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Adrianinsing
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11-Jan-2023 15:12
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Yes  As time passes it appear increasingly   likely that bad decisions were made by SATS management around the time of the announcement of the deal with WFS and that half information has been   provided to shareholders. I would give benefit of the doubt here to SATS management and would say it is just incompetence with no intent. I do not want to invest in incompetence- I am withdrawing all my investment in SATS as we have no idea what the next shoe to drop is. 
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investshare
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11-Jan-2023 14:43
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Now question is this:
1. Did management make decision based on the wrong assumption? 2. What other wrong information or assumptions made ? |
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Adrianinsing
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11-Jan-2023 14:33
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Unfortunately I fear they will vote YES to accept the deal 
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Adrianinsing
Elite |
11-Jan-2023 14:32
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Yes definitely- but only if the majority vote NO on 18th January 2023
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rlong8288
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11-Jan-2023 13:43
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can it still rally to 3 dollar ?????
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Adrianinsing
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11-Jan-2023 13:31
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After the poor SATS disclosure I regard   SATS as a liability and plan to sell into any rally 
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desmodeus
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11-Jan-2023 13:25
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investshare
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11-Jan-2023 13:04
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Only few months already start the sob story, imagine one year down the road. | ||||
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Adrianinsing
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11-Jan-2023 12:19
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Yes you are correct
Total garbage It is a total disgrace
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Adrianinsing
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11-Jan-2023 12:17
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I totally agree - what on earth are they based upon ?
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Adrianinsing
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11-Jan-2023 12:14
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TRUST is essential in business and SATS is no different - shareholders rely on total transparency FROM THE START- not retrospective transparency.
For SATS to now provide pro forma net profit and EPS numbers that are quite different from its original announcement on the deal is really unforgivable much as I want to be positive. |
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Adrianinsing
Elite |
11-Jan-2023 11:55
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I had previously thought that SATS would rally even on a YES decision    That was before the below information came to light    Now with this new information it is binary:- A NO win means share price rallies substantially  A YES win means that the share price drops   / plunges      Sats-WFS deal: Pro forma financials in circular show lower immediate boost to earnings, EPS
SINCE announcing plans to acquire Worldwide Flight Services more than three months ago, Sats has consistently said the & ldquo transformational& rdquo deal will make it more resilient and unlock significant growth potential.
     
But information provided by the in-flight caterer and ground handler about the immediate financial impact of the transaction has since been updated.
     
When Sats unveiled the S$1.8 billion acquisition of WFS on Sep 28 last year, it said in a statement that the deal would boost its earnings per share (EPS) for the financial year to Mar 31, 2022 by 78 per cent on a pro forma basis.
     
The pro forma financial effects of the deal provided in the initial announcement showed its net profit for FY2022 would rise from S$20 million to S$56 million (including amortisation of intangible assets), while its EPS would rise from 1.8 Singapore cents to 3.2 Singapore cents.
     
This was based on the assumption that Sats raises S$1.7 billion through a rights issue of 609 million new shares at S$2.79 each & ndash which the company quickly began insisting would not actually happen.
     
On Oct 3, 2022, Sats said no decision had been made on the funding structure for the WFS acquisition. Three days later, The Business Times quoted Sats chief executive Kerry Mok saying that any rights issue by the company would be much smaller than S$1.7 billion.
     
On Dec 1, 2022, Sats said it had finalised its funding plan. The company now plans to raise S$800 million through a rights issue some time in Q1 2023. It will raise a further S$700 million through a term loan, and put S$320 million of its existing cash balances towards the deal.
     
What does all this mean for investors? On Jan 3, 2023, Sats said in a circular to its shareholders that the acquisition of WFS would result in a significant & ldquo step change& rdquo in its revenue and Ebitda (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation).
     
But Sats also provided pro forma net profit and EPS numbers that are quite different from its original announcement on the deal.
     
The company& rsquo s FY2022 net profit now rises from S$20 million to only S$28 million (including amortisation of intangible assets) its EPS rises less than 6 per cent, from 1.8 Singapore cents to 1.9 Singapore cents.
     
Sats has also now included pro forma earnings numbers that include adjustments to the target group& rsquo s financial statements to bring them in line with Singapore Financial Reporting Standards (International).
     
Including the SFRS(I) changes, the company& rsquo s pro forma FY2022 net profit actually falls from S$20 million to minus S$16 million (including amortisation of intangible assets). Its pro forma EPS falls from 1.8 Singapore cents to minus 1.1 Singapore cents.
     
Interestingly, the circular includes financial numbers for WFS not disclosed in the original announcement & ndash numbers that show WFS fell into net losses during the first three quarters of 2022. On the face of it, the pro forma earnings numbers for Sats might have been even worse if they were prepared for the six-month period to Sep 30, 2022.
     
Increased interest expense
When asked why the pro forma FY2022 net profit and EPS in its circular were lower than in the initial announcement, Sats replied that its finalised funding structure now includes a certain amount of debt.
     
& ldquo Taking on S$700 million of debt under the term loan will result in increased interest expense, thus reducing the pro forma net profit as disclosed in the circular,& rdquo it told BT.
     
& ldquo In view of the cash-generative nature of the businesses, Sats is confident that it will be able to deleverage and meet its debt commitments, with the potential free cash flows that will be generated from the combined businesses,& rdquo the company added.
     
Sats noted that the debt load will reduce the cash call on its shareholders. & ldquo This achieves a balanced mix of debt and equity, and a reasonable overall cost of capital. In addition, the reduced size of the proposed rights issue enables more minority shareholders to fully participate in funding part of the acquisition and avoid being diluted.& rdquo   
     
Why were the SFRS(I) adjustments, which have the effect of lowering the pro forma net profit and EPS figures, not included in the original announcement? Sats said the computation was & ldquo a major and complex undertaking& rdquo that was not appropriate for presentation at the time.
     
Sats added that it was not required to include the SFRS(I) adjustments in the circular, but it voluntarily did so. The company also stressed that the adjustments have no bearing on the cash flow of the target group.
     
As for its pro forma earnings numbers not fully reflecting WFS falling into losses in the first three quarters of 2023, Sats said it was required to prepare pro forma financials based on its latest audited financial year-end & ndash which was Mar 31, 2022.
     
It also pointed out that the recent losses at WFS were largely due to unrealised foreign-exchange losses against its senior secured notes and other one-off items.
     
Share price slump
When Sats announced the acquisition of WFS last year, its share price promptly sank. This was attributed to a lack of clarity about the company& rsquo s fundraising plans, as well as doubts that the deal would result in as much of an EPS uplift as suggested by the pro forma estimates that were provided.
     
The circular published on Jan 3, 2023 now suggests that the pro forma net profit and EPS numbers in the initial announcement were indeed overly optimistic, and that the deal might even be initially dilutive for Sats& rsquo earnings.
     
Moreover, it seems clear the finalised funding structure that Sats announced on Dec 1, 2022 had significant implications for its pro forma earnings numbers & ndash which is perhaps why its stock price did not recover even after it & ldquo reduced& rdquo the size of the rights issue.
     
Shareholders of Sats planning to vote on the proposed acquisition of WFS at the extraordinary general meeting scheduled for Jan 18, 2023 should carefully consider all the information contained in the circular.
     
They should perhaps also keep in mind that the recent trajectory of Sats& rsquo share price has been an accurate barometer of the financial implications of the deal.
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FrancisLim
Elite |
11-Jan-2023 11:54
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We comment on the reports only,  Where there are any shortfalls in the disclosures, we can highlight in the forum for members' clarifications and if relevant to pose the questions in the coming EGM. We do not cross the line to imply otherwise.  Esp not for SATS.  |
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kiseki_2818
Master |
11-Jan-2023 11:50
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agree with u.
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Adrianinsing
Elite |
11-Jan-2023 11:47
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I have decided that the WFS deal is an atrocious deal for SATS and shareholders  I voted NO for the deal  The only hope now is that the deal gets shot down and NO wins If so the share price rebounds If not then the future looks bleak  |
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Adrianinsing
Elite |
11-Jan-2023 11:25
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Being objective The only thing I do not like about these revaluations is that it may seem to skeptics that SATS has been deliberately hiding things and not being transparent.
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FrancisLim
Elite |
11-Jan-2023 11:12
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The report also showed that WFS had been in the red for more than one quarter. The group reported a net loss of 91.3 million euros for the nine months to Sep 30, versus a net profit of 52.4 million euros for the same period the previous year. Its revenue for the nine months was up 52.7 per cent year on year (yoy) to 1,455.8 million euros.
 
 
" It also pointed out that the recent losses at WFS were largely due to unrealised foreign-exchange losses against its senior secured notes and other one-off items."
A variety of factors being enumerated over the adverse quarterly results: " Among the factors that contributed to reduced profitability at WFS were increased expenses and overheads related to its acquisitions in the United States and higher labour costs. WFS also benefitted from grants in 2021 under a payroll support programme in the US, but not in 2022.  
On top of that, WFS saw higher costs as a result of investments in IT and business development resources. The group was also affected by provisions for unrealised foreign exchange losses and higher interest related to its senior secured notes.
 
Post-pandemic softness
Citing data from the International Air Transport Association, the report to bondholders of WFS noted that global air cargo volumes (measured by cargo tonne-kilometres) declined 9.3 per cent yoy in Q3 2022. For the first nine months of 2022, air cargo volumes declined 6 per cent yoy."
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FrancisLim
Elite |
11-Jan-2023 10:07
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One wonder if thr figures are not based on IFRS which is substantially the same as SFRS then what are they based on?  The Stadard if differs from SFRS should also be made known. " Since 2003,  all Singapore companies must prepare and present financial statements that comply with the Singapore Financial Reporting Standards (SFRS), which is substantially similar to the International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS)." Also, in basing the proforma on audited financil statements, it is usual to disclose subsequent events..the subsequent lmaterial osses incurred by the Company. The BT report albeit a bit late, given that the EGM is a week away nevertheless caused  morning rush to the Exit by shareholders..  
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dontbetray
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11-Jan-2023 09:15
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Sats added that it was not required to include the SFRS(I) adjustments in the circular, but it voluntarily did so. The company also stressed that the adjustments have no bearing on the cash flow of the target group. they talking rubbish.   So much money at stake , it' s only right they have to be transparent with all detail. They sound they got like integrity comparing to SPH media. 
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Joelton
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11-Jan-2023 08:52
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Sats-WFS deal: Pro forma financials in circular show lower immediate boost to earnings, EPS
SINCE announcing plans to acquire Worldwide Flight Services more than three months ago, Sats has consistently said the &ldquo transformational&rdquo deal will make it more resilient and unlock significant growth potential.
 
But information provided by the in-flight caterer and ground handler about the immediate financial impact of the transaction has since been updated.
 
When Sats unveiled the S$1.8 billion acquisition of WFS on Sep 28 last year, it said in a statement that the deal would boost its earnings per share (EPS) for the financial year to Mar 31, 2022 by 78 per cent on a pro forma basis.
 
The pro forma financial effects of the deal provided in the initial announcement showed its net profit for FY2022 would rise from S$20 million to S$56 million (including amortisation of intangible assets), while its EPS would rise from 1.8 Singapore cents to 3.2 Singapore cents.
 
This was based on the assumption that Sats raises S$1.7 billion through a rights issue of 609 million new shares at S$2.79 each &ndash which the company quickly began insisting would not actually happen.
 
On Oct 3, 2022, Sats said no decision had been made on the funding structure for the WFS acquisition. Three days later, The Business Times quoted Sats chief executive Kerry Mok saying that any rights issue by the company would be much smaller than S$1.7 billion.
 
On Dec 1, 2022, Sats said it had finalised its funding plan. The company now plans to raise S$800 million through a rights issue some time in Q1 2023. It will raise a further S$700 million through a term loan, and put S$320 million of its existing cash balances towards the deal.
 
What does all this mean for investors? On Jan 3, 2023, Sats said in a circular to its shareholders that the acquisition of WFS would result in a significant &ldquo step change&rdquo in its revenue and Ebitda (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation).
 
But Sats also provided pro forma net profit and EPS numbers that are quite different from its original announcement on the deal.
 
The company&rsquo s FY2022 net profit now rises from S$20 million to only S$28 million (including amortisation of intangible assets) its EPS rises less than 6 per cent, from 1.8 Singapore cents to 1.9 Singapore cents.
 
Sats has also now included pro forma earnings numbers that include adjustments to the target group&rsquo s financial statements to bring them in line with Singapore Financial Reporting Standards (International).
 
Including the SFRS(I) changes, the company&rsquo s pro forma FY2022 net profit actually falls from S$20 million to minus S$16 million (including amortisation of intangible assets). Its pro forma EPS falls from 1.8 Singapore cents to minus 1.1 Singapore cents.
 
Interestingly, the circular includes financial numbers for WFS not disclosed in the original announcement &ndash numbers that show WFS fell into net losses during the first three quarters of 2022. On the face of it, the pro forma earnings numbers for Sats might have been even worse if they were prepared for the six-month period to Sep 30, 2022.
 
Increased interest expense
When asked why the pro forma FY2022 net profit and EPS in its circular were lower than in the initial announcement, Sats replied that its finalised funding structure now includes a certain amount of debt.
 
&ldquo Taking on S$700 million of debt under the term loan will result in increased interest expense, thus reducing the pro forma net profit as disclosed in the circular,&rdquo it told BT.
 
&ldquo In view of the cash-generative nature of the businesses, Sats is confident that it will be able to deleverage and meet its debt commitments, with the potential free cash flows that will be generated from the combined businesses,&rdquo the company added.
 
Sats noted that the debt load will reduce the cash call on its shareholders. &ldquo This achieves a balanced mix of debt and equity, and a reasonable overall cost of capital. In addition, the reduced size of the proposed rights issue enables more minority shareholders to fully participate in funding part of the acquisition and avoid being diluted.&rdquo
 
Why were the SFRS(I) adjustments, which have the effect of lowering the pro forma net profit and EPS figures, not included in the original announcement? Sats said the computation was &ldquo a major and complex undertaking&rdquo that was not appropriate for presentation at the time.
 
Sats added that it was not required to include the SFRS(I) adjustments in the circular, but it voluntarily did so. The company also stressed that the adjustments have no bearing on the cash flow of the target group.
 
As for its pro forma earnings numbers not fully reflecting WFS falling into losses in the first three quarters of 2023, Sats said it was required to prepare pro forma financials based on its latest audited financial year-end &ndash which was Mar 31, 2022.
 
It also pointed out that the recent losses at WFS were largely due to unrealised foreign-exchange losses against its senior secured notes and other one-off items.
 
Share price slump
When Sats announced the acquisition of WFS last year, its share price promptly sank. This was attributed to a lack of clarity about the company&rsquo s fundraising plans, as well as doubts that the deal would result in as much of an EPS uplift as suggested by the pro forma estimates that were provided.
 
The circular published on Jan 3, 2023 now suggests that the pro forma net profit and EPS numbers in the initial announcement were indeed overly optimistic, and that the deal might even be initially dilutive for Sats&rsquo earnings.
 
Moreover, it seems clear the finalised funding structure that Sats announced on Dec 1, 2022 had significant implications for its pro forma earnings numbers &ndash which is perhaps why its stock price did not recover even after it &ldquo reduced&rdquo the size of the rights issue.
 
Shareholders of Sats planning to vote on the proposed acquisition of WFS at the extraordinary general meeting scheduled for Jan 18, 2023 should carefully consider all the information contained in the circular.
 
They should perhaps also keep in mind that the recent trajectory of Sats&rsquo share price has been an accurate barometer of the financial implications of the deal.
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