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Sgvale Supreme	02-Mar-2018 10:21        Sgvale About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Very strong. See the continuation to up
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lifeisgood Supreme	02-Mar-2018 10:21        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Read the below to know why I value this company at least $18 - $20 because I think Creative will far surpass this market share of 1%.  20 years ago, when Creative first launched its sound cards, it was 100% of the market. Dont play play.
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lifeisgood Supreme	02-Mar-2018 10:18        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Analysts not telling you this I supposed.  lifeisgood      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 10:10) Posted: Some of my own background research: In 2017, worldwide sales of headphones reached 368 million units. On average, from 2013 to 2017, the headphone market grew 33 million units per year (according to Statistica.com). Sales are projected to hit around 390 million units in 2018. If Creative sold to only 1 % of the headphone makers, that would be 3.9 million units per year. If each pays a USD 150 chip/dongle, that would be a revenue of USD 585 million revenue per year.  At a price to sales valuation of 1 times, company should be worth at least USD 585 million. Ie, share price of SGD 11. At 2 times price to sales, share price is worth $22. Depending on how the market values it. And you get the rest of the Creative products and Intellectual Portfolio for free. If Creative sold to 10% of the headphone makers, that would be USD 5.85 billion revenue per year. This would be higher than the glorious old days when revenue exceed USD 1 billion per year just on sound cards alone. It is humongous!!! Those days share price went up to $70 !   If Creative sold to 10% of the headphone makers, then obviously, you would be looking at Creative being worth USD 5.85 billion or higher. It was valued at this before. Don&rsquo t say it wont happen again.
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lifeisgood Supreme	02-Mar-2018 10:10        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Some of my own background research: In 2017, worldwide sales of headphones reached 368 million units. On average, from 2013 to 2017, the headphone market grew 33 million units per year (according to Statistica.com). Sales are projected to hit around 390 million units in 2018. If Creative sold to only 1 % of the headphone makers, that would be 3.9 million units per year. If each pays a USD 150 chip/dongle, that would be a revenue of USD 585 million revenue per year.  At a price to sales valuation of 1 times, company should be worth at least USD 585 million. Ie, share price of SGD 11. At 2 times price to sales, share price is worth $22. Depending on how the market values it. And you get the rest of the Creative products and Intellectual Portfolio for free. If Creative sold to 10% of the headphone makers, that would be USD 5.85 billion revenue per year. This would be higher than the glorious old days when revenue exceed USD 1 billion per year just on sound cards alone. It is humongous!!! Those days share price went up to $70 !   If Creative sold to 10% of the headphone makers, then obviously, you would be looking at Creative being worth USD 5.85 billion or higher. It was valued at this before. Don&rsquo t say it wont happen again.
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Andy80 Senior	02-Mar-2018 10:06        Andy80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	ouch  machidrain      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 10:04) Posted: shorting at 4.3.. too high.
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machidrain Veteran	02-Mar-2018 10:04        machidrain About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	shorting at 4.3.. too high.
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lifeisgood Supreme	02-Mar-2018 10:00        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Bit coin went from $1,000 to $20,000. Creative can go from $1.00 to $20 also?
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chillipadi Elite	02-Mar-2018 09:53        chillipadi About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Everything is temporary."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Thanks, Creative! =)
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Andy80 Senior	02-Mar-2018 09:23        Andy80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You can ontinue to short if you deem is a bull trap.    machidrain      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 09:22) Posted: this is a bull trap. to trap longists. Sgvale      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 09:13) Posted: Looks like very stable. 稳 如 泰 山 。 Towards $5
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machidrain Veteran	02-Mar-2018 09:22        machidrain About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	this is a bull trap. to trap longists. Sgvale      ( Date: 02-Mar-2018 09:13) Posted: Looks like very stable. 稳 如 泰 山 。 Towards $5
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Sgvale Supreme	02-Mar-2018 09:13        Sgvale About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Looks like very stable. 稳 如 泰 山 。 Towards $5
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commando Master	02-Mar-2018 08:52        commando About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Good luck
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machidrain Veteran	02-Mar-2018 08:42        machidrain About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	shorting now.
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Sgvale Supreme	02-Mar-2018 08:06        Sgvale About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Oh God Dow down 300 & 400 points in 2 consecutive days. Sell when open!
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commando Master	01-Mar-2018 22:20        commando About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	So all predict down tml...hmmmm....but the stick unpredictable de
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chillipadi Elite	01-Mar-2018 21:39        chillipadi About Contact  Quote this Post!   Yells: "Everything is temporary."
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You may be correct on T+5 and is friday. Plus last friday there was major selldown that triggered circuit breaker twice, from 3.39 to 2.62 within 10mins. And closed at 2.88. But my average price still allows some buffer of +/- :) Be it to longists or shortists, lets good luck to one another. machidrain      ( Date: 01-Mar-2018 17:24) Posted: nice closing is a bull trap, expect tomorrow to dip as T+5 and friday. i will short tomorrow
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lifeisgood Supreme	01-Mar-2018 20:50        lifeisgood About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	disappointed with DBS target price.
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Wind22i Supreme	01-Mar-2018 20:45        Wind22i About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They also recommend midas..earlier but when it goes wrong they took out their recommendation :)
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lsk007 Senior	01-Mar-2018 20:38        lsk007 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes, correct they are inaccurate. Because a bullish projection should be $26 and not $8ish. RocketTrader      ( Date: 01-Mar-2018 16:28) Posted: DBS has not been reading this forum. They are often inaccurate in projections and future case trading.
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Andy80 Senior	01-Mar-2018 17:40        Andy80 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Indeed!  commando      ( Date: 01-Mar-2018 11:07) Posted: Float too little to short
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