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Trespasserx Senior	15-Aug-2014 08:48        Trespasserx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes.. I do agree with that statement but is also mean when I am still in solid form in near future.. U might be in gaseous state... Ok ok joke joke only.. relax.. High blood pressure no good for your age counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:23) Posted: Don' t pretend that you are more mature than any of us here. You may not even be in solid form when I started trading. Trespasserx      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:20) Posted: Come on la.. At the end of the day.. This forum is for u to 'up' the value of the shares u holding and 'down' the values of the shares u just sold or not holding... Mature lal..
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danger Supreme	15-Aug-2014 08:41        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lucky03 I completely I agree with you on this !!!! Like I said u might be the only true hardcore investor left.... yr once buddy had ditched you despite arguing so desperate ly with earlybird about the good of NOL and long term investing And this long term investing I learn is now last for max few weeks to 1 or 2 mths only Enough to be out with no loss...heng ah Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:02) Posted: It will affect the market as a whole but your argument now is for people to sell NOL and buy into MIDAS because you switched and now giving reason why it is time to drop NOL because you sold out. Not very sincere recommendation and a bit patronizing when you kept addressing fellow bros and veteran but also calling anyone with differing opinion as dead wrong, naive, unbelievable. It will be interesting if earlybird re-emerges as you 2 can call each bros lah. counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 07:46) Posted: Yes and that is good news to me too as I still have holdings in some stocks, some substantially more than my holdings in NOL. However, Putin' s remarks do not mark the end of the crisis as he is an extremely sly leader. How the crisis will unfold is anybody' s guess. However, given  the influence of Putin' s remarks on the markets, one needs to understand that  the geo-political risk is not something that  can be confined to Ukraine like what you suggested, as far as an investor is concerned. The impact of the Ukraine crisis on the markets can be very substantial. You need to think far beyond the events in the shipping industry.
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famouspinky Supreme	15-Aug-2014 08:38        famouspinky About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A situation when bull and bears fight..who will prevail? Let's see:) counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:20) Posted: The sentence [However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL.] begins with the word HOWEVER. It  does not take an English expert to know that it is a typo. It should read [However, I am NOT encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL.] You may be too defensive and protective of NOL to see the typo.   Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:16) Posted: What you typed not what you said in your mouth : "Indeed, one of the reasons for my decision to sell NOL is that the market has presented me with more tools to make money in recent days. Midas is an example. However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL.
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counter Veteran	15-Aug-2014 08:29        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I do not agree with you on this. To me,    this forum is for people to share information so as to make a more informed investment decision. You may be using it to up or down the values of shares  but  it is rather childish to assume that the other bros think the same way as you do. Trespasserx      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:20) Posted: Come on la.. At the end of the day.. This forum is for u to 'up' the value of the shares u holding and 'down' the values of the shares u just sold or not holding... Mature lal..
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counter Veteran	15-Aug-2014 08:23        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Don' t pretend that you are more mature than any of us here. You may not even be in solid form when I started trading. Trespasserx      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:20) Posted: Come on la.. At the end of the day.. This forum is for u to 'up' the value of the shares u holding and 'down' the values of the shares u just sold or not holding... Mature lal..
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Trespasserx Senior	15-Aug-2014 08:20        Trespasserx About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Come on la.. At the end of the day.. This forum is for u to 'up' the value of the shares u holding and 'down' the values of the shares u just sold or not holding... Mature lal..
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counter Veteran	15-Aug-2014 08:20        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The sentence [However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL.] begins with the word HOWEVER. It  does not take an English expert to know that it is a typo. It should read [However, I am NOT encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL.] You may be too defensive and protective of NOL to see the typo.   Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:16) Posted: What you typed not what you said in your mouth : "Indeed, one of the reasons for my decision to sell NOL is that the market has presented me with more tools to make money in recent days. Midas is an example. However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL." counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:13) Posted: Lucky03, it is rather unethical of you to put words in my mouth.
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Lucky03 Elite	15-Aug-2014 08:16        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	What you typed not what you said in your mouth : "Indeed, one of the reasons for my decision to sell NOL is that the market has presented me with more tools to make money in recent days. Midas is an example. However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL." counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:13) Posted: Lucky03, it is rather unethical of you to put words in my mouth.
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counter Veteran	15-Aug-2014 08:13        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Lucky03, it is rather unethical of you to put words in my mouth.
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counter Veteran	15-Aug-2014 08:11        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are dead wrong again. I have never asked any bros to sell NOL. It is a personal decision. Indeed, I wish to pick up  NOL if the opportunities  occur.  Although I have picked up some Midas, I do not advise any bros to but or sell MIdas as it has its own set of problems albeit different from those of NOL. Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 08:02) Posted: It will affect the market as a whole but your argument now is for people to sell NOL and buy into MIDAS because you switched and now giving reason why it is time to drop NOL because you sold out. Not very sincere recommendation and a bit patronizing when you kept addressing fellow bros and veteran but also calling anyone with differing opinion as dead wrong, naive, unbelievable. It will be interesting if earlybird re-emerges as you 2 can call each bros lah. counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 07:46) Posted: Yes and that is good news to me too as I still have holdings in some stocks, some substantially more than my holdings in NOL. However, Putin' s remarks do not mark the end of the crisis as he is an extremely sly leader. How the crisis will unfold is anybody' s guess. However, given  the influence of Putin' s remarks on the markets, one needs to understand that  the geo-political risk is not something that  can be confined to Ukraine like what you suggested, as far as an investor is concerned. The impact of the Ukraine crisis on the markets can be very substantial. You need to think far beyond the events in the shipping industry.
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Lucky03 Elite	15-Aug-2014 08:02        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It will affect the market as a whole but your argument now is for people to sell NOL and buy into MIDAS because you switched and now giving reason why it is time to drop NOL because you sold out. Not very sincere recommendation and a bit patronizing when you kept addressing fellow bros and veteran but also calling anyone with differing opinion as dead wrong, naive, unbelievable. It will be interesting if earlybird re-emerges as you 2 can call each bros lah. counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 07:46) Posted: Yes and that is good news to me too as I still have holdings in some stocks, some substantially more than my holdings in NOL. However, Putin' s remarks do not mark the end of the crisis as he is an extremely sly leader. How the crisis will unfold is anybody' s guess. However, given  the influence of Putin' s remarks on the markets, one needs to understand that  the geo-political risk is not something that  can be confined to Ukraine like what you suggested, as far as an investor is concerned. The impact of the Ukraine crisis on the markets can be very substantial. You need to think far beyond the events in the shipping industry. Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 05:30) Posted: U.S.stocks closed higher on Thursday at August highs despite subpar economic data around the world, and after conciliatory remarks from Russian President Vladimir Putin eased geopolitical concerns.
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counter Veteran	15-Aug-2014 07:46        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Yes and that is good news to me too as I still have holdings in some stocks, some substantially more than my holdings in NOL. However, Putin' s remarks do not mark the end of the crisis as he is an extremely sly leader. How the crisis will unfold is anybody' s guess. However, given  the influence of Putin' s remarks on the markets, one needs to understand that  the geo-political risk is not something that  can be confined to Ukraine like what you suggested, as far as an investor is concerned. The impact of the Ukraine crisis on the markets can be very substantial. You need to think far beyond the events in the shipping industry. Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 05:30) Posted: U.S.stocks closed higher on Thursday at August highs despite subpar economic data around the world, and after conciliatory remarks from Russian President Vladimir Putin eased geopolitical concerns. counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 03:11) Posted: You are dead wrong to say the markets have not shared my concern. The following is the proof. Trading has largely been driven by uncertainty over the conflict between Russia and Ukraine of late, with many traders concerned about the potential fallout of any dramatic escalation. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-markets-stocks-idUSKBN0GE14J20140814 Equity futures and European stocks erased earlier losses after President Vladimir Putin said Russia will do everything it can to stop the conflict in eastern Ukraine. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-14/u-s-stock-index-futures-are-little-changed-amid-earnings.html Further, it is naive thinking the Ukraine crisis is likely to escalate into World War 3. You are a veteran trader and I am surprised by your lack of understanding of an economic world fighting with sanctions. As you said, the economic sanctions may temporary stall growth. Whether it will actually happen is one thing. The expectation that it may happen is sufficient to drive the markets lower. Will they be able to get around it by speeding up the decision to introduce more stimulus and QE to spur the Euro economy and asset purchase? Well, as you rightly pointed out, who knows. In any case, there will some time lag involved with the implementation of policies and this time interval could trigger uncertainty which could drive the markets lower. I remain optimistic about the future of NOL and not the present of NOL. You are more disappointed by the Q2 result than many of the bros here. That said, NOL has the potential to move higher, even in the short-term. However, I am less sure about the potential to move much higher, especially in the short-term. Will I rejoin NOL? Maybe. That will depend on many factors including geo-political factors, economic factors, the price of NOL relative to the prices of others stocks, etc. I am not  infatuated with NOL. To me, it is merely a tool to make money and  I have many tools. Indeed, one of the reasons for my decision to sell NOL is that the market has presented me with more tools to make money in recent days. Midas is an example.  However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as  it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL.
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Lucky03 Elite	15-Aug-2014 05:30        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	U.S.stocks closed higher on Thursday at August highs despite subpar economic data around the world, and after conciliatory remarks from Russian President Vladimir Putin eased geopolitical concerns. counter      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 03:11) Posted: You are dead wrong to say the markets have not shared my concern. The following is the proof. Trading has largely been driven by uncertainty over the conflict between Russia and Ukraine of late, with many traders concerned about the potential fallout of any dramatic escalation. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-markets-stocks-idUSKBN0GE14J20140814 Equity futures and European stocks erased earlier losses after President Vladimir Putin said Russia will do everything it can to stop the conflict in eastern Ukraine. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-14/u-s-stock-index-futures-are-little-changed-amid-earnings.html Further, it is naive thinking the Ukraine crisis is likely to escalate into World War 3. You are a veteran trader and I am surprised by your lack of understanding of an economic world fighting with sanctions. As you said, the economic sanctions may temporary stall growth. Whether it will actually happen is one thing. The expectation that it may happen is sufficient to drive the markets lower. Will they be able to get around it by speeding up the decision to introduce more stimulus and QE to spur the Euro economy and asset purchase? Well, as you rightly pointed out, who knows. In any case, there will some time lag involved with the implementation of policies and this time interval could trigger uncertainty which could drive the markets lower. I remain optimistic about the future of NOL and not the present of NOL. You are more disappointed by the Q2 result than many of the bros here. That said, NOL has the potential to move higher, even in the short-term. However, I am less sure about the potential to move much higher, especially in the short-term. Will I rejoin NOL? Maybe. That will depend on many factors including geo-political factors, economic factors, the price of NOL relative to the prices of others stocks, etc. I am not  infatuated with NOL. To me, it is merely a tool to make money and  I have many tools. Indeed, one of the reasons for my decision to sell NOL is that the market has presented me with more tools to make money in recent days. Midas is an example.  However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as  it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL. Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 02:15) Posted: Counter, so far, Dow and European markets may not have shared your concern with how far the Ukraine battle can escalate into 3rd World War. The economic sanctions may have temporary impact to stall growth but they should be able to get around it and who knows, may speed up the decision to introduce more stimulus and QE to spur the Euro economy and asset purchase. Well, you may have sold out but if NOL decides to move ahead and you still remain very optimistic, you are welcome to rejoin the NOL ship to buy back even if at higher price so long as it still have the potential to move much higher, right ?
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counter Veteran	15-Aug-2014 03:11        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	You are dead wrong to say the markets have not shared my concern. The following is the proof. Trading has largely been driven by uncertainty over the conflict between Russia and Ukraine of late, with many traders concerned about the potential fallout of any dramatic escalation. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-markets-stocks-idUSKBN0GE14J20140814 Equity futures and European stocks erased earlier losses after President Vladimir Putin said Russia will do everything it can to stop the conflict in eastern Ukraine. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-14/u-s-stock-index-futures-are-little-changed-amid-earnings.html Further, it is naive thinking the Ukraine crisis is likely to escalate into World War 3. You are a veteran trader and I am surprised by your lack of understanding of an economic world fighting with sanctions. As you said, the economic sanctions may temporary stall growth. Whether it will actually happen is one thing. The expectation that it may happen is sufficient to drive the markets lower. Will they be able to get around it by speeding up the decision to introduce more stimulus and QE to spur the Euro economy and asset purchase? Well, as you rightly pointed out, who knows. In any case, there will some time lag involved with the implementation of policies and this time interval could trigger uncertainty which could drive the markets lower. I remain optimistic about the future of NOL and not the present of NOL. You are more disappointed by the Q2 result than many of the bros here. That said, NOL has the potential to move higher, even in the short-term. However, I am less sure about the potential to move much higher, especially in the short-term. Will I rejoin NOL? Maybe. That will depend on many factors including geo-political factors, economic factors, the price of NOL relative to the prices of others stocks, etc. I am not  infatuated with NOL. To me, it is merely a tool to make money and  I have many tools. Indeed, one of the reasons for my decision to sell NOL is that the market has presented me with more tools to make money in recent days. Midas is an example.  However, I am encouraging the bros here to invest in Midas as  it has its own set of problems albeit different from that of NOL. Lucky03      ( Date: 15-Aug-2014 02:15) Posted: Counter, so far, Dow and European markets may not have shared your concern with how far the Ukraine battle can escalate into 3rd World War. The economic sanctions may have temporary impact to stall growth but they should be able to get around it and who knows, may speed up the decision to introduce more stimulus and QE to spur the Euro economy and asset purchase. Well, you may have sold out but if NOL decides to move ahead and you still remain very optimistic, you are welcome to rejoin the NOL ship to buy back even if at higher price so long as it still have the potential to move much higher, right ? ) counter      ( Date: 14-Aug-2014 23:39) Posted: It is a shame that there are still some people who think that a war can only be  fought with weapons. They don' t seem to have the slightest inkling of an economic war.
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Lucky03 Elite	15-Aug-2014 02:15        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Counter, so far, Dow and European markets may not have shared your concern with how far the Ukraine battle can escalate into 3rd World War. The economic sanctions may have temporary impact to stall growth but they should be able to get around it and who knows, may speed up the decision to introduce more stimulus and QE to spur the Euro economy and asset purchase. Well, you may have sold out but if NOL decides to move ahead and you still remain very optimistic, you are welcome to rejoin the NOL ship to buy back even if at higher price so long as it still have the potential to move much higher, right ? ) counter      ( Date: 14-Aug-2014 23:39) Posted: It is a shame that there are still some people who think that a war can only be  fought with weapons. They don' t seem to have the slightest inkling of an economic war.
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Lucky03 Elite	15-Aug-2014 02:05        Lucky03 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Savannah?s container traffic hits all-time high The Georgia Ports Authority reached an all-time high in container trade in July, surpassing even pre-recession levels.
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counter Veteran	14-Aug-2014 23:39        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is a shame that there are still some people who think that a war can only be  fought with weapons. They don' t seem to have the slightest inkling of an economic war.
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counter Veteran	14-Aug-2014 23:32        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-14/u-s-stock-index-futures-are-little-changed-amid-earnings.html
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counter Veteran	14-Aug-2014 23:29        counter About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Fundamental   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	The following is proof that the crisis in Ukraine does affect stock prices. For those bros who have only been analysing the shipping industry, it is time to start thinking about the wider geo-political factors. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-markets-stocks-idUSKBN0GE14J20140814 counter      ( Date: 14-Aug-2014 19:36) Posted: True. However, if Russia invades Ukraine, western countries will step up tougher sanctions on Russia. Retaliation from Russia aside, these sanctions will also hurt EU. Given that EU is the largest trading bloc in the world where the combined GDP is high than that of the US, it will have a spillover effect on the rest of the world. What do you think? Are you aware that the sanctions imposed on Russia by EU thus far have already started hurting EU? Lucky03      ( Date: 14-Aug-2014 19:15) Posted: NOL closed 0.96 to break above its 50d MA which it last crossed about 3 mths ago. If it breaks above 0.98, it will have recapture its 100d MA which is potentially a key turning point. It usually will experience a spike up whenever it successfully crossed above its 100d MA. Previous spike up has been in the range of 7c-20c but it dropped thereafter due to negative sentiment in overall shipping industry and depressed freight rate. The sentiment may be slightly less gloomy compared to 6 mths back when N. America was suffering from severed and prolonged winter. Geo-political risk aside, there is a better chance of sustainable turnaround this time. We will see if NOL can rise above 0.98 over next few days. As for geo-political risk, chances is that it will be confined to Ukraine as there is no serious political agenda for distraction inside Russia to justify escalation of the conflict to a world war.
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spore1 Supreme	14-Aug-2014 19:56        spore1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Indeed very good news!   Lucky03      ( Date: 14-Aug-2014 19:54) Posted: Demand increase outstripping supply growth in container shipping By Marcus Hand from Singapore Bimco sees a brighter outlook for the container shipping with demand growth now outstripping supply growth, but also warns that ?serious overcapacity remains?. In Bimco chief shipping analyst Peter Sand?s latest report on the container shipping market he noted that the demand side continues to improve on a global scale. ?Demand-side growth is outstripping supply-side growth now, which is something that improves the fundamental balance in the market. This difference is 1-2%, not a landslide change from one day to the next, but a most welcome move in the right direction,? Sand said. On the Asia ? Europe trade an improvement has been seen in spot rates with the average for January ? August 2014 at $1,281 per teu some 19.5% higher than the same period in 2013. However, on the transpacific Asia ? US West Coast trade rates have fallen 14% over the same period. With the container trade now into its peak season Sand noted it was ?off to a good start? on key trades from Asia. ?On 1 August, freight rates went higher, as supply matched the demand situation well. Bimco expects the spot freight rates to resist last year?s constant slide from early August to end-October on Far East to Europe,? he said. Despite deploying 41 new ultra-large containerships on the tradelane this year and the number of idle vessels at a three-year low, rates are back above the breakeven point. However, looking at the Asia - US West Coast and US East Coast trades the report noted that they ?seem exposed to a gradual deterioration in freight rates as the peak season passes?. Concluding though Sand said that despite the positives ?serious overcapacity remains?. Published inAmericas, Asia, Europe, Containers © Copyright 2014 Seatrade Communications Limited. Replication or redistribution in whole or in part is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Seatrade Communications Limited. spore1      ( Date: 14-Aug-2014 19:30) Posted: very strong breakout today and closed well at 96 cents + high vol. More likely to cross over 97.5 cents and head higher to 99 - $1.00 soon
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