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nott1965
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23-Aug-2021 13:42
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Caught it at 10.25 this morning. If drop somemore, will buy more from kancheong spiders and doomsayers. But now looks like price recovering from oversold
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mav1ryan
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23-Aug-2021 13:31
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I think the current price is attractive, however I will wait for it to go below $10 to start bargain hunting. | ||||
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PhillipTan
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23-Aug-2021 13:08
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At 10.2+, price is approaching the lower limit of the Bollinger band This may indicate a good buying opportunity DYODD though   |
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PhillipTan
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23-Aug-2021 13:02
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200k of the 300k losses came from investment in Spackman Entertainment, which is a penny stock What happened to - Portfolio diversification - Investment in companies with good fundamentals and track record etc That is not investment at all That is a high risk high value gamble in penny stocks in hope of turning a quick profit Seriously? Humptum-ing on penny stocks and expect it to rise? And calls himself a seasoned stock market investor? And then turned into a crybaby when he made huge losses? Isn' t that a joke?  
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nott1965
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23-Aug-2021 12:56
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You can chose to see it as the cup half full or half empty. It is the same as US market. Trade with your eyes open. Most important is to have your own views
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moonsun
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23-Aug-2021 12:14
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So those scandals reported are not true then ! :)
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nott1965
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23-Aug-2021 12:09
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The newsapaper article last Saturday was meant to sensationalise to gain readership. Those who invested in US market had also been scammed, depending on which companies you bought. They only chose to highlight someone who made money from US market and lost in Singapore. I have friends who were the reverse. Scammed in US market and made money in Singapore market. Why only target SGX? SPH no longer published newspapers with integrity. Look at those who believed the ST analyst who recommended about HKLand, Tuan Sing, OUE, Kim Heng, etc. All died |
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PhillipTan
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23-Aug-2021 11:14
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Pack up and close shop = no more stock exchange in Singapore Don' t think our garmen will allow it  
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moonsun
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23-Aug-2021 10:55
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Those other business ie are side lines to diversity their income & yet to bear fruits.. if they cannot even regulate their core business mkt ? how to expect them to attract & regulated other more exotic business? Again the investors will kenna blue black due to lack of supervisory action and once more back to zombie.. think the obvious ans is that they already sliding down that slippery slope to nowhere when they let those frauds & cons run freely.. and in Singapore where they taunt to be a reputable financial hub ! I stay clear first till they can get their act together ? | ||||
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nott1965
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23-Aug-2021 10:31
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This was what doomsayers and kancheong spiders believed last year when SGX lost the MSCI licence and fell into the traps of kateks. This buying and selling are also helping to generate more profit for SGX. Think carefully before you sell. I already made 1 round last year. Now picking up more if there are more kancheong spiders
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RickyCheng
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23-Aug-2021 10:09
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What was once an " S-chip problem" has spread to the rest of the market over the past few years. Big companies like Hyflux and Noble, Singapore-based companies like Best World and Trek 2000, and Eagle Hospitality Trust are some of the names that have collapsed, wiping out investors' money along with them. Eagle Hosp. stands out as the must history lesson for posterity.   
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matthew_kuan
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23-Aug-2021 10:01
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They have totally lost the plot and the slide of its stock price is justifiable..given its lack of ideas and innovation (it is just clueless)....the current price of > 10 is still way way over priced...my take on its fair value is about 7-8....
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gslgsl
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23-Aug-2021 09:51
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The dividen for this counter always stay the same at 8 cents regardless of the profit. | ||||
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matthew_kuan
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23-Aug-2021 09:48
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Moving forward it is only going to get tougher given the rubbish that SGX is....an Exchange with a < 11B market cap....should just pack it up and close shop. Work on other stuff that brings in more value and contribution to the country. | ||||
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invest8
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23-Aug-2021 09:31
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Earlier this month, was 12+. Now after less than a month, 10+ only.. 
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uiop1223
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22-Aug-2021 12:34
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SGX knows and its getting income from other revenue streams and not from equities market | ||||
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moonsun
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22-Aug-2021 12:19
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Sgx.. not sure if worth $10 ? do yr own dd?
By Mak Yuen Teen I was recently asked by a business newspaper for my views on the state of our equities market. As is often the case, I provided a very comprehensive response even though I knew that the journalist will only be able to use just a little of what I wrote. In this article, I share more fully my views on the topic. Recent scandals and problems on the stock market In the past, many of the scandals and problems were with S-chips, which were allowed to list without adequate consideration by the SGX and other regulators of their unique governance risks and our inability to enforce rules for such companies. There was also insufficient due diligence by those responsible for bringing such companies to the market. Many investors lost big and the sector has been decimated. Ten years ago, we had more than 150 S-chips, and today we are down to 71 (it's now 72 based on the July statistics just released by SGX). Most of them have simply collapsed and delisted, or have been suspended for a long time. The rest are shunned because many investors believe, with justification, that more will unravel. Just over the first 6 months of this year, another 6 S-chips have disappeared. I am not saying they are all going to collapse, but I think we will continue to see more doing so. There has been little accountability for the debacle and investors have had zero recourse. Unfortunately, the problems have spread to the rest of the market over the last few years ? it is no longer just an S-chip problem involving companies such as Midas (remember that one, which was supposed to be one of the better S-chips?). We have had major problems and/or collapses involving non-Chinese foreign listings (e.g., YuuZoo, Ayondo, Spackman, MMP), big companies (e.g., Noble, Hyflux, Ezra group), smaller Singapore-based companies (e.g., Datapulse, Jason Marine, Epicentre, Trek2000 International, Allied Technologies) and even a big REIT (EHT). Many have run into trouble soon after listing (e.g., Ayondo, EHT, DLF, Y Ventures, No Signboard). And of course we also had the penny stock scandal. Add to that are many companies engaging in questionable transactions or RTOs, or with serious disclosure lapses - the latest example being Raffles Education which failed to disclose RM410m writs filed against it and two subsidiaries for more than two months. Who would want to invest in such a market, where bad companies are everywhere, and companies providing big upside returns are so rare? Investors understand that they will have to accept losses due to business risks, but they should not be expected to accept losses due to poor corporate governance or fraud. Caveat emptor does not mean anything goes. Rebuilding investor confidence In terms of rebuilding investor trust, I have been saying for years that we must start with strong investor protection. The developed markets understand that strong investor protection is the bedrock of a strong capital market. Even other Asian markets like Taiwan and Malaysia understand that. Here, we are mainly concerned with how to attract more listings or to stem delistings. We come up with dual class shares (DCS), discontinuing quarterly reporting, removing MTP watchlist, and now the plan to allow SPACs. Recent listings do not give me much confidence that quality on the whole is improving. While SGX Regco has strengthened certain rules and improved its surveillance, and there are signs that they and other regulators are stepping up, we have yet to see results. I worry that they will simply be overwhelmed as we have not stemmed the listing of poor quality companies. Over the past 10 to 15 years, regulators have done little to hold directors, issue managers, sponsors, auditors etc accountable. We have also done virtually nothing to improve the ability of investors to take action against issuers and directors. Certain rules will need to be improved to better protect ordinary investors, and there should be much stronger enforcement and improvements in the ability of investors to seek recourse. Investors are already investing elsewhere Both asset managers and retail investors have told me that they are deeply concerned about the state of our stock market. Some have shared about losing their shirts even investing in so-called "blue chips". One investor told me he will only invest in the bluest of blue chips. Others have simply given up. Today, investors have plenty of options in terms of where and what to invest in. They can easily invest in overseas stocks. The lack of strong investor protection affects liquidity and valuations, which affects our ability to attract good quality companies . So, the markets with stronger investor protection ultimately end up with better quality companies on average. Investors here also recognise that they are far more likely to be able to find (or stumble on) an early stage Amazon, Facebook, Apple, etc in those bigger overseas markets than here. Here, they are more likely to stumble on the next Midas or Noble. The risk-reward tradeoff is just better in those markets in their view. Time is not on our side Regulators need to prioritise investor protection and rebuilding investor confidence - if it is not already too late. They must not forget the lessons of the S-chip debacle, by allowing companies to list without adequate assessment of whether they will be able to enforce rules against them and investors will be adequately protected. I believe we nearly repeated that mistake with DCS ? but thankfully, because our regulators were not totally oblivious to the risks and put in many safeguards, it has ironically made our DCS regime unattractive for companies that want to adopt such a structure. My worry is that they will relax these safeguards and there is a good chance that we will repeat the mistake with SPACs. Secondary listings may become the backdoor for poor quality listings, since these listings do not have to comply with most SGX rules. We should aim for a market with good quality companies, not aim to increase the number of listings regardless of quality. The KPIs of the management of SGX may warrant scrutiny. Enforcement actions take far too long and are not sufficiently transparent Enforcement needs to be timely. I understand the importance of due process but from my analysis of timeliness of enforcement actions in the early 2000s and now, enforcement actions are clearly much slower now. And I am not referring just to overseas companies where there may be cross-border challenges in investigations. If there is a clear breach of listing rules for example, it should not take years for directors to be reprimanded. SGX Regco is still too conservative in using public reprimands against directors, particularly independent directors. Other types of regulatory actions, especially those criminal prosecutions, will understandably take longer but even then, I think they often take too long. There have been cases of directors being arrested, with nothing further heard for years. Presumably in some cases, charges were not filed and the cases dropped. The market is left wondering why. Today, an announcement of an arrest of directors may elicit a response of ?we have seen this movie before, nothing will happen?. In contrast, look at the case of Nikola Corporation in the US where the regulator has announced fraud charges against the founder late last month. The alleged fraud was exposed by a short seller in September last year, less than a year ago. I understand we may not have the resources to be as efficient as markets like the U.S., but enforcement must improve and be more transparent. Zombieland There are many companies which have been suspended for a long time and many other companies heading towards zombie status as we can see them just slowly dying. They often do placements/rights issues, drain more cash, and then repeat. Our regulators give too long a leash to many of them, by approving their new shares for listing giving them extension after extension to get out of the watchlist, announce results, and hold AGMs approving a transfer from the Mainboard to Catalist or allowing them to remain trading despite repeated modified or disclaimer of opinions by auditors. These companies may then try a RTO with a rubbish company. I know retail investors often want these companies to be given the chance to survive for as long as possible. To me, the endgame is clear for most of these companies ? they either get delisted now or they will be delisted in a few years. I have rarely seen a zombie re-join the land of the living. |
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moneynoenough
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21-Aug-2021 17:28
Yells: "ikan bilis " |
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The Business Times
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ozone2002
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18-Aug-2021 10:26
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Last:10.93        +0.31nice rebound play gd luck dyodd
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PhillipTan
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16-Aug-2021 20:14
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SGX' s earnings could dip 19.4% in FY22 on higher expensesPhillipCapital has reduced its FY2022 earnings forecast by 19.4% to incorporate the Singapore Exchange' s (SGX) higher expenses guidance of between $565 million to $575 million.This comes after SGX posted a weak set of FY2021 results ended June 30. PhillipCapital says the guidance is an 8.6% increase from FY2021 at the mid-point. More than 50% of the increase will be for near-term investments, which include the setting up of a foreign exchange electronic communication network, climate-related initiatives and continued investments in BidFX and Scientific Beta. " We raise FY2022 operational expenditure by 29.8% to the mid-point of guidance," PhillipCapital' s senior analyst Terence Chua writes in an Aug 12 report. PhillipCapital has maintained its " neutral" call for the stock with a lower target price of $11.54 from $11.95 previously. As at 2.23 pm, SGX was up 1 cent or 0.1% at $10.82 with 1.1 million shares changed hands. The counter is trading at 9.4 times P/BV with an FY2021 dividend yield of 2.9%, according to PhillipCapital' s estimates.   |
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