBS will still have sufficent $$ for a special or higher dividend ( as payout ration is still below 50% or aro there )  LV Bank /Adani is definately not over yet. Let see how this turn out  Good luck 
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Adrianinsing
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03-Feb-2023 17:49
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Highly unlikely but thanks for your viewpoint.
DBS is making enough money hand over fist in so many disperse and varied areas that it will probably announce a record profit growth along with the dividend and special dividend - we can not underestimate the brilliance and exceptional leadership of the CEO Piyush Gupta. Gupta could manage a far larger bank and Singapore and DBS is very lucky to have him - granting Gupta SIngapore Citizenship was a stroke of genius by the Singapore Government- Gupta is exactly what Singapore needs going toward.
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CheeryVGoh
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03-Feb-2023 17:41
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Maybe DBS as tookover distressed Lakshmi Vilas Bank in 2020 ? DBS yty big drop might be partly due to DBS India exposure.
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CheeryVGoh
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03-Feb-2023 17:23
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That' s see if CIMB is ZhunQue or not. So hold them tight....    UOB to &lsquo lead the pack&rsquo when Singapore banks report 4QFY2022 results in February: CGS-CIMB
Jovi HoMon, Jan 30, 2023   
In all, CGS-CIMB expects DBS to pay out 45 cents DPS in 4QFY2022, compared to 36 cents the year prior, as well as a hike in FY2023&rsquo s ordinary dividends. OCBC - They expect 32 cents DPS for 4QFY2022, up from 28 cents the year prior.   UOB could report higher credit costs for 4QFY2022 as it updates collateral values on existing NPLs, say Choong and Lim. &ldquo UOB&rsquo s 50% dividend payout ratio translates into 90 cents DPS in 4QFY2022, up from 60 cents the year prior.  
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Adrianinsing
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03-Feb-2023 17:14
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Yes - many international and national fund managers are now speculating that DBS is the most likely and indeed highly likely to award and announce a SPECIAL DIVIDEND DBS on Monday next week ( 13 Feb) when results come out.
As Lim and Tan points out ( quote) management has previously acknowledged its capacity to return more capital to shareholders and pay more dividends, with dividend changes typically carried out at the year-end. |
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FATABA
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03-Feb-2023 16:34
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Singapore banks have ' ample capital' for higher dividends in FY2022: DBS![]() Jovi HoFri, Feb 03, 2023  &bull   02:34 PM GMT+08  &bull   7 minutes ago  &bull   4  min read
![]() Singapore' s three banks will report results for FY2022 ended December from mid-February. Photo: Bloomberg
 
Singapore banks have ample capital for higher dividends, so keep watch for upcoming dividends in their FY2022 ended December results arriving from mid-February, writes DBS Group Research analyst Lim Rui Wen. In a Feb 1 note, Lim maintains &ldquo positive&rdquo on Singapore banks, with &ldquo buy&rdquo calls on United Overseas Bank (UOB) and Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC) and target prices of $34.20 and $15 respectively. &ldquo DBS management has previously acknowledged its capacity to return more capital to shareholders and pay more dividends, with dividend changes typically carried out at the year-end,&rdquo says Lim. Lim adds: &ldquo Though OCBC does not have a track record of giving out special dividends, its common equity tier-1 (CET-1) ratio of 14.4% as at 3QFY2022 represents ample capacity to pay higher dividends.&rdquo Net interest margin (NIM) expansion will start to moderate during 4QFY2022, says Lim. &ldquo 3QFY2022 NIMs reached high watermark levels, as the interest rate hikes were the highest seen in two decades. Singapore banks&rsquo NIM expansion will start to moderate from 4QFY2022 amid an ongoing repricing of deposits, as CASA [current account, savings account] and fixed deposits both saw big increases during the quarter.&rdquo UOB will see NIM uplift from the consolidation of Citi, says Lim. &ldquo DBS/OCBC/UOB saw 32bps/35bps/28bps q-o-q expansions during 3QFY2022 to 1.90%/2.06%/1.95%, a high watermark for Singapore banks in the last two decades as interest rates continue to be on the rise.&rdquo See also:  UOB to ' lead the pack' when Singapore banks report 4QFY2022 results in February: CGS-CIMB A &ldquo faster-than-expected&rdquo increase in the cost of deposits will be the key critical factor to watch in our opinion, says Lim. &ldquo Nonetheless, Singapore banks continue to be beneficiaries of the rate hikes, with improving NIMs.&rdquo Credit costs normalising The credit environment has continued to be largely benign, says Lim, as economies re-emerge from the pandemic. See also:  Analysts continue to like local banks but warn of slower growth OCBC guided during its 3QFY2022 results for 15-20 basis points (bps) credit costs for FY2022, implying 30 bps credit costs in 4QFY2022, notes Lim. &ldquo However, we believe actual credit costs will be lower than the guidance. We expect some provisions to be booked in 4QFY2022 across the banks, including general provisions for macroeconomic variable updates and/or specific provisions.&rdquo Lim believes resilient earnings performance and a good dividend yield of 5%, with the potential for higher dividends, will continue to support valuations in FY2023. &ldquo We expect sector earnings growth of 10% with prudent cost management. Singapore banks continue to have a high provisions buffer to cushion any unexpected credit deterioration should a sharper-than-expected economic slowdown play out.&rdquo Cost of funds ticks up Cost of funds ticked up more significantly during 4Q22, notes Lim. &ldquo There have been more significant increases of more than 100 bps for Singapore banks&rsquo fixed deposit rates during 4QFY2022, in part contributing to some of the CASA outflow.&rdquo DBS, OCBC and UOB also raised interest rates on their flagship CASA accounts by up to 60 bps, 280 bps and 285 bps respectively during 4QFY2022. As such, a faster pace in the rise of the cost of deposits will start to show, says Lim. &ldquo The CASA ratio has declined across Singapore banks and the trend will continue into 4QFY2022, as the banks also continue to see CASA outflow to alternative higher yielding instruments such as fixed deposits, T-bills, and Singapore Savings Bonds, among others.&rdquo Thus a &ldquo faster-than-expected increase&rdquo in the cost of deposits will be the key critical factor to watch, says Lim. See also:  Singapore banks continue to gain from high interest rates, new Asean supply chains: UOB Kay Hian Loan growth likely weak Across the banking system, November 2022 continued to see loan growth decline by 1.9% m-o-m, after declining 2.5% m-o-m in October 2022. While Singapore banks have grown their loan books ahead of the industry&rsquo s growth, Lim believes some of the pullback is in part due to the paying down of loans amid the higher interest rate environment on top of more cautious demand. As of 3QFY2022, year-to-date loan growth across DBS, OCBC and UOB are 4.9%, 4.5% and 4.1% respectively. &ldquo We expect 4QFY2022 loan growth across Singapore banks to be weak and believe loans will grow at a mid-single-digit rate going into FY2023.&rdquo Non-interest income is likely weak due to seasonal effects, adds Lim. &ldquo We expect 4QFY2022 non-interest income to be weaker q-o-q, driven by seasonal effects contributing to the weakness of wealth management income, partially offset by improved card fees.&rdquo Lim notes that UOB had an &ldquo exceptional&rdquo trading quarter of $370 million during 3QFY2022. &ldquo We expect this to normalise during 4QFY2022 to the $200 million levels as previously guided for. Further, [OCBC 87%-owned subsidiary] Great Eastern Holdings is likely to see a negative mark-to-market impact from its bond portfolio due to yield movements.&rdquo As at 2.33pm, shares in DBS are trading 31 cents higher, or 0.88% up, at $35.39 while shares in UOB are trading 35 cents higher, or 1.18% up, at $29.98 and shares in OCBC are trading 6 cents higher, or 0.47% up, at $12.94. |
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