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St.Maximus Supreme	02-Nov-2020 12:01        St.Maximus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	Exactly! Even if they issued twice the number of shares to get the required funding, the share price would have fallen further.
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danger Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:51        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	temasek cannot price the rights too low too cheap .. else how to get that $1.5 billion funding they need ? it was already a massive discount off the trading price of 85 cents then St.Maximus      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:49) Posted: Think what you like but this would mean TH is some opportunist and not the ' nursing' mother of SMM. weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:44) Posted: They initially had no desire to privatise SMM. Just like their withdrawal from their offer to increase their stake in KC, they could based on subequent corporate and stock price movements, changed their mind and would now be considering a privatisation of SCM. It would be neater for them to privatise SCM and then merge it with KOM , especially when they can now get it for peanuts
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St.Maximus Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:49        St.Maximus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Think what you like but this would mean TH is some opportunist and not the ' nursing' mother of SMM. weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:44) Posted: They initially had no desire to privatise SMM. Just like their withdrawal from their offer to increase their stake in KC, they could based on subequent corporate and stock price movements, changed their mind and would now be considering a privatisation of SCM. It would be neater for them to privatise SCM and then merge it with KOM , especially when they can now get it for peanuts, St.Maximus      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:38) Posted: If TH wanted SMM cheaper, they could jolly well have set the rights price at 10 cents. Why din they do that
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ADS2200 Veteran	02-Nov-2020 11:47        ADS2200 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	alwayshopeful said " why they want the share price to fall?" after the demerger till today, almost 2 months scm investor relation did not bring confidence to investors.  cannot blame many who cite that temasek is involved or engineered the price to drop to this level. whoever in charge need to be fired !!! our beloved founding father has the iron in him to do what is best for the country. the rights was well received .... 90.2% subscribe during a time like this that rock the world world.  what did they report ??? https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/sembcorp-marine-rights-issue-undersubscribed-temasek-to-mop-up-1b-shares Sembcorp Marine rights issue undersubscribed Temasek to mop up 1b shares THE Sembcorp Marine (SMM) rights issue of shares to recapitalise the company was undersubscribed, with valid acceptances and excess applications received for 9.4 billion rights shares, or 90.2 per cent of the nearly 10.5 billion rights shares available. shouldn' t it be reported that the rights was well subscribed by the shareholders during this unprecedented pandemic that rocked the whole world. temasek only left with 9.8% to mop up the remainder of the rights !!! alwayshopeful      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 09:16) Posted: Why they want the share price to fall? better      ( Date: 01-Nov-2020 19:34) Posted: You can go first for the buy one get two free burgers deal at 12 (senior first).  I plan to queue at 11.8 tomo. It has puzzled me for many weeks why anyone dare to zai  太 岁 头 上 动 土 .  as in, why anyone dare to sell down SMM right in front of Temasek' s nose when they own 42.6% of the entity It became obvious to me lately as I watched the chain of events unfold and the deafening media silence. Initially, SMM and to a lessor degree Sembcorp were sold down to jawbone minority shareholders to agree to demerger and whitewash Then, Keppel and SMM were sold down to gently persuade shareholders to accept any merger deal that is going to be tabled shortly. If the perceived value of SMM and Keppel O& M is high, shareholders' expectation will be high, like 10+years ago, and that would be a great obstacle for Temasek engineer the marriage as it is not their style to fork out to much for a deal. So the conspiracy theory is this: the manipulators who have being pushing down SMM' s and to a lessor degree Keppel' s share price has the implicit (wink wink type) permission from Temasek. Explicit permission is of course illegally.
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weekaykee Master	02-Nov-2020 11:44        weekaykee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	They initially had no desire to privatise SMM. Just like their withdrawal from their offer to increase their stake in KC, they could based on subequent corporate and stock price movements, changed their mind and would now be considering a privatisation of SCM. It would be neater for them to privatise SCM and then merge it with KOM , especially when they can now get it for peanuts, St.Maximus      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:38) Posted: If TH wanted SMM cheaper, they could jolly well have set the rights price at 10 cents. Why din they do that? weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:31) Posted: While TH would not inititiate it, but it might be very happy to let the SMM' s price collapse, if due to the very fluid situation, they had decided to take SMM private. I bet if they offer 20 cts when the price is 10 cts, 90% of SHs will grab the offer. And 20 cts for TH would be dirt cheap and they will laugh all the way to the bank after merging it with KOM
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St.Maximus Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:38        St.Maximus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 1  Alert Admin	If TH wanted SMM cheaper, they could jolly well have set the rights price at 10 cents. Why din they do that? weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:31) Posted: While TH would not inititiate it, but it might be very happy to let the SMM' s price collapse, if due to the very fluid situation, they had decided to take SMM private. I bet if they offer 20 cts when the price is 10 cts, 90% of SHs will grab the offer. And 20 cts for TH would be dirt cheap and they will laugh all the way to the bank after merging it with KOM. St.Maximus      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:23) Posted: It is very foolish if TH wanted to bring down the share just to do something. It does not make any business sense at all to hit your own company and then support it back. It is like getting yourself injured or in bad health deliberately in order to nurse yourself back to health. That is absolutely ridiculous
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weekaykee Master	02-Nov-2020 11:31        weekaykee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	While TH would not inititiate it, but it might be very happy to let the SMM' s price collapse, if due to the very fluid situation, they had decided to take SMM private. I bet if they offer 20 cts when the price is 10 cts, 90% of SHs will grab the offer. And 20 cts for TH would be dirt cheap and they will laugh all the way to the bank after merging it with KOM. St.Maximus      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:23) Posted: It is very foolish if TH wanted to bring down the share just to do something. It does not make any business sense at all to hit your own company and then support it back. It is like getting yourself injured or in bad health deliberately in order to nurse yourself back to health. That is absolutely ridiculous! ckmpd1      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:17) Posted: A stock is not valued on its present situation alone.  I am one of the investors who look forward to a stock' s future value.  Unlike you, I dont think SCM is hopeless.  On the contrary, I see the present low value of SCM as an opporunity for TH to do something for SC
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danger Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:29        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	so your avg holding price is 17c or higher ? weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:27) Posted: Majority of it are free shares courtesy of SCI and bought some after ex-rights. danger      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:24) Posted: you are fierce .. write off 451 lots or 451,000 shares ??!! like that you lose how much seah
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weekaykee Master	02-Nov-2020 11:27        weekaykee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Majority of it are free shares courtesy of SCI and bought some after ex-rights. danger      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:24) Posted: you are fierce .. write off 451 lots or 451,000 shares ??!! like that you lose how much seah ? weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:22) Posted: I have got 451 lots but i will still wait. Will write it off if necessary but willing to take the gamble as i do not think TH will allow it go bankrupt without trying to do something
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naoshingo Elite	02-Nov-2020 11:27        naoshingo About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Support together!  ckmpd1      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:26) Posted: Maybe follish to some but not to others.  Let us wait and see who has the last laugh St.Maximus      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:23) Posted: It is very foolish if TH wanted to bring down the share just to do something. It does not make any business sense at all to hit your own company and then support it back. It is like getting yourself injured or in bad health deliberately in order to nurse yourself back to health. That is absolutely ridiculous
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ckmpd1 Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:26        ckmpd1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Maybe follish to some but not to others.  Let us wait and see who has the last laugh St.Maximus      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:23) Posted: It is very foolish if TH wanted to bring down the share just to do something. It does not make any business sense at all to hit your own company and then support it back. It is like getting yourself injured or in bad health deliberately in order to nurse yourself back to health. That is absolutely ridiculous! ckmpd1      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:17) Posted: A stock is not valued on its present situation alone.  I am one of the investors who look forward to a stock' s future value.  Unlike you, I dont think SCM is hopeless.  On the contrary, I see the present low value of SCM as an opporunity for TH to do something for SC
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weekaykee Master	02-Nov-2020 11:25        weekaykee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 1   x 0  Alert Admin	KC started their 100 days review from early Oct. So should be around 70 more days to go. But then again, i am very sure KOM' s fate was decided way before the start of the 100 days review. KC would be in advanced stage of discussions with the buyer. naoshingo      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:04) Posted: Really lousy..... I also feel bad.... But I am still hopeful given TH is backing it... If there is a rebound, better be at least 30c  96 days..... DYODD
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Octavia Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:24        Octavia About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Flexible   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Why newspapers all tiam tiam about this? weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:22) Posted: I have got 451 lots but i will still wait. Will write it off if necessary but willing to take the gamble as i do not think TH will allow it go bankrupt without trying to do something. danger      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:18) Posted: i got about 65 lots now altogether with SCM free shares .. I KPKB now  Temasek holding how many billions of SCM  ... those jokers lose until blur
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danger Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:24        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	you are fierce .. write off 451 lots or 451,000 shares ??!! like that you lose how much seah ? weekaykee      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:22) Posted: I have got 451 lots but i will still wait. Will write it off if necessary but willing to take the gamble as i do not think TH will allow it go bankrupt without trying to do something. danger      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:18) Posted: i got about 65 lots now altogether with SCM free shares .. I KPKB now  Temasek holding how many billions of SCM  ... those jokers lose until blur
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St.Maximus Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:23        St.Maximus About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	It is very foolish if TH wanted to bring down the share just to do something. It does not make any business sense at all to hit your own company and then support it back. It is like getting yourself injured or in bad health deliberately in order to nurse yourself back to health. That is absolutely ridiculous! ckmpd1      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:17) Posted: A stock is not valued on its present situation alone.  I am one of the investors who look forward to a stock' s future value.  Unlike you, I dont think SCM is hopeless.  On the contrary, I see the present low value of SCM as an opporunity for TH to do something for SCM Maller      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:11) Posted: Anyone write to smm? Can share? Dyodd
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weekaykee Master	02-Nov-2020 11:22        weekaykee About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	I have got 451 lots but i will still wait. Will write it off if necessary but willing to take the gamble as i do not think TH will allow it go bankrupt without trying to do something. danger      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:18) Posted: i got about 65 lots now altogether with SCM free shares .. I KPKB now  Temasek holding how many billions of SCM  ... those jokers lose until blur
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danger Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:18        danger About Contact  Quote this Post! Style: Combined   Mood:
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	i got about 65 lots now altogether with SCM free shares .. I KPKB now  Temasek holding how many billions of SCM  ... those jokers lose until blur
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ckmpd1 Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:17        ckmpd1 About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	A stock is not valued on its present situation alone.  I am one of the investors who look forward to a stock' s future value.  Unlike you, I dont think SCM is hopeless.  On the contrary, I see the present low value of SCM as an opporunity for TH to do something for SCM Maller      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:11) Posted: Anyone write to smm? Can share? Dyodd
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easywin Supreme	02-Nov-2020 11:16        easywin About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	TM iwith big capital is ok, retailers are using CPF hard earned money cannot affordable to loss  Trader1987      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 11:00) Posted: Your point is TM suffer loss so it is okay for retailers to suffer loss also? easywin      ( Date: 02-Nov-2020 10:56) Posted: Not only retailers lose Temasek also suffered deeper loss
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Maller Elite	02-Nov-2020 11:11        Maller About Contact  Quote this Post!
x 0   x 0  Alert Admin	Anyone write to smm? Can share? Dyodd
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