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Morello Veteran	16-Aug-2017 12:03        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i don' t know and u don' t know the value until the day u sell at loss or gain lor...now Hi-P with 19 cents is a diff case..that one really hard cash bernardc      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:59) Posted: HAHA..UP TO YOU TO EVALUATE.. ANY WAY 4 SHARES BECOMES 5..WHATS THE VALUE..U DECIDE Morello      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:57) Posted: bonus issue is better for the coy compared to dividends, frees up cash and makes counter more liquid.  taking a $1 share and saying the 1 free share for every four is worth 20 cents dividends, it is not..
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bernardc Elite	16-Aug-2017 11:59        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	HAHA..UP TO YOU TO EVALUATE.. ANY WAY 4 SHARES BECOMES 5..WHATS THE VALUE..U DECIDE Morello      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:57) Posted: bonus issue is better for the coy compared to dividends, frees up cash and makes counter more liquid.  taking a $1 share and saying the 1 free share for every four is worth 20 cents dividends, it is not... bernardc      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:35) Posted: 1 for 4 bonus..ie 20 cents bonus issue?
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Morello Veteran	16-Aug-2017 11:57        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	bonus issue is better for the coy compared to dividends, frees up cash and makes counter more liquid.  taking a $1 share and saying the 1 free share for every four is worth 20 cents dividends, it is not... bernardc      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:35) Posted: 1 for 4 bonus..ie 20 cents bonus issue?? Poohiepooh      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:33) Posted: Hehe.. no worries for those long.
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bernardc Elite	16-Aug-2017 11:50        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	on 11 august ..UMS proposs bonus issue of 1 for 4.. nowarok      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:47) Posted: the 20 cents bonus is for Hi-P (19 cents to be exact) bernardc      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:35) Posted: 1 for 4 bonus..ie 20 cents bonus issue?
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nowarok Member	16-Aug-2017 11:47        nowarok About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	the 20 cents bonus is for Hi-P (19 cents to be exact) bernardc      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:35) Posted: 1 for 4 bonus..ie 20 cents bonus issue?? Poohiepooh      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:33) Posted: Hehe.. no worries for those long.
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bernardc Elite	16-Aug-2017 11:35        bernardc About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	1 for 4 bonus..ie 20 cents bonus issue?? Poohiepooh      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 11:33) Posted: Hehe.. no worries for those long.. michaeltan      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 10:15) Posted: What' s 2 c dividend...Just Short the bugger until go to geylang..
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Poohiepooh Member	16-Aug-2017 11:33        Poohiepooh About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Hehe.. no worries for those long.. michaeltan      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 10:15) Posted: What' s 2 c dividend...Just Short the bugger until go to geylang... bishan22      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 10:06) Posted: It has 20 c div as a carrot.... cannot comprain...
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michaeltan Master	16-Aug-2017 10:15        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What' s 2 c dividend...Just Short the bugger until go to geylang... bishan22      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 10:06) Posted: It has 20 c div as a carrot.... cannot comprain.... Octavia      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 10:01) Posted: Why har whereas Hi-P still steady as a rock
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bishan22 Supreme	16-Aug-2017 10:06        bishan22 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It has 20 c div as a carrot.... cannot comprain.... Octavia      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 10:01) Posted: Why har whereas Hi-P still steady as a rock. bishan22      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 09:58) Posted: 3 days dropped 15c....very deep liao......
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Octavia Supreme	16-Aug-2017 10:01        Octavia About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why har whereas Hi-P still steady as a rock. bishan22      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 09:58) Posted: 3 days dropped 15c....very deep liao......
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bishan22 Supreme	16-Aug-2017 09:58        bishan22 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	3 days dropped 15c....very deep liao......
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zygothfisher Member	16-Aug-2017 09:43        zygothfisher About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	wow...1.025 now....yeah
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michaeltan Master	16-Aug-2017 09:42        michaeltan About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yesterday shorted 100.lots. This morning shorted 100.lots. Easy money. later in the afternoon then cover. Huat Ah!   maccer      ( Date: 16-Aug-2017 09:40) Posted: dropping like rock into the velley.
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zygothfisher Member	16-Aug-2017 09:41        zygothfisher About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	yoyoyo...i am here i am here....
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maccer Master	16-Aug-2017 09:40        maccer About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	dropping like rock into the velley.
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Morello Veteran	16-Aug-2017 09:34        Morello About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood: Yells: "In it for the long haul"
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	quite volatile prices last 1.015 down 5cents picked more
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chengwh1 Elite	15-Aug-2017 19:22        chengwh1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	That' s right,...  following  Listing Rules,... first, during AGM, gotten shareholder approval, then upon proposal of Bonus Issues to be given out by the company,... needed SGX approval. The AIP - Approval In-Principle will normally come  in 1 month after the proposal, depending on when they apply. sun233      ( Date: 15-Aug-2017 18:37) Posted: Apologies they don' t need shareholder approval. They already got it. They need sgx approval. sun233      ( Date: 15-Aug-2017 18:26) Posted: Nothing to worry about. Penang expansion expenses.   Big boys just shaking the tree. Weakhands sell. Retailers are not savvy enouh to take on the big boys. Plus,   i think UMS has to get shareholder approval...( i' m not sure about this though)   No one has yet come out to calculate the projected share price after 25% shares added. These brokerages are trading to their advantage. Does anyone know what is their trading income. I have never checked. Bonus issue by all sentiments is a positive........... the key is to buy at a low price. The only threat is Korea and US. The US economy is growing ( this earning season has been good)   and tech is slated to grow especially during the holiday season and the release of the new i phone. Analysts are just harping on the fact that UMS biggest customer' s contract is up for re negotiation. BUT.   Dont forget this baby is a strong take over target.
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chengwh1 Elite	15-Aug-2017 19:17        chengwh1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I' m thinking rationally here,... look at all my postings today,... haha,.. don' t be overly happy with the Proposed Bonus Issues and  make assumptions,... tq for your explanations....bro,... AttasBoss      ( Date: 15-Aug-2017 18:30) Posted: Relax bro..dont panic la...make sure u read their FS throughly.. U see their cash and CF from ops improved...thats becoz their cash mainly in USD..and u see further they incurred forex loss near 2mil in 1H17 coz USD depn against sgd this year but mgmt speculate it will go up again in near future..but now they shortage of sgd to pay dividend etc so they borrow short term loan and hoping usd up then exchange to sgd. chengwh1      ( Date: 15-Aug-2017 17:51) Posted: The thing about this fall is : we want to know the reason why,.. apart from this, in fact, it is good for us to this opportunity to go in since the Bonus Issue has been proposed. There is another reason for the fall,.... I think,....  from another forum, there is an analysis of the metrics. This metric shocked me,.... I have always carried the mindset that since UMS' strength lies in its cash-generating capability, it should be debt-free,... BUT,.... Cash & Cash Equivalent (SGD million) 1Q2014 = 39.511 2Q2014 = 36.113 (debt = 5.000) Net Cash = 31.113 3Q2014 = 32.947 4Q2014 = 33.792 1Q2015 = 40.801 2Q2015 = 39.607 (no bank borrowing) 3Q2015 = 38.255 (no bank borrowing) 4Q2015 = 38.933 (no bank borrowing) 1Q2016 = 42.780 (no bank borrowing) 2Q2016 = 35.399 (debt = 1.249) 3Q2016 = 39.217 (debt = 0.249) 4Q2016 = 42.620 (debt = 0.249) 1Q2017 = 48.052 (debt = 0.249)          2Q2017= 62.954 (debt = 18.904) => net debt = 44.050 Look at the last line, for the most recent earnings report. There is a current short term debt of 18.904Mil ?? This increase of debt in the last reporting qtr is frightening. ... Opinions ?
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sun233 Elite	15-Aug-2017 19:04        sun233 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The last time UMS did a 1 for 4 bonus issue was in 2014.   Date Open High Low Close* Adj. close** Volum Jun 30, 2014 0.56 0.56 0.55 0.55 0.42 1,420,000 Jun 27, 2014 0.56 0.56 0.55 0.56 0.43 836,000 Jun 26, 2014 0.56 0.57 0.55 0.55 0.42 4,331,000 Jun 25, 2014 0.56 0.57 0.56 0.56 0.43 562,000 Jun 24, 2014 0.57 0.57 0.56 0.56 0.43 1,882,000 Jun 23, 2014 0.57 0.58 0.56 0.56 0.43 2,412,000 Jun 20, 2014 0.55 0.58 0.55 0.57 0.44 8,251,000 Jun 19, 2014 0.55 0.56 0.55 0.55 0.42 1,920,000 Jun 18, 2014 0.55 0.56 0.54 0.55 0.42 5,168,000 Jun 17, 2014 0.56 0.56 0.55 0.55 0.42 1,374,000 Jun 16, 2014 0.56 0.56 0.55 0.56 0.43 2,310,000 Jun 13, 2014 0.56 0.57 0.56 0.56 0.43 3,082,000 Jun 12, 2014 0.56 0.56 0.55 0.56 0.43 5,350,000 Jun 11, 2014 0.56 0.58 0.55 0.56 0.43 18,404,000 Jun 10, 2014 0.69 0.69 0.60 0.60 0.46 15,955,000 Jun 09, 2014 0.68 0.70 0.68 0.69 0.53 1,950,000 Jun 06, 2014 0.67 0.69 0.67 0.68 0.52 4,854,000 Jun 05, 2014 0.76 0.76 0.66 0.66 0.51 15,131,000 Jun 05, 2014 5/4  Stock split Jun 04, 2014 0.74 0.74 0.71 0.73 0.56 3,595,000 Jun 03, 2014 0.76 0.77 0.73 0.74 0.57 3,538,750 Jun 02, 2014 0.76 0.77 0.76 0.76 0.59 1,146,250 May 30, 2014 0.75 0.76 0.75 0.76 0.58 1,583,750 May 29, 2014 0.74 0.76 0.74 0.75 0.58 1,491,250 May 28, 2014 0.73 0.75 0.73 0.74 0.57 1,826,250 May 27, 2014 0.73 0.74 0.73 0.73 0.56 360,000 May 26, 2014 0.73 0.73 0.73 0.73 0.56 402,50
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sun233 Elite	15-Aug-2017 18:42        sun233 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Old pic but still applies
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