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Oil price: Post-Brexit slump may not be over yetJun 29, 2016
Crude futures move higher in London and New York but remain below pre-EU referendum $50 highs
![]() Page 1 of 60Oil price: Post-Brexit slump may not be over yetOil rallied yesterday in both London and New York, with  Reuters  reporting it added around three per cent as wider markets rebounded following a post-Brexit crash.  Brent crude, which sets prices in the North Sea, among other areas, was up around one per cent for the session to a little above $49 a barrel at 11am in London today. SEE RELATED 
Having fallen below $48 at one point earlier this week, as the fallout from the UK' s shock referendum result reverberated around markets, prices gained support from a looming strike in Norway. This should help maintain the temporary balance between supply and demand across the global market that followed production outages in Canada, Nigeria and elsewhere. Analysts expect this to be effectively confirmed by a sixth consecutive fall in US stockpiles figures later today. But the reality is the rise is almost certainly being primarily driven by a recovery for the pound and dip in the resurgent dollar. After a one per cent advance yesterday, sterling is up another 0.4 per cent today to close to $1.34.  
As the dollar falls, the price of oil becomes cheaper for overseas buyers, which is seen as a boon for global demand.  
It is too early to say that the fall in the pound is done, analysts say. It took five months and several false dawns after the UK crashed out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism in 1992 before the currency eventually found a price floor. " I would categorise today' s current move higher as a corrective move after the strong push lower since last Thursday," Dominick Chirichella, a senior partner at the Energy Management Institute in New York, said. " More time is needed to safely say the down move in oil is officially over." Once the Brexit smokes clears, the fundamentals on supply and demand will come into focus &ndash and that may not support significantly higher prices  in the mid-term.                  Oilprice.com  reports the International Energy Agency' s latest report, published yesterday, predicts the return of production in key areas will swing the market back into surplus by early next year and that the drawdown for 2017 as a whole could be a minimal 100,000 barrels. Oil price finds support at $48 as Norway strike looms28 June The oil price initially rebounded on Monday morning, as markets generally opened in a calmer mood, but then quickly saw sharp decline. SEE RELATED 
However, having dropped by $48 a barrel in London trading, international benchmark Brent crude seemed to find a floor and rebounded overnight. It was up almost two per cent to $48.10 a barrel at a little after 10am in London today. Reuters  reports that traders turned back to the supply issues that have been threatening to rebalance the market &ndash and especially looming strike action in Norway, which could impact on output from this Saturday. Disruption in the likes of Canada and Nigeria had been easing, bringing more barrels back to market and prompting fears that a global supply glut would return. The Norway oil sector turmoil is therefore seen as a bullish signal. Of course, this is not the dominant force in the market at the moment. Of greater importance are currency movements &ndash and this is what undermined a modest rally yesterday. In short, the pound was getting pummelled, which boosts the dollar and makes oil more expensive to foreign buyers. This is seen as bearish for demand by traders already spooked by the potential for a damaging post-Brexit recession. Having recovered earlier on, the pound hit a new 31-year low against the dollar yesterday. It is rallying again today, by around 0.6 per cent to just shy of $1.33, but trading remains volatile. The oil price will probably continue to gyrate all the time the Forex markets are so skittish &ndash and with the pound likely to remain under pressure, there is reason to suspect it' s headroom for short-term growth is limited. At the same time, the downside looks similarly narrow because the supply picture is quite positive. In a report yesterday, Morgan Stanley even suggested this view could be exacerbated by  Brexit  if it causes companies to further reduce investment to bring new supply to market. Oil price stabilises after bullish Goldman Sachs note on Brexit impact 27 June Oil prices have stabilised in London after a sharp drop on Friday and a further slide in Asian trading overnight on the back of the UK' s shock vote to leave the European Union. International price benchmark Brent crude dived five per cent on Friday and then edged lower again overnight to a little above $48 a barrel. Its US counterpart, West Texas Intermediate, was down 0.5 per cent to around $47.25 a barrel. Oil is not directly affected by Brexit, but the hit to the UK and European economies is seen as negative demand, as is the inflationary impact on the dollar from the tumbling pound. But oil actually gained marginal ground in morning trading in London today, Reuters notes [1], after long-time bear Goldman Sachs issued a note dismissing fears the EU referendum result would impact significantly on demand. " If we assume a 2 percent drop in UK GDP in response to the exit vote, which is on the high end of our economists' estimates, then UK oil demand would likely be reduced by 1 percent or 16,000 barrels per day, which is a 0.016 percent hit to global demand," it said. " This is extremely small on any measure." Morgan Stanley generally agreed, although it added: " Europe is a big trading partner for the United States and China, which could lead to knock on global effects" that would be deleterious for demand. That is not to say Morgan Stanley was upbeat, more that it sees the real problems being elsewhere. " For near term oil, we remain most concerned about product oversupply, China demand, the macro outlook, and the likely return of production [in the US following a prolonged rise in prices]," its analysts said. Oil could hit $45 before post-Brexit slide is done24 June Oil has, as expected, fallen sharply after the decision of UK voters to leave the European Union. Expectations that the status quo-supporting Remain camp would ultimately prevail saw oil futures rise earlier this week, along with global stocks and the pound. &ldquo Financial markets&hellip were clearly not fully factoring in the risk of a Leave vote,&rdquo says  Reuters. Now that the seemingly unthinkable has happened, a major risk-off move is taking place. Sterling fell to its lowest level for 30 years, the FTSE 100 initially shed £ 120bn and the oil price crashed by more than five per cent. International benchmark Brent crude was down 5.4 per cent at a little above $48 a barrel at around 11.30am in London trading today. Its US counterpart, West Texas Intermediate, dropped a similar margin to hit $47.50 a barrel. While oil is not directly affected by the vote, traders fear there could be economic damage beyond the UK and Europe which could hurt demand. That precipitous fall in the pound is also driving up the dollar, which makes the commodity more expensive for overseas buyers. Nor do analysts believe the slide is over. " Our view is that we have not yet seen the low oil price of the day, with Brent likely to trade down towards $45 or lower before we have seen the worst of it," Reuters [1] reports Bjarne Schieldrop, the chief commodity analyst at SEB, saying in note to clients. Beyond the result, it will be interesting to see how oil will react next week and in the medium term, with intense volatility likely. Bearish underlying signals on global supply are still expected to hold the gains from any eventual recovery. Will oil price surge if Remain wins the EU referendum?23 June Oil futures, like most risk assets, has been doing better in recent days as traders take heart from a late polls shift to Remain ahead of the EU referendum. Having fallen for six consecutive sessions from a 2016 high of $53 two weeks ago, international benchmark Brent crude returned to $50 earlier this week. It has been held back from further gains by supply concerns &ndash so would a Remain victory send it soaring? No, says investment bank BNP Paribas. It outlines a lose-lose scenario for oil: either a Leave vote sends the price spiralling lower in response to a demand-dampening surge for the dollar against the pound, or a Remain victory focuses attention back on supply and demand fundamentals that do not support higher prices. " Either way... it may be interesting to take up some insurance and buy downside protection," the bank said in a note reported by  Reuters. Brent crude fell slightly yesterday in New York after a report from the US Energy Information Administration showed a disappointingly small dip in domestic crude stockpiles of less than a million barrels last week while stocks of petrol and distillates had surged, despite soaring demand. With output from the likes of Saudi Arabia stubbornly high, production disruptions in Canada and Nigeria being steadily resolved and expectations that current prices could bring more US shale-drillers back to the market, the supply picture makes many nervous in the medium term. Brokers have consistently estimated the oil price will barely move from current levels by the end of 2017 &ndash and could be lower in the second half of this year. Any boost from a Remain victory would be short-lived in this scenario. But there are those predicting a more sustained recovery. Earlier this week, Raymond James  forecast  oil could return to $80 a barrel as cyclical production falls and reduced investment prompts a larger supply deficit in the coming months than most experts are expecting. Oil goes above $51 as traders bet against Brexit22 June International oil price benchmark Brent crude bucked earlier modest losses on Tuesday afternoon and has risen above $51 this morning as traders continue to bet against Brexit.  Analysts have warned of volatility for markets, including oil futures, ahead of tomorrow' s EU referendum, which could have implications for demand if a vote to Leave hits growth in the UK, Europe and elsewhere, along with an expected surge for the dollar in response.  SEE RELATED 
So far, traders have been calm and a boost for the Remain camp in polling over the weekend has consolidated confidence that the vote will be to stay.  Marginal losses in early Tuesday trading were little more than a pull back after two days of advances, with Brent nudging 0.1 per cent lower. Its recovery was helped in part by a report on US crude oil reserves that had positive implications for supply. The American Petroleum  Institute  (API)  revealed a draw of 5.2 million barrels on US reserves,  Reuters  reports, way ahead of analyst expectations and suggesting that demand is still outstripping supply after recent outages. Official data from the Energy Information Administration, which can often be at variance with the API numbers, is published this afternoon.  Should the UK vote to remain in the EU, the supply balance will come back into focus. But the picture is still " hazy" , the  Wall Street Journal  says. Prices may struggle if output disruptions in Canada and Nigeria are quickly resolved and the likes of Saudi Arabia and Iran continue a turf war. " It would appear that the strong spring price advance has run its course and that fresh highs are a slim possibility even when extending a view out across the rest of the summer," Jim Ritterbusch, the president of energy-advisory firm Ritterbusch & Associates, said in a note. |
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sgng123
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30-Jun-2016 15:35
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Moody downgrade sg bank outlook from stable to negative. Sg gdp also projected to grow 1.6% in 2016. Weak ass growth waiting for correction to happen. |
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sgng123
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30-Jun-2016 15:32
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Caution is no shame. The shame is asking everyone in forum to blind follow ignoring basic economy, brexit would lead to lower global growth in next 2 years, this everyone should agreed on. Low global growth u expected stock markets to go on bull run, that is a bit far fetch. Markets would correct according to reduction in global growth, stock priced in according, unless there is another big shot of qe to inflate equilities else correction on the way just when .
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earlybird14
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30-Jun-2016 15:32
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Want to place a bet on reversal is like that. Patient and waiting. Fight and fight till long and short agree and shake hand to move to same direction.
A strong one shall be pushing it down with 1 minutes and gradually to 5 minutes till next support.
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earlybird14
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30-Jun-2016 15:28
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I believe effect of brexit may start from today by following news of retrenchment and hq relocation with the uncertainty from UK gov.
Hopefully I place the right bet on it. Market now is profit taking rather than Chiong down. Today euro meeting, don't know if they will give positive or negative action on brexit.
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halleluyah
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30-Jun-2016 15:24
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Future dow -50...euro following.... |
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earlybird14
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30-Jun-2016 15:24
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We may choose the wrong one. The strong one hard to beat. Hopefully after beaten, they will vomit.
Euro and German index down faster since they are weak. These few days UK gov shall pump in a lot to support ftse.
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new_wind
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30-Jun-2016 15:20
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Finally break neckline.. the long & short fighting like crazy!!
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risktaker
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30-Jun-2016 15:17
Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise " |
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Think rebound is over.... quick take profit or short | ||||
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jackson5
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30-Jun-2016 15:15
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Repeat this everyday and you will get it right one day . You dont seem to know what SHAME is .
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risktaker
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30-Jun-2016 14:53
Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise " |
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Looks like oil going 45....then 40 | ||||
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sgng123
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30-Jun-2016 14:45
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Maybe all this brexit is show put up on world leaders and hedge fund to deflate the stock market, currently overvalue need to let air out. Controlled crisis to reset the economic cycle. No businessmen would want to commit to future investment after brexit, this would pull down global gdp growth in 2h. When chine gdp go into shitty level, here come asia correction. |
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risktaker
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30-Jun-2016 14:37
Yells: "Posts are opinions. Do not take it as investment advise " |
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Oil dropping... anyone short oil? | ||||
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earlybird14
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30-Jun-2016 14:36
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Euro stock 50 already gone horlan Liao😭 😭 😭 .
Who is blocking ftse?
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jayarumah
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30-Jun-2016 14:33
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And to risk losing Scotland (Mind you, Scotland is damn serious about being in EU and may do another referendum for independence from UK)....can UK seriously afford it ?
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earlybird14
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30-Jun-2016 14:32
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Dow chart more bearish. Why I choose ftse. 😭 😭 😭
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earlybird14
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30-Jun-2016 14:28
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15mins chart form head and shoulders. If it go up again 6370, I will cut half and cut all after 6394 broken.
Now have to wait European to wake up, 15.00 to 15.30 we shall see if it Chionh down or not.
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stevenlim109
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30-Jun-2016 14:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOqSW7VAsk Nigel Farage on Brexit and Donald Trump (Full CNN interview) |
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tiancai007
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30-Jun-2016 14:15
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Did you get stop-out at 6394? I short at 6370 this morning. 
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jayarumah
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30-Jun-2016 14:12
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John Kerry may be right. If he is right, Euro and Pound will shoot up, thus devaluing USD in the process, making FED easier to raise a bit of interest rate after US Elections.  As the No. 2 working man in US, you do not " anyhow talk" unless you have some supporting substance to substantiate things. The Biggest Hint so far is : No One triggers the Article 50 : ) Not even the Leave Camp leaders in the Parliament.  Brexit may never happen, says US Secretary of State John KerryUS Secretary  of State  quoted as saying there are still ' a number of ways' Britain could avoid Brexit   
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