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luckyguy3
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23-Jul-2023 12:56
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Ur accusation of the Edge is with ill intent or is ur accusation backed up with some proof? This is a serious accusation by the way.  
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Jyilailong
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23-Jul-2023 09:57
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Have the voting letters sent out or is it e-voting? I need to do my contribution to change needed.  | ||
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RumbaRambo
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23-Jul-2023 09:16
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Haha. The Edge.... Seems to me a fully-fledged ESR mouthpiece. |
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mrwise
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23-Jul-2023 08:22
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Support your view!  Time to change manager!
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sangsang1
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22-Jul-2023 22:45
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What blank cheque? internal manager is owned by all shareholders. internalisation takes away the blank cheque from ESR. no more fees and profit to them. just look at the blank cheque that ara us hospitality and esr reit unitholders give to esr. we say no thank you at sabana reit. ![]() ![]()
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Alcus-Trader
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22-Jul-2023 22:33
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Just vote according to what u think is right ba... End of the day, is your shares, you decide. Wish all the best to us and Sabana REIT. :D | ||
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RumbaRambo
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22-Jul-2023 22:27
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Because someone has to take the initiative. In Australia initiative mostly has come from the top, same in US. No clue why it hasn' t happed in Singapore yet, but someone as to take the intitiative. We should thank Quarz for doing that. I don' t think many risks involved. Trustee can and will make sure new internal structure will only start when all questions (e.g. removal of manager clause) are answered. Until that happens, no uncertainty: Current manager keeps working and is overseen by trustee. And once resolutions are accepted, trustee will make it happen. Also, I think fears of current manager being left unstaffed are overblown. Managing a REIT might not be easy, but it' s also not rocket science. Singapore has many experienced people to step in and act as middle and senior management. 
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sangsang1
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22-Jul-2023 22:23
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The edge earns ad money from esr mah.. manager also wants shareholders to keep paying them fees...  cannot trust la...
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Huchin
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22-Jul-2023 22:17
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For whatever reason during the last takeover  and now also establishment is on ESR side even though they tried to rip off unitholders! |
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sangsang1
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22-Jul-2023 21:53
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Agreed. Would take what the Edge say with a pinch of salt. Quality of The Edge has dropped alot.  They wrote alot of good things about Esr Reit and Manulife us reit. see where their price is now.  Yes, also remembered The edge very pro merger of Sabana and ESR reit Article only write what the manager view. Is it a paid for article by the manager, or not?  i have cut my subscription.  shareholder should vote for their the resolutions to improve share price and dpu. Stop listening to the nonsense from the manager  |
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gohmengt
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22-Jul-2023 21:20
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theEdge is mouthpiece of esr obviously?...like last time, old lady so smart saying vote for merger, its great lah!!! Look now, same same, now I always do opposite what theEdge say,...
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cychu69
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22-Jul-2023 20:43
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I have alrd instructed my bank to vote for all the resolutions | ||
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sealTeam3
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22-Jul-2023 19:55
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Anyway the edge has been doing youtubes and events for esr reit despite their price keep coming down.
Wonder how much money they make from esr reit for the youtube and events? 😁 |
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sealTeam3
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22-Jul-2023 19:53
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Aiyo.. Clearly scare tactics.. even the article stated internalization costs 3-5 million.. of course the manager scared to be removed la.. and of course ESR scared of losing its manager la..
Look at what they did during the last failed merger.. they were telling how scary and uncertain it would be if the merger dont happen.. now we all huat huat and at much higher price than esr!! I VOTE FOR internalization!! 😁 |
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GoldenPig
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22-Jul-2023 19:14
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5-10 years for DPU to recover! That' s what I guesstimated and feared.
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RumbaRambo
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22-Jul-2023 15:43
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Hahahaha. Look at Australia. They have done internlisation many times. Always easy transition. Never has been a big problem. And now in Singapore, all of a sudden it' s the end of the world? Come on!!!!! 
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RumbaRambo
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22-Jul-2023 14:37
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I think during public fight and before requisition very difficult to find people to stick out their neck and say they are ready to step in as new manager of Sabana. Just too controversial. Also I think the comparison not overly apt: It us much more difficult to to find new manger (with enough reputation) to manage premier league team than for a SG industrial REIT. Much easier to set up new management team for Sabana. Quarz might already have a few names up their sleeve. But who would come forward now and say " I' ll be the CEO and CIO in waiting." ? Sabana is not Arsenal.... 
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sangsang1
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22-Jul-2023 13:18
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of course quartz will help trustee to form manager, they will help to make the process faster, they have money at stake. they already say they will help and the manager will be owned by all shareholders. and it will not take 1 year la.. just look at how fast all the new reits are formed and ipo now mas say cms license application take 4-6 mths. they will probably make it faster for sabana as they want this to succeed. If this succeed, singapore reit market also suceed. trustee just want to disclaim mah.. cos they know shareholders will push them to work faster. but need to vote for removing and make the trustee internalize first, once the approval from shareholders to go ahead, then things can move fast ![]()
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sangsang1
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22-Jul-2023 13:12
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dont be fooled by the manager who wants to keep collecting fees from unitholders process is already super clear.    ![]() ![]() once manager is voted out, the manager has to stay on until the new manager is formed, licensed and ready to go. this is mas regulated, so the old manager cannot play punk lots of excess people in the reit space due to mergers. some reits like Mapletree pan asia and esr logos even have 2 ceos and 2 cfos.... alot of the reits who are not doing well also cutting once new manager is formed, most of the old employees will shift over. old manager will close shop because no activities already and have to fire everyone. Its just that easy, but the manager of course want to tell u its difficult and complicated la, otherwise how they earn fees from you? if u do yourself, they no money to earn even mas and sgx all keeping quiet because they all super confident as they are the one who have set up the process manager try to confuse shareholders, but we not stupid la |
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Joelton
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22-Jul-2023 12:42
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Sabana Reit manager says &lsquo no assurance&rsquo staff will stay if EGM resolutions passed
 
THERE is &ldquo no assurance or certainty&rdquo that existing staff of Sabana Industrial Reit&rsquo s : M1GU +1.18%manager would be willing to stay on if resolutions at the extraordinary general meeting (EGM) requisitioned by Quarz Capital are passed, given the uncertainties during the interim period.
 
Sabana Real Estate Investment Management (SREIM) made this point in the EGM circular published on Friday (Jul 21), even as it noted that the manager will comply with its obligations under the relevant law, including providing &ldquo reasonable assistance&rdquo to the trustee during the interim period.
 
Donald Han, chief executive of SREIM, noted at a media briefing on Friday that staff with work experience in a capital markets services (CMS) licensee are &ldquo well sought after&rdquo by other real estate investment trusts (Reits), funds and family offices.
 
&ldquo We can&rsquo t stop people from leaving, but, again, we will do our best,&rdquo he said.
 
Sabana Reit said it will hold an EGM on Aug 7 for unitholders to vote on two ordinary resolutions: to remove SREIM as the manager and direct the trustee to internalise the Reit&rsquo s management function.
 
There will be no option for unitholders to participate virtually, the Reit manager said.
 
Activist investor Quarz requisitioned the EGM in June, rationalising that internalisation of the manager would bring benefits to unitholders by providing cost savings once the external manager is removed.
 
But Sabana Reit&rsquo s sponsor and largest unitholder, ESR Group, called Quarz &ldquo highly reckless and irresponsible&rdquo for not providing any plans for the management of the Reit should its resolutions pass.
 
Based on the EGM circular, if SREIM and/or the property manager are unable to retain their staff and lose their capability to serve as the manager or property manager of the Reit during the interim period, the responsibility of managing Sabana Reit and its properties would potentially fall onto the trustee, or professional advisers the trustee appoints.
 
&ldquo The longer it takes for the trustee to implement and effect the change, the greater the risk to the ongoing viability of Sabana Industrial Reit,&rdquo the circular indicated.
 
The trustee for Sabana Reit noted that a considerable amount of time &ndash expected to be at least 12 months and potentially significantly longer &ndash and costs would be required to internalise the Reit management function.
 
The steps required include obtaining a relevant CMS licence from the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) for the new internal or external manager. Fees, costs and expenses from professional advisers that the trustee appoints would also be reimbursed out of the assets of Sabana Reit.
 
In Sabana Reit&rsquo s first-half results released this week, independent auditors EY flagged a material uncertainty that &ldquo may cast significant doubt&rdquo on the Reit&rsquo s ability to continue as a going concern depending on the outcome of the EGM.
 
The removal of SREIM as the manager would trigger the removal of a manager clause that constitutes a review event under various unsecured facilities.
 
The potential consequences of removing the manager represent a &ldquo real risk&rdquo , and are not a &ldquo scare tactic&rdquo , Han said on Friday.
 
ESR Group had earlier proposed the internalisation resolution be tabled as an extraordinary resolution instead of an ordinary one, as it effectively amounts to an amendment to the trust deed.
 
However, Quarz noted that an extraordinary resolution would raise the bar required for shareholder approval &ndash from a majority to at least 75 per cent of those voting.
 
The ordinary resolutions at the EGM on Aug 7 will require a simple majority from unitholders.
 
Earlier this week, Quarz clarified a &ldquo typographical error&rdquo in its EGM requisition notice.
 
It previously said an increase in the dividend amount would mainly come from &ldquo cost savings of about S$7.25 million&rdquo of fees and net profit that unitholders pay to the external manager and the shareholder.
 
Quarz clarified that it meant that a higher dividend would come from &ldquo cost savings from the S$7.25 million&rdquo of fees and net profit that unitholders currently pay to the external manager and its shareholder.
 
Quarz is the third-largest unitholder in Sabana Reit after ESR Group and Volare Group. It has a 14 per cent stake worth around S$66.4 million, based on a unit price of S$0.43.
 
Its website stated that the activist investor is a registered fund management company (RFMC) in Singapore. MAS regulations indicate that the total value of assets an RFMC can manage must not exceed S$250 million.
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