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counter Veteran	22-Jul-2014 10:11        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Youy sound deperate for the price to fall. Instead of wasting your time trying to shake confidence here, which is unlikely to work and you know that too, why don' t you short the stock. Indeed, I have not been able to pick up any shares since I picked up 1155 lots more than a week ago. earlybird14      ( Date: 22-Jul-2014 08:55) Posted: Will the share price wait for you to sell if the desperate come in? Lucky03      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 17:18) Posted: NOL has been embarking on the fleet renewal over the last 3 years. Any investor can only tolerate that far. They do not have any major plan now. Since they have just completed it this quarter, we should hold out judgement for another quarter or at most 2. If there is no significant turnaround and the mgmt continues to issue such disappointing forward guidance and lack of confidence, perhaps I'll also have to give up my positions. Will see what the Q2 result and what the mgmt forward guidance before making the next call. In the meantime, if there is any insider intelligence or someone from the industry who knows how NOL fare, we may see some movements in its share price as early as next week.
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earlybird14 Supreme	22-Jul-2014 08:55        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Will the share price wait for you to sell if the desperate come in? Lucky03      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 17:18) Posted: NOL has been embarking on the fleet renewal over the last 3 years. Any investor can only tolerate that far. They do not have any major plan now. Since they have just completed it this quarter, we should hold out judgement for another quarter or at most 2. If there is no significant turnaround and the mgmt continues to issue such disappointing forward guidance and lack of confidence, perhaps I'll also have to give up my positions. Will see what the Q2 result and what the mgmt forward guidance before making the next call. In the meantime, if there is any insider intelligence or someone from the industry who knows how NOL fare, we may see some movements in its share price as early as next week.
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Trespasserx Senior	21-Jul-2014 17:33        Trespasserx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	And to qualify myself..I have vested in nol cos I am not a speculative investor.. Still see the long term potential of nol although won't deny the possibility that this share still may nosedive because of poor performance.. Just invest within your limit.. Cheers
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Trespasserx Senior	21-Jul-2014 17:29        Trespasserx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hi all.. To me.. Both have their own pov.. Just perhaps with different intention.. For those who are vested in nol obviously will sell "ko yo" abt nol hoping that it will go up.. As for earlybird if u scroll down to his earlier post.. He will consider value for money if nol nosedive to 70 cent.. Obviously he wants nol to drop so he can pick durian.. If not why he wants waste his effort and time posting on here... At the end of the day, it all about personal interest.. To me based on what nol is doing.. The current price do present value for money, but the activity in share has not been encouraging..a lot of high volume selling at 935 at end of trading.. Like trying to induce people to queue at start of trading then do last min dumping at 935
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counter Veteran	21-Jul-2014 17:22        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	This sounds much more mature.
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Lucky03 Elite	21-Jul-2014 17:18        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	NOL has been embarking on the fleet renewal over the last 3 years. Any investor can only tolerate that far. They do not have any major plan now. Since they have just completed it this quarter, we should hold out judgement for another quarter or at most 2. If there is no significant turnaround and the mgmt continues to issue such disappointing forward guidance and lack of confidence, perhaps I'll also have to give up my positions. Will see what the Q2 result and what the mgmt forward guidance before making the next call. In the meantime, if there is any insider intelligence or someone from the industry who knows how NOL fare, we may see some movements in its share price as early as next week.
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earlybird14 Supreme	21-Jul-2014 17:05        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So you mean you are insider to know? 1) making profit in coming quarter? 2) http://www1.chineseshipping.com.cn/en/indices/ccfi.jsp  last week still show low freight rate? history? 3 & 4) It is always a history... famouspinky      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:52) Posted: You should be a historian earlybird14      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:48) Posted: Distorting facts? which one? 1) loss making? 2) low freight rate? 3) increasing debt? 4) increasing interest expense?
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counter Veteran	21-Jul-2014 16:58        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Distorting facts do not only refer to make up things that are untrue. It also  includes deliberately omitting important facts with the objective influencing others in a wrong way. The latter is what you have been doing. earlybird14      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:48) Posted: Distorting facts? which one? 1) loss making? 2) low freight rate? 3) increasing debt? 4) increasing interest expense? counter      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:37) Posted: Yes, and distorting facts in doing so.
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famouspinky Supreme	21-Jul-2014 16:52        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You should be a historian earlybird14      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:48) Posted: Distorting facts? which one? 1) loss making? 2) low freight rate? 3) increasing debt? 4) increasing interest expense? counter      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:37) Posted: Yes, and distorting facts in doing so.
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earlybird14 Supreme	21-Jul-2014 16:48        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Distorting facts? which one? 1) loss making? 2) low freight rate? 3) increasing debt? 4) increasing interest expense? counter      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:37) Posted: Yes, and distorting facts in doing so.
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counter Veteran	21-Jul-2014 16:37        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, and distorting facts in doing so.
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earlybird14 Supreme	21-Jul-2014 16:29        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Just making the facts to be easy and simple to understand. counter      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:23) Posted: It is a shame that a veteran in this forum talks like the way you do.
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counter Veteran	21-Jul-2014 16:23        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is a shame that a veteran in this forum talks like the way you do.
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earlybird14 Supreme	21-Jul-2014 16:18        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Ya, my statement is flaw. I should include, more NOL lose, more NOL loan, more interest to pay, no money pay interest, loan more again, till begging market to help. counter      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 16:10) Posted: I invest in companies. I don' t support companies. Therefore, I am not a support of NOL. quote Face the facts, if you sell a thing with loss making margin, the more you sell, the more you lose. unquote What a shame that you get this basic principle wrong. Do you need me to explain to you the flaw in your argument?
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counter Veteran	21-Jul-2014 16:10        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I invest in companies. I don' t support companies. Therefore, I am not a support of NOL. quote Face the facts, if you sell a thing with loss making margin, the more you sell, the more you lose. unquote What a shame that you get this basic principle wrong. Do you need me to explain to you the flaw in your argument?
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earlybird14 Supreme	21-Jul-2014 16:03        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Based on all the NOL supporters here seem like everything are growing. But what a shame, the container freight rate is not growing. Face the facts, if you sell a thing with loss making margin, the more you sell, the more you lose. This is NOL. counter      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 15:46) Posted: Singapore' s exports are over 200 per cent of the GDP and hence is very export-dependent. It' s total trade is over 4 times the GDP which is the highest in the world. Therefore, NOL is a strategic company for Singapore, pretty much like Olam for a country without commodity endowment. Do you seriously think that NOL will end before you do?
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counter Veteran	21-Jul-2014 15:46        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Singapore' s exports are over 200 per cent of the GDP and hence is very export-dependent. It' s total trade is over 4 times the GDP which is the highest in the world. Therefore, NOL is a strategic company for Singapore, pretty much like Olam for a country without commodity endowment. Do you seriously think that NOL will end before you do?
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counter Veteran	21-Jul-2014 15:36        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I find you a  shame to talk like the way you do. earlybird14      ( Date: 21-Jul-2014 11:13) Posted: NOL ex headquarter building near PSA are closing down. No chance for NOL to buy back the building anymore since it will be redeveloped. It also imply the end of NOL!!! What a shame, a multi billion company can' t even protect their own headquarter!
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danger Supreme	21-Jul-2014 11:38        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	No worries if you had just bought at 5 year low point at 93.5/94c
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earlybird14 Supreme	21-Jul-2014 11:13        earlybird14 About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	NOL ex headquarter building near PSA are closing down. No chance for NOL to buy back the building anymore since it will be redeveloped. It also imply the end of NOL!!! What a shame, a multi billion company can' t even protect their own headquarter!
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