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eagleeyes1989 Master	16-Aug-2017 14:13        eagleeyes1989 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	if there are other longists out there - have faith in the stock and block the noise out .. there are TONNES of salty retailers waiting to short Best World because they have missed the boat from 0.4cents all the way to $2.50 pre-consolidation price. every time they will think the rise is over, but it keeps SOARING, so now that it is going down , they are praying to all the God' s that it goes back to the original 0,4cents level.. well , do your own diligence, and spend hours researching on the companies business, performance and management.. IGNORE the noise, and do your homework :)
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F1nGolf Member	16-Aug-2017 14:05        F1nGolf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	At current price of 1.355, I' m not excited on the risk/reward return. Not vested.
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F1nGolf Member	16-Aug-2017 14:01        F1nGolf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This is all part of the fund houses risk management strategy i.e. transfering their risks to unwary investors.  tankookoo      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 13:52) Posted: While calming the investors, the fund house and BB would start distribution their shares. Slowly and slowly, price will dip..until sky is clear...   F1nGolf      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 13:22) Posted: With the hammering of the share price yesterday, it is expected that Bestworld would make annoucement to calm the investors. For CIMB, it is also perfectly understandable to support Bestworld in view of all the recent BUY calls. At the end of the day, it is not what Bestworld, CIMB or anyone says whether Bestworld business model would be classified as MLM more important is what the Chinese authorities says. And imho, knowing how the Chinese authorities work, the risks are there and it could get worse before the dusts settle.
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tankookoo Master	16-Aug-2017 13:52        tankookoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	While calming the investors, the fund house and BB would start distribution their shares. Slowly and slowly, price will dip..until sky is clear...   F1nGolf      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 13:22) Posted: With the hammering of the share price yesterday, it is expected that Bestworld would make annoucement to calm the investors. For CIMB, it is also perfectly understandable to support Bestworld in view of all the recent BUY calls. At the end of the day, it is not what Bestworld, CIMB or anyone says whether Bestworld business model would be classified as MLM more important is what the Chinese authorities says. And imho, knowing how the Chinese authorities work, the risks are there and it could get worse before the dusts settle.  tankookoo      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:46) Posted: CIMB today writeup that Bestworld is not mlm and target price of around $1.80...Hai See Lang...many rush in buy this morning think it could recoup yesterday loss. think can see $1 soon..
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lifeisgood Supreme	16-Aug 13:31        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Many of these Asian beauty prodcuts companies always show pictures of aunties with VERY SHINY FACES, like covered with oil. Quite awful.
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F1nGolf Member	16-Aug-2017 13:22        F1nGolf About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	With the hammering of the share price yesterday, it is expected that Bestworld would make annoucement to calm the investors. For CIMB, it is also perfectly understandable to support Bestworld in view of all the recent BUY calls. At the end of the day, it is not what Bestworld, CIMB or anyone says whether Bestworld business model would be classified as MLM more important is what the Chinese authorities says. And imho, knowing how the Chinese authorities work, the risks are there and it could get worse before the dusts settle.  tankookoo      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:46) Posted: CIMB today writeup that Bestworld is not mlm and target price of around $1.80...Hai See Lang...many rush in buy this morning think it could recoup yesterday loss. think can see $1 soon..   pnuklis      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:19) Posted: The explaination given to SGX is not convincing to the share holders and that is the reason getting battered again today. Headed beliow 1.30 soon.
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laksaman57 Supreme	16-Aug-2017 12:38        laksaman57 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Price/Book value ratio 7.19 😰
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lifeisgood Supreme	16-Aug-2017 12:38        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ever heard of E-COMMERCE? If the products are so good, just put them out on Alibaba, Taobao, Tmall, Lazada, Amazon etc, people will flock to buy. Why need downlines, distributors? Sell to aunties, and aunties sell to more aunties ???
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NextEvolution Elite	16-Aug-2017 12:12        NextEvolution About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	All these direct selling, the mark-up is astonishingly high. A product costing less than a few dollar to produce can sell for over $100 and the bulk of the margin distributed to the downlines bernardc      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:58) Posted: DIRECT SELLING MLM?? PYRAMID..?? ALL ON COMMISIONS ...MANY LAYERS..DOWN LIES ..ETC.. EXPENSIVE ..HIGHLY MARK UP PRODUCTS IF ANY SELLING 1 TO 1..ON PERSONAL LEVEL.. zillion      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:51) Posted: no big difference- direct selling and mlm. in the early days mlm got a very name. so it transformed itself into direct selling. direct selling still need to recruit tons of people to join as members to get over riding commission. legally it is not mlm but biz wise the mode is no different.
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sbscap Master	16-Aug-2017 12:00        sbscap About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good point. There are many similarities. Call it whatever, the only way to reach out to more people who eventually buy is to have a lot of people recruiting a lot of people. Without a lot of recruitment, sales growth will eventually taper off or reverses. zillion      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:51) Posted: no big difference- direct selling and mlm. in the early days mlm got a very name. so it transformed itself into direct selling. direct selling still need to recruit tons of people to join as members to get over riding commission. legally it is not mlm but biz wise the mode is no different.
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bernardc Elite	16-Aug-2017 11:58        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	DIRECT SELLING MLM?? PYRAMID..?? ALL ON COMMISIONS ...MANY LAYERS..DOWN LIES ..ETC.. EXPENSIVE ..HIGHLY MARK UP PRODUCTS IF ANY SELLING 1 TO 1..ON PERSONAL LEVEL.. zillion      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:51) Posted: no big difference- direct selling and mlm. in the early days mlm got a very name. so it transformed itself into direct selling. direct selling still need to recruit tons of people to join as members to get over riding commission. legally it is not mlm but biz wise the mode is no different.
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zillion Master	16-Aug-2017 11:51        zillion About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	no big difference- direct selling and mlm. in the early days mlm got a very name. so it transformed itself into direct selling. direct selling still need to recruit tons of people to join as members to get over riding commission. legally it is not mlm but biz wise the mode is no different.
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tankookoo Master	16-Aug-2017 11:46        tankookoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	CIMB today writeup that Bestworld is not mlm and target price of around $1.80...Hai See Lang...many rush in buy this morning think it could recoup yesterday loss. think can see $1 soon..   pnuklis      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:19) Posted: The explaination given to SGX is not convincing to the share holders and that is the reason getting battered again today. Headed beliow 1.30 soon.
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bernardc Elite	16-Aug-2017 11:20        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	mlm...a abridge version of pyramid scheme..
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pnuklis Master	16-Aug-2017 11:19        pnuklis About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The explaination given to SGX is not convincing to the share holders and that is the reason getting battered again today. Headed beliow 1.30 soon.
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tankookoo Master	16-Aug-2017 10:22        tankookoo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	those who rush in morning to buy aorund 1.40 cents kana carry baby liao.
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stockpicker Master	16-Aug-2017 09:02        stockpicker About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	There is a sign of falling commission paid to members.. it might mean the sale is slowing or active numbers of members are falling.. Yls1033      ( Date: 15-Aug-2017 21:47) Posted: Modest growth in membership pool. The number of members rose 1.8% q-o-q to 468,479 as at end 2Q17. The group also introduced a new metric this quarter &ndash active distributors, or members who have received commission for at least six months over the last 12 months. These distributors made up approximately 11% of the total membership pool. While we are unable to make comparisons at this point, tracking this metric going forward should provide greater insight into the progress of Best World&rsquo s recruitment efforts and ultimately, earnings potential.  https://www1.dbsvonline.com/DBSVReport/2017/08/20170808145047_bwi.pdf before Bloomberg report on Aug 15 think carefully b4 act
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zillion Master	16-Aug-2017 08:54        zillion About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Eg made in Usa import beauty products under oem s name export to china using downline system via direct distribution/selling recruiting tons of downliners giving super over riding comm -this is macam mlm if not what
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Yls1033 Member	15-Aug-2017 21:47        Yls1033 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Modest growth in membership pool. The number of members rose 1.8% q-o-q to 468,479 as at end 2Q17. The group also introduced a new metric this quarter &ndash active distributors, or members who have received commission for at least six months over the last 12 months. These distributors made up approximately 11% of the total membership pool. While we are unable to make comparisons at this point, tracking this metric going forward should provide greater insight into the progress of Best World&rsquo s recruitment efforts and ultimately, earnings potential.  https://www1.dbsvonline.com/DBSVReport/2017/08/20170808145047_bwi.pdf before Bloomberg report on Aug 15 think carefully b4 act
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Tommy12356 Master	15-Aug-2017 21:32        Tommy12356 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	An excus for BB to offload, retailer need to hold baby moneyspinner      ( Date: 15-Aug-2017 18:23) Posted: Note from Maybank  KE Retail Research   Best World obtained its direct selling licence in China in Nov 2016 but has yet to begin direct selling.  Photo: CompanyBest World hit a low of $1.40 (-9.1%) in early trading following a negative Bloomberg article highlighting a government crackdown on alleged pyramid schemes in China, which prompted a SGX trading query. Share prices for Herbalife (-7.8%), Nu Skin (-9.6%) and USANA Health Sciences (-10%) fell overnight after China' s State Administration for Industry & Commerce announced a three-month campaign to police pyramid schemes, although it did not name any companies. Given that the Chinese market is the key growth driver for the three global direct sellers, the regulatory clampdown could pose a significant risk on sales.   Despite the near-term overhang on the stock, we retain Best World in the Market Insight Growth portfolio on the basis of its phenomenal earnings growth momentum as the group makes further inroads into China. -- Maybank KE Best World has only recently made inroads into the Chinese direct selling market after obtaining its licence in Hangzhou city in Nov ' 16 In 1H17, revenue from China contributed 48% of Best World' s overall sales of $100m, of which almost all stem from the export and manufacturing/wholesale segment. Best World does not operate a pyramid scheme and will be introducing its direct selling operations in phases. The government crackdown is aimed at Ponzi schemes, which are illegal and is not directed against legitimate direct selling businesses. As for now, Best World still operates the export model in China where it sells its premium skincare products primarily to beauty/hair salons, spa owners, etc. The model does not incentivise retailers to stock up on products (channel stock) as they would not receive any distribution gains, as opposed to the direct selling model. Further, Best World has policies in place to prevent channel stocking, particularly in China, which could lead to pyramid schemes. Products sold in China are reportedly in short supply due to increased demand from consumer acceptance. Following the selldown, Best World currently trades at 14.1x FY18 P/E, with consensus earnings growth forecast of 23%/16% in FY18/FY19.
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