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Oceanus major business model restructure
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Catrade
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05-Feb-2021 00:18
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Thks Oceanus supporters, especially Gregtan & Dexter, both of u had and hv contributed much to Oceanus current value/price despite onslaught by shortist & Algo Bots... Well done n keep up the positive spirit!  We will see more gain as the company releases its Q4 2020 and eventually exit from SGX watchlist and maybe more positive news along the way.... | ||||
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gregtan123
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04-Feb-2021 23:45
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$Oceanus^(579.SI) greg_dfvalue EVEN MALAY eat Abalone? Dubai, Middle East! Trade Oil for Abalones? HUAT LA. FINAL DUE D by greg_dfvalue!
 
YONG HUI: Is abalone consumption growing?
 
PETER: Yes, I think people will eat more abalone in the future. A lot of restaurants and weddings are now shying away from shark' s fins due to environmental reasons. This helps increase the demand for abalone.  Recently, many are also using abalone in yusheng instead of raw fish. Petrol kiosks also ran out of abalone during the Chinese New Year period.
 
YONG HUI: What is your retail strategy? Are you competing on price?
 
PETER: I don&rsquo t want to fight on price, because if we fight a price war, the company will not survive. We will price it in a way which is value for money, with the focus on quality, rather than being cheap or expensive. Generally, abalone isn&rsquo t cheap as people know. Anyone who buys abalone does not mind paying a few more dollars. They go for the quality and taste. We also want our abalones  to be  halal-certified.
 
YONG HUI: Are non-Chinese eating abalone?
 
PETER: It is still a small number now, but it will grow with education. Some try out  of curiosity. Why do the Chinese like it so much? It is slowly opening up, and this will give us a larger market.
 
YONG HUI: Is Indonesia one of the markets you want to educate?
 
PETER: We are looking to enter the whole of Asia-Pacific.
 
YONG HUI: Where can people expect to find your abalone?
 
PETER: We will start with e-commerce because we are not large-scale enough for the traditional channels&mdash neither do we have the retail operations or the SKUs for that, so we will tie up with ecommerce partners, as well as through our own ecommerce channel.
 
MORALITY ETHICS CHECK
 
YONG HUI: How do you ensure the quality of your abalone?
 
PETER: For example, even though we have to pay two or three times more to ship our abalones to Australia to process it there, we do it. We have been approached by very questionable vendors in China who promised us many things. They say they can &ldquo value-add&rdquo at no extra cost, to make the abalones look bigger and whiter. The only condition is not to  ask how they do it! We are not comfortable with such things.
 
POWER INDON BIZ
 
YONG HUI: Will your canned abalones be branded Oceanus?
 
PETER: Yes, and that explains why we are so careful about this, because we are literally  putting the company' s name on the product.
 
YONG HUI: What has been the response so far?
 
PETER: There was this Indonesia couple whom I know through a friend&mdash they wanted to throw a feast and wanted to buy some abalone, so we sent them a few cans. They got back, with an order for ten cartons. We are not the cheapest, but yet they chose our abalones. She brought me into their kitchen and showed me a whole row of other brands they had tried. She asked why our abalones aren&rsquo t bigger. . . so I explained to her.
 
HOW NOT TO INVEST IN OCEANUS AND THIS MAN [Read on]
 
PETER: What shareholders should do is believe in themselves. After seeing what we as a company is doing to change, they have to decide. In the past, there was a lot of talk,  but nothing happened. Right now, they have to see for themselves whether we have changed, and did we see things through and deliver our plans.  During our last AGM, there were a lot of questions from disgruntled shareholders, but  what started off as  a rowdy crowd, at  the end, they understood better  where  Oceanus is heading. What took me by surprise was this middle-aged lady who shouted: Mister CEO, now that you have said all these, should I buy more shares? [laughs] That was  a very difficult question. Look, I cannot control the market. I can tell you what the direction of the company is, but I cannot tell you how to invest your money.  Interestingly enough,  this other gentleman who was quite vocal shouted back&mdash what are you waiting for? Go and buy!
 
YONG HUI: Will you consider taking the company private?
 
PETER: We don' t have that in mind.
 
YONG HUI: Might that be beneficial for the company?
 
PETER: It won&rsquo t be beneficial to the shareholders. When you do that, it is over for the shareholders who bought earlier. It isn&rsquo t doing them a service.  My moral obligation is to do well for our shareholders and employees. I have to be accountable to shareholders.
 
https://www.hnworth.com/article/become/high-profiles/peter-koh-ceo-oceanus-group-limited/
 
 
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DexterT
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04-Feb-2021 23:36
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The shorts are trying way too hard to short Oceanus.
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gregtan123
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04-Feb-2021 23:29
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$Oceanus^(579.SI) SHORT Interest
 
Oceanus^ 19463900 SGD 1218119.6
 
Ave Price: 0.0625835
Close: 0.064
Lose: 27,570 SGD b4 comms, RIP Shorts.
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gregtan123
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04-Feb-2021 23:22
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$Oceanus^(579.SI) Singaporean Company: Hire Singaporean, For Singaporean. Yet some choose to invest in Foreigner $DBS(D05.SI) $SIA(C6L.SI) $SingTel(Z74.SI) INVEST in SINGAPORE, INVEST in URSELF, INVEST in ur Children! Not White, Not India, Not other places! ALL-IN!
 
Also OCEANUS part of SG Govt Budget 2019!!!!! HENG SWEE KEAT mentioned Oceanus LEI!
 
 BUDGET 2019: Supporting our workers and firms
 Overseas internship prepared her for job with Singapore firm
  
Ms Bernice Chan was only 19 when she went to China to intern at a farm run by seafood supply chain manager Oceanus Group.
 
During her time at the farm in Xiamen, in Fujian province, she did maintenance work, fed abalones and did preparation work for periods when abalones would spawn.
 
Now, the 21-year-old is working as a management trainee with the Singapore firm.
 
Ms Chan is an example of how young Singaporeans should go overseas to gain exposure and work experience, Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat said in his Budget speech yesterday. He announced a programme to enhance funding support for students interning overseas with Singapore firms.
Ms Chan said: " The internship experience was eye-opening for me. It was a lot of fun working with the locals. I learnt a lot, from interpersonal skills to technical skills."
 
Ms Chan, who chose to study marine science and aquaculture at Republic Polytechnic, is now part of the operations team at the Oceanus farm. She helps with data collection and analysis, and conducts experiments to learn more about abalones.
 
" Overseas internships are important because you are given the opportunity to immerse yourself in a different environment... It is amazing what you gain from five months in different surroundings."
 
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/overseas-internship-prepared-her-for-job-with-singapore-firm
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DexterT
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04-Feb-2021 22:56
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Of course, always focusing on Oceanus until someone started something. I just had to follow through. Apologies.
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gregtan123
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04-Feb-2021 22:11
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relax, can we focus on Oceanus and its real story. stop this gme, reddit, Mas talk la. | ||||
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Mk8080
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04-Feb-2021 22:02
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Spotlight https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/stocks/singapore-equities-fall-on-thursday-sti-down-08 | ||||
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DexterT
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04-Feb-2021 21:48
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@bicboi Unlikely to mirror Gamestop frenzy. Relax brother. I am just a small fry, if my words are so powerful, I would be Elon Musk 2.0. https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/singapore-market-unlikely-to-mirror-gamestop-frenzy-market-watchers |
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DexterT
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04-Feb-2021 20:40
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Basically copying and pasting, never comparing. Great speculation.
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bicboi
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04-Feb-2021 20:28
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Love that confidence that you are comparing yourself to bank brokers, leave the promoting to the company itself | ||||
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DexterT
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04-Feb-2021 19:02
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How powerful are SGX traders to create a drama like GME? Singapore is so small bro. 6 million compared to 333 million in US. Rules have been implemented since the hoohaa on LionGold and Blumont back in 2013. Nothing of such will happen again in SGX. Besides, if any stocks were to go too high in a day, it will spark SGX queries.  Why look at this in a bad way? 
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AwakenTide
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04-Feb-2021 19:01
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Oceanus is the attraction by itself since the business has turned around profitable with bonafide leaderships, it is simply a spotlight. | ||||
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DexterT
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04-Feb-2021 18:58
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All these saying is based on '   What If' . All I did was summarised what UOBKayHian report says and share it with others. You think SGX have this much capital or traders to do a GME/AMC attack? Think about it. As you said, Singaporeans are all ' kiasu as hell' , will they be willing to put their money into stocks without researching first? Maybe some do, but how many would throw huge capital inside based on what I say? Or even better, how many of them have such huge capital to move the market. If you want brokers to limit shares on Oceanus, get US traders to enter. Push Oceanus to $5, $50, $500. If not, it will  NEVER  happen in SGX. Just think. Honestly, if what I did was wrong. Please bro, tell that to all the brokers, CIMB, UOBKayHian, DBS, tell them to stop writing reports because apparently, their report will catch MAS and SGX attention. Causing stocks to tumble.  
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bicboi
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04-Feb-2021 18:57
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dont create a GME situation, yes there were people who made a fortune out of that situation but there are also many people who bought at the top and is still bagholding the stock.  i am sure that the SG govt body will take serious precautions to prevent such a similar case to happen, and when they clamp down they dont give any chance. Just dont make the oceanus the first example, you really wont know what will happen particularly with the recent GME drama
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bicboi
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04-Feb-2021 18:45
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Just give you a scenario, what if MAS and SGX takes this seriously and investigates the situation? Regardless if what you pointed out is the truth or not, you need to understand the landscape of the asia stock market whereby people hear a little bit of such rumours and news they will run road. Trust me as a singaporean, we are kiasu as hell so you just think about it. What if SGX does the same thing as most brokers do? Limit the shares amount bought for oceanus for a short time period as a precaution? You think you are not doing anything wrong, but WHAT IF THIS TURNS SOUTH? then if that situtation happens then you ask yourself worth it? over a damn reddit post this counter get investigated. LET THE COMPANY DO IT FOR THEMSELVES, AS SHAREHOLDERS WE SUPPORT AND NOT CREATE THIS KIND OF OUTSIDE SPECULATION FOR THEM TO SETTLE.
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AwakenTide
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04-Feb-2021 18:35
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It didn' t shatter me a fair bit with kind of news. This is judgemental to jump the gun on what the writer think, afterall we have to DYODD and invest in prospective company with noble vision and profitable. It is like we are rearing a small fish to grow big in future. What' s wrong with that, right? | ||||
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SureStrike
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04-Feb-2021 18:31
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安 啦 ! 真 金 不 怕 火 炼 。
Oceanus the best. 👊 😃
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DexterT
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04-Feb-2021 18:30
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That Reddit post will be from me and honestly, I don t see anything wrong with posting what I feel about the company. I did not speculate nor did I ask others to buy-in. It was pure sharing.  Here is the post from Business Times. I shared it yesterday when it was released during lunch hours. Hot stock: Oceanus hits record high of 6.9 S cents amid Reddit speculation SHARES of Oceanus Group briefly reached 6.9 Singapore cents on Wednesday, the highest level they have traded at since 2012. As of 9.02 am, the watchlisted seafood supplier was trading 0.2 Singapore cent or 3 percent higher after some four million shares changed hands. The share price then eased slightly to an intraday low of 6.5 cents at 10.16 am, before rising back up to trade flat at 6.6 cents as at 11.32 am. No married deals were recorded in early trade, according to ShareInvestor. An online Reddit post submitted on Jan 31, 2021, highlighted Oceanus as a " great growth potential stock" for its increasing profits, large market share, and its pending application to exit the Singapore Exchange (SGX) watchlist this coming April. It also suggested a positive outlook for the group' s Q4 FY2020 results, which are due to be released sometime in February 2021. The post has since generated a 35-comment discussion as of 11.41 am on Wednesday. The shares have been steadily climbing since the group was last queried by SGX for " unusual price and volume movements" on Jan 21 after it achieved a then-record of 5.3 cents. In its response, Oceanus cited an unnamed stockbroking firm' s internal non-rated report issued on Jan 20 as a possible reason, which according to The Business Times could have referred to a report issued by UOB Kay Hian. Aside from a " strong turnaround" that Oceanus had undergone since chief executive Peter Koh took over in December 2014, the report opined that the recent setting up of Season Global, the group' s distribution business, would enable Oceanus to " penetrate China and deliver exponential growth" . The group' s expansion into high-tech farming would help it build a regional presence, it added. The news article was not negative and besides, the points I shared were facts, not speculation. Here is the link to my Reddit post. Link:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Sgxbets/comments/l9au9t/oceanus_upside_potential/ 1st Point - Oceanus profit has been increasing by X00% year after year from 2018 (Facts) 2nd Point - Oceanus currently have no debt (Facts) 3rd Point - Former Minister Yaccob Ibrahim joined Oceanus (Facts) 4th Point - Oceanus will be applying out of SGX in April 2021, results in Q3/4 2021 (Facts) 5th Point - Moving towards Food-Tech space (Facts) 6th Point - 24 billion shares, lower volatility compared to other penny stocks like Place HDLG, China Food (Facts) Additional Point 1 - Oceanus result will be released in February (Facts) Additional Point 2 - February CNY = More Abalone sales (Facts) None of these points is speculation. If it is, please write to UOBKayHian and ask the company to stop speculation.  Besides, if I share anything, I would always ask others to do their own due diligence, unlike Reddit WallStreetBets and you. From what I see, you did not do yours before coming to the conclusion that this brings in negative media publicity.  
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bicboi
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04-Feb-2021 18:05
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who go post on reddit zzzz dont want to have this kinda negative media publicity pls, later get investigated then you see the price plummet. please dont shoot yourself in the foot, that one person will cause trouble for everyone here.
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