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Tipster88
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20-Dec-2021 15:06
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Looks like cash flows will be affected but not the P& L. DPU cutting again?   
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Potato
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20-Dec-2021 14:38
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In any case, this is the time where the CEO comes out form the rabbit hole and tell everyone " Ann lah... no worries lah" ... Not saying anything is no good. | ||||
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Tipster88
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20-Dec-2021 14:24
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" The  key difference  between a provision and a contingent liability is that  provision is accounted for at present as a result of a past event whereas a contingent liability is recorded at present to account for a possible future outflow of funds." Looks like the present shareholders are suffering due to what happened in the past... Year after year, have tax & penalties issues.... neverending....
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FATABA
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20-Dec-2021 13:50
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1. If this was indeed disclosed AND provision made ...means $$ are set aside to handle this . All shareholders wld more likely no affect  ( in fact, if the case is cleared , the provision wld not be needed and go back into profit)  2. However, IF NO provision are made ...means this A$300M wld be NEEDED , it will be taken from the future profit if there is .  ( cash call might be needed but unlikely in Singtel case ....dividend might be cut to pay for this is possible )  DYODD
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Tipster88
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20-Dec-2021 13:27
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Disclosed as liabilities but no provisions provided in previous years or already written back as profits? How does it works anyway...?
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gosharej
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20-Dec-2021 13:24
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Fully suport your view.    They thought small investors can easily be bully and they first give you lots of hope, sell you higher price, then later, the surprise.  This is  how they spin and take your money for other purposes, till they are happy, next round, small little dividend for you.    The show will go on and on.  Indeed, I see those high flyers should have the paycut. Include the TM team.    | ||||
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ksangks
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20-Dec-2021 13:03
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They will push to next management . Ljy push to Chua sock koon , Chie pushed to present team , the game will just continue , draw multi millions saleries , can sweep under the carpet , just sweep it . Job protection is more important
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slingshotpro
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20-Dec-2021 12:43
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When the news broke out in 2016, singtel was trading at $3.83, 6 years later, it is trading at $2.32 when this news again. I believe the management will continue to kick the can down the road until 2028
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JustOnce
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20-Dec-2021 11:11
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according to Business Times, " Singtel' s exposures were " fully disclosed" as contingent liabilities in its audited financial statements in prior periods, it added." https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/singtel-flags-a304m-of-exposure-interest-and-penalties-from-australian-tax-case  
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FATABA
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20-Dec-2021 11:09
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I really HOPE this management will take " ownership and responaibility"   why was there NO provision set aside ?  ( even if it was not cause by this mgt ....when yu take over /as someone responsible provision should be set aside /u never know u can win the TAX department )  So again , I do have big concern on this current management . just hope it is just a blue moon.  Dyodd
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Speediman
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20-Dec-2021 10:59
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Singtel should consider to sell more parts of Optus. Bring home some capital to invest in something spicier.  Optus is a dead market!      |
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halleluyah
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20-Dec-2021 10:49
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tikam some to long..........its going to be stronger after all tis set back....... | ||||
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Potato
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20-Dec-2021 10:45
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Good morning~~ last time it was Ah Nei... now it is Kangeroo. Sicktel really a fat milking cow for them. Some top managemnet might have know this coming already and decided to sell Kangeroo towers to pay for this lol~~ Wonder when will Indonasia and Thailand come? | ||||
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john_ric
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20-Dec-2021 10:35
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Below 2.5 now | ||||
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JustOnce
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20-Dec-2021 09:51
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Yeah I got in pre-covid and did ave down and bought some at 2.15. so now my ave is 2.8 if it drops some more I might ave down but then again, there are other counters that looks to have mo upside. so still looking. 
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Zerocool888
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20-Dec-2021 09:44
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Yap. Sama sama! I think we have almost the same average!
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Zerocool888
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20-Dec-2021 09:42
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You have some spare cash from dividend mar. Hahaha?.
Plus I did mentioned before that if you treat stock market like casino looking for quick buck, confirm you will get burn badly. Many do not seem to understand.
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vivacious
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20-Dec-2021 09:39
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below 230 i will go in ave down. 
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Zerocool888
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20-Dec-2021 09:39
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Hmmm?..still have not pass below my average price. Confirm will buy in and lower my average further if it goes down with the dividend I earn. Singtel made a good and bad move. Hahaha. Good for long term holders as longists can buy in more to average lower. Bad is for those who wanted free money (where got such thing as free money) but kena trap now due to GREED! Have mentioned before, Singtel is for long term holders. Short term holder will not be bothered with this counter
This is not a financial advise. As mentioned as well, all investments comes with low, medium and high risk. Do your own DD before ANY investments. |
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Joelton
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20-Dec-2021 09:38
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Singtel may have a A$304 million tax bill in Australia
 
Singapore Telecommunications (Singtel) may have to pay the Australian Tax Office (ATO) around A$304 million. Its Australian unit received " an unfavourable judgment" from the Federal Court of Australia in respect of its action against the Commissioner of Taxation, the telco says.
 
The court case relates to the acquisition financing of Singtel Optus Pty Limited in 2001. In what was then the largest acquisition by a Singapore company, Singtel paid A$17 billion for Optus, Australia' s second largest telco after incumbent Telstra.
 
In 2016 and 2017, Singtel&rsquo s Australian unit, Singapore Telecom Australia Investments (STAI), received amended assessments from the ATO, comprising primary tax of A$268 million, interest of A$58 million and penalties of A$67 million, for a total of A$393 million.
 
Singtel says that STAI&rsquo s holding company, Singtel Australia Investment Ltd, would be entitled to a corresponding refund of withholding tax estimated at A$89 million.
As such, the net tax exposure and related interest and penalties amount to A$304 million. 
 
The potential tax bill was announced in Singtel&rsquo s 2021 annual report where it stated that no provision for this amount had been made as at Mar 31, 2021.
Singtel' s annual report says that STAI&rsquo s objections to the amended assessments were disallowed by the ATO on September 27, 2019. Based on legal advice, STAI appealed the ATO&rsquo s objection decisions in the Federal Court of Australia on November 11, 2019. 
 
Singtel then said that in accordance with the ATO administrative practice, STAI paid a minimum amount of 50% of the assessed primary tax on 21 November 2016. This payment continued to be recognised as a receivable as at March 31. 2021.
 
" After seeking to settle this matter with the ATO in good faith and failing to reach an agreement as to the application of the law, STAI sought clarity from the court process.&rdquo  
 
Singtel says it is committed to complying with tax obligations in markets where it has operations. " STAI, as the head tax entity of the Optus group, continues to be a significant taxpayer in Australia. 
" The Singtel Group will consider the details of the judgment, explore available options and determine next steps. If the above tax exposures are assessed to be probable, provisions shall be made in the accounts," states the company on Dec 19.
 
The telco will " explore available options and determine next steps. It will also ensure material updates are provided to investors on a timely basis&rdquo . 
Singtel&rsquo s share price closed at $2.37 on Dec 17, up 2.6% this year. In 1HFY2021, for the six months to Sept 30, Singtel reported revenue of $7.65 billion, up 3.3% y-o-y, and net profit more than doubled to $954 million. Optus recorded a 3.5% y-o-y decline in revenue to A$3.9 billion, while Ebit more than doubled to A$145 million.
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